That's not the Hardfloor track I voted for (my vote went to "Once Again Back", which still has, 21 years after it was released, the roughest, moss kick-ass bassline I've ever heard in dance music), but I'm glad it made it. They were largely responsible for reviving acid in the 90s, and as mentioned in this thread, "Acperience" also popularized the build & release technique that became quite common in 90s techno/house/trance.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
I prefer Aceperience 5, which is a bit harder and seems to have more tension in it, but that might just be because I heard it first (a friend taped it for me in early 94, I didn't hear the Acperience 1 until I bought Flux Trax about 18 months later). That whole build & release technique was done to death and sounds annoyingly formulaic now.
― all the people on the right, boogaloo (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not well versed on the history of "You Got the Love", but AFAIK it was originally a disco/boogie tune released in 1986, then some British guy used an acappella of it and remixed with Jamie Principle's "Your Love", which was first released as a bootleg 1989, then officially released in 1991. So yeah, technically it's an 1980s tune, but since this version became commercially available (and subsequently became a hit) only in 1991, it's fair to include it on the 1990s list.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe one or two ILXors heard the remix in 1989, but I assume for the most of us it's firmly a 90s tune.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
this edit of it with the beat from "She's a Bitch" has been ruling my world of late
https://soundcloud.com/totalfreedom/slice-4-minimal-complaint-also
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link
82. Origin Unknown - Valley of The Shadows (RAM Records, 1993)341 points, 5 votes
http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/valleyoftheshadows.jpg
http://youtu.be/a5meT63flnM
Can't find any good comment on it on ILX, but this is generally considered to be the first "darkcore" track, right? Or are there earlier examples? Also, it's one of the two tracks in the top 100 to inspire a book title.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link
Hardfloor disappointingly low. I was one of the #1 votes. The quintessential 90s dance record for me - a track that established a new template and did it so well that countless imitators couldn't improve on it. I never get bored of it.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link
The other mix with a hardcore break and gospel pianos is also amazing.
link (or mix name)?
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7dMGw3uzEU
Sorry to clutter the thread, but I don't know how to do non-imbed YTs.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link
Continuing the thought, dance tracks like Acperience and Horsepower (which I hope to see later in the poll) have the same effect on me as, say, I Wanna Be Your Dog - nothing extraneous, nothing high-minded, just the perfect application of noise.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
"other mix with a hardcore break and gospel pianos is also amazing" - The Now Voyager mix?
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno what it's called, but I just posted it.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link
for future ref, the youtu.be shortened urls don't embed the video as far as i'm aware.
― c sharp major, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, that's why I'm posting them instead of youtube.com urls. You get the youtu.be url by clicking "share".
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks!
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
81. I-f - Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass (Viewlexx, 1997)343 points, 6 votes.
http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/spaceinvaders.jpg
http://youtu.be/5Nx6QZnps_0
I-F heeft wel aangekondigd te stoppen met electro en iets heel nieuws te gaan doen. Hij is waarschijnlijk toch wel binnen omdat op elke electro verzamelaar verplicht Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass schijnt te moeten staan.Ik ben trouwens ook erg benieuwd wat Felix Da Houscat samen met Marilyn Manson aan het brouwen is.
― Martijn ter Haar (wmterhaar), 4. syyskuuta 2002 13:59
Unofficial (as if!) leader of the "The Hague Underground" is I-f, well known for his Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass hit. I think it's all a bit ridiculous.
― JoB (JoB), 4. syyskuuta 2002 13:05
at least in NYC, Electroclash was a very specifically branded thing which attracted dozens and dozens and dozens of bands that came from diverse backgrounds but shared certain things...bad drum machine programming, weak preset synth sounds, assymetrical haircuts, new wave aesthethics etc. Failed ex-techno producers were adding guitars and singers and failed ex-rock bands were adding drum machines and synthesizers. They came from Austin and Chicago and San Francisco other distant locales, though some probably stayed in San Francisco. I can name an absurd amount of these bands but most never got as far as releasing a record beyond a 4 song cd-r demo.
