And holy shit Mike Taylor is OTM -- "Jazz Is the Teacher" (which I'd never heard) is phenomenal!
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 21 July 2005 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Not to steer off course, but what is the deal with Tresor lately? My local record store just dropped #s 215 and 216 (both Atkins), but otherwise I haven't seen ANYTHING in at least a year....
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 21 July 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 21 July 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― moley, Thursday, 21 July 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Now the dust has settled on the first wave of that Detroit techno thing, it's his music that shines the most. The only one to avoid is 'Mind and Body', perhaps. It's not bad, it's just a little safe and smooth. It has its moments.
I think Deep Space and the 12" The Passage (which sounds a little like John Foxx circa The Garden in the strings) are my favourites. As for Clear, that track is a masterstroke that has not aged one bit, as Missy obviously knows.
Incidentally, Erik Davis is still at large as Cybertron, so it seems.
He spun "Clear" and the "Lose Control" instrumental back-to-back at P.S. 1 on Saturday.
― Rich (Rich), Friday, 22 July 2005 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 22 July 2005 07:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― W i l l (common_person), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link
http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2005/07/play_it_schizo.html
I know that in addition to the tracks I name, his set included some techno classics. But that isn't my field of expertise so I don't have any names.
― Rich (Rich), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Also his 3 (re)mixes of Low Res' Amuck (Sublime#12). Sort of Infiniti-mässig, nicht wahr? Esp. the 1st.
― blunt (blunt), Monday, 29 May 2006 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Okay "The Flow (G-Funk Mix)" is canyon-deep.
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 26 May 2007 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link
love for jazz is the teacher, and future, most of all
vessels in distress is kinda drexciya meets depeche mode!
― 696, Saturday, 26 May 2007 10:02 (seventeen years ago) link
I really like Skynet too, it's a great cohesive hour.
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 26 May 2007 10:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Looking forward to seeing M500 live tomorrow night at the DEMF. I expect nothing but surprises...
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Saturday, 26 May 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Still indignant about the dude maligning Skynet at the top of this thread.
"Never Tempt Me" has such great vocals, the album's tootling along nicely and then you get this near-fuzz bassline and drawly voice and everything steps up to another level.
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link
see there were 'Game One' remixes last year. any good?
i also love 'Rebound' and 'Idea 1' from the 'Futurepast EP' - these MUST be older than 2004 tho ('I-94' is on this as well so all from the same time - all v playful sounding).
22. Juan Atkins - Other side of life had never heard this until i got this CD - so great + his Inner City moment
― blueski, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Model 500's "The Chase" sounds like something I would want to hear in a tropical coast level of a Sega CD era racing game.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 20 March 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
haha yeah totally, it reminds me of the out-run soundtrack, something about that midi guitar line
― r1o natsume, Thursday, 20 March 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/release/19657
― Display Name, Thursday, 20 March 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
haha yeah totally, it reminds me of the out-run soundtrack, something about that midi guitar line-- r1o natsume, Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
-- r1o natsume, Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
Strangely I was reading an interview with a Sega music guy before I listened to this and it just seemed right.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 20 March 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
R&S are reissuing Model 500's Classics along with a few other albums on CD (Aphex Twin's SAW1, Ken Ishii's Jelly Tones). Beatport are advertising Deep Space as part of the series, but I don't know if that's coming out physically or if it's download-only.
― Telephone thing, Thursday, 20 March 2008 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link
TAKING SIDES TAKING SIDES TAKING SIDES
INFINITI
vs
MODEL 500
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link
M500
― Display Name, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link
game one vs cosmic courier
― elan, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 06:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i might vote for infiniti ... do we need track by track breakdown?
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Everyone (except Vahid Mk I) OTM about Deep Space - esp. Mike when he says "I think he managed to nail the "Detroit techno as future jazz" tag on several cuts with this album."
Also I agree with this:
"Now the dust has settled on the first wave of that Detroit techno thing, it's his music that shines the most."
― Tim F, Monday, 30 June 2008 09:52 (fifteen years ago) link
it took a
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 30 June 2008 10:11 (fifteen years ago) link
enigmatic!
― Tim F, Monday, 30 June 2008 10:13 (fifteen years ago) link
oops
it took a while for "deep space" to click with me but it finally did.
still, i really do still think that his "infiniti" work is better than his "model 500" work. there are great model 500 tracks like "starlight" and "i wanna be there" but "game one" lords over them all and i think the infiniti albums are really amazing when taken as whole works, much more so than "mind and body" and with an edge over "deep space".
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 30 June 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link
i should proofread my posts for redundancy
Vahid you didn't respond to my Quentin Harris questions on the Dennis Ferrer thread :-(
― Tim F, Monday, 30 June 2008 10:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I agree with vahid re Infiniti>Model 500, to the extent that when i saw M500 live a few weeks back the enjoyment was stifled by this colossal urge to want to hear 'game one', 'i-94', 'skyway' and 'rebound' alongside 'cosmic cars' etc.
― blueski, Monday, 30 June 2008 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Track down the remix of Annette's Dream 17 and you might change your mind about Derrick. Juan and Derrick are about equal in the 80's. The 90's are a different story...
― Display Name, Monday, 30 June 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone going to see him tonight?
― the table is the table, Friday, 1 August 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
torn knee ligament here :(
― blunt, Friday, 1 August 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
how was juan atkins last night ?
― oscar, Saturday, 2 August 2008 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
pretty good-- he played a lot more proto-house and house than i expected, but also did some major detroit damage too. well worth it!
― the table is the table, Sunday, 3 August 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
he was great! i missed the beginning of his set, but he finished with some disco classics; karen young "hot shot," young & company "i like what youre doing to me," etc. there's a review on this blog: http://bananaspam.blogspot.com/2008/08/juan-atkins-at-bodyheat-part-two.html
― one time, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
What about remixes? I have this vague recollection of Dan Sicko talking about something that JA remixed on a small Detroit label around a decade ago that was supposed to be amazing.
― Shh! It's NOT Me!, Friday, 5 December 2008 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link
TAKING SIDES
I actually like Infiniti and cybotron stuff better than M500 overall
― X-101, Friday, 5 December 2008 09:52 (fifteen years ago) link
don't force me to choose! it will hurt. how about a top 5 tracks instead?1. Cybotron "Enter"2. Model 500 "Starlight"3. Model 500 "Night Drive"4. Infiniti "Game One'5. Model 600 "Update"
yeah it is a canonical list but the canon is a canon for a reason. also i haven't heard skynet net, i just have the single.
― Shh! It's NOT Me!, Friday, 5 December 2008 10:01 (fifteen years ago) link
To understand the marvel that is Deep Space, you need to suck deep on the Devil's weed.
― moley, Friday, 5 December 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
"starlight" remixes on echospace ... gilding the lily, or what?
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 8 December 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Mike Huckaby's S Y N T H Mix
^^ ps everyone is creaming themselves whenever they see this after a track name but imo this new huckaby direction is not that great
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 8 December 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
some of that stuff just sounds like it's sufficiently sophisticated "intelligent" dub techno/house that would be shopping mall music except that it's too depressing.
― Coal Scuttle Now Meaningless, Monday, 8 December 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
your comment is trite and lazy
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 8 December 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
perhaps you think so. just because something is ultra well produced and lush and coming from a very respected stable/part of the world does not make entertaining, that's my point. there's very little to get excited about and a lot of it is completely useless music for djing with. where is the rhythm?
what was your reason for dislike?
― Coal Scuttle Now Meaningless, Monday, 8 December 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link
"shopping mall music" is a lazy thing to say. but "completely useless for dj'ing" is, i guess, at least arguable
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
"the field recordings are definitely a nice touch and it's true that mastery of gear (even software gear) is admirable, but i think sometimes that these discussions come down to whether the songs are good or not regardless of the blood sweat and tears that went into their creation."
i'm not going to disagree with that, the final product is always the most important thing. of course to me, most Huckaby and a pretty decent % of Deepchord stuff has a high quality final product. i still listen to Basic Channel and Rhythm and Sound much more than any of the knock offs, though that Incense & Blacklight has been getting lots of play from me this year.
"the original sebbo is a great mixing tool because of the way it builds through the chanting. it sounds even better if you play it with the moritz von oswald remix at the same time.
― tricky"
i like the moritz mix, which is really a whole other track that to my ears has nothing to do with the "original" which i listened to once when i got the record in the mail. it doesn't do it for me.
― pipecock, Monday, 15 December 2008 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah the remix is definitely the better of the two. the way it ends is like a study of how to very delicately dismember an entire track through dubbing until it dissolves into nothing. at the same time it's like this total swamp of sound. one of these days i will pick up the record.
― tricky, Monday, 15 December 2008 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link
"yeah the remix is definitely the better of the two. the way it ends is like a study of how to very delicately dismember an entire track through dubbing until it dissolves into nothing. at the same time it's like this total swamp of sound. one of these days i will pick up the record.
indeed, it really does almost completely go away. i did this really nice mix one day that i didnt record in which i was mixing out of the Watamu Beach rmx into M5, it really sounded like they belonged together with the wispyness of the end of the WBrmx floating over the deep beats of the Maurizio jam. i was pretty impressed with myself ;)
― pipecock, Monday, 15 December 2008 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link
haha that is why i record everything! i end up with lots and lots of crap, but there are always ideas worth salvaging. i was listening to this old swayzak mix today and they segued from a really early ellen allien electro track into maurizio by simply letting the allien track play out, but it was one of the best transitions in the mix. it was just yeahhhhhh..super smooth.
― tricky, Monday, 15 December 2008 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm usually too lazy to fire up the computer, plus my off the cuff mixes are usually just me forcing whatever new things i've picked up in any genre together which tends to have poor results just about 100% of the time. M5, M7, and Phylyps Trak II are just about always close by because they go so well with just about anything!
― pipecock, Monday, 15 December 2008 04:34 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T71yV387H8
How fucking spacey amazing is this?
― I'll make you bang, combinating with smang (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 January 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty fucking spacey amazing
― elan, Friday, 14 January 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Saw Model 500 live last weekend at Paradiso as part of Sonic Acts (same evening/venue as Pauline Oliveros!), and they were astonishing - one of the best gigs I've been to in ages; up there w/Kraftwerk. Had no idea it was a four-dude-at-synths affair live, and that one of said dudes was Mike Banks!
― etc, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link
picked up "deep space for pennies" largely it is STINKAH!
― iglu ferrignu, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:50 (twelve years ago) link
'Mind & Body' might be worthy of a minor re-appraisal. Amidst the pooh there's a couple of decent tracks - namely It's time, Tipsy and Incredible (dated vocals not withstanding). His collab with 4hero (The Fusion Formula) is probably his best foray into d&b however.
― millmeister, Saturday, 22 December 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
He always brings some great tunes as a DJ (plus some clunkers!)
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 22 December 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link