There was the superficial and aesthethic influence coming from "electro" as in the electro-funk revival started in Detroit, Germany and England around 95, but it was more influenced by the electro into italo revival epitomized by I-F's Space Invaders are Smoking Grass in the late 80s and his Mixed Up at the Hague mix from 2000.
Sorry, what I'm trying to get at is electroclash as a distinctly seperate thing from the electro revival, perhaps.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), 11. toukokuuta 2004 21:55
I love Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), 10. syyskuuta 2012 15:00
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
Oo, new to me. I like that.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
Nice choice. Again, probably would've maybe been on my ballot.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
80. The Artful Dodger presents Craig David - Re-Rewind (The Crowd Say Bo Selecta) (Sony Music Entertainment, 1999)347 points, 8 votes.
http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/rerewind.jpg
http://youtu.be/vEtWdI9FByA
This one goes out to all the dee-hee-jays: Artful Dodger singles poll
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
Hopefully Movin Too Fast will make it as well, it's way better IMO.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass is all time. Electroclash about 5 years before the fact too.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
Again, lots of great stuff here!
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
I-F unfairly still gets a bit of flack from some people about the electroclash connection.
Enjoying most of this rundown so far, naming no names.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
This brought to mind..
Well, the introdutory post on this thread:
I can feel Excelsior in the air tonight, oh lord, and I've been LOL all my life, etcetcetrc
Roy North: Rewind, and select when the crowd say bo.Basil Brush: Reeeeewindddd, and when the crowd say bo, Sellleeeeccter, ah ha HA HA HA!!!― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 October 2004 08:42 (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― Mark G, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
I know Space Invaders was cited as a proto-electroclash tune but it feels like a brilliant anomaly to me. It has none of the tropes that I associate with electroclash in its 2001/2002 incarnation.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
ha, I'd never heard it before and within 10-15 seconds of hitting play I was like "electroclash!"
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
a friend and part-time lurker just texted me to say he'd heard 'acperience 1' for the first time because of this thread and just sat there in his house bopping, enthralled for it's duration. i was jealous. he's listening to them all and next up was the SAWii track which put a downer on him so he stuck hardfloor on again straight after.
― So: The Answers (or something), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
Can I get a 'TOO LOW' for Valley Of The Shadows?
(Not disputing that these results are ace so far though).
― Ain't Too Proud To Neg (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
but this is generally considered to be the first "darkcore" track, right? Or are there earlier examples?There were def earlier darkcore tunes, but I get the impression that VOTS was one of the tunes where the distance from earlier breakbeat hardcore became really marked - like there's no rave stabs or anything, just bass/beats/sample, so you're already most of the way towards what would become jungle/dnb.
― Ain't Too Proud To Neg (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
Much love for "Space Invaders" and much love for all the 80s tracks I'd never have heard if not for Mixed Up In The Hague.
What other people did after that isn't I-F's fault - which isn't to knock electroclash, cz ten years after rolling my eyes at it but still buying it I've come round to admitting that I do actually like most of it, or most of what I've bothered remembering
I know Space Invaders was cited as a proto-electroclash tune but it feels like a brilliant anomaly to me
There's a funny thing about wikipedia's reference for Space Invaders being cited as proto-electroclash... (uh, sorry if this crosses a line!)
― a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
There were other electro revivalists than I-f in the mid-to-late-90s too... Some of the Cologne posse, like Kerosene and Khan and Jammin' Unit, were doing similar electro-with-90s-sensibilities stuff around the same time, and didn't the Global Communication guys release an electro album too (never really listened to that one)? To me the 90s electro revival felt like an unique thing of its own, not a precursor to electroclash or whatever. (For example, those guys didn't really use the sort of 80s new wave vocals and sounds later artists did, because they were grounded in house/techno, not in pop/rock.) Though by the early 00s I wasn't paying that much attention to the dance scene anymore, so maybe there was some lineage I missed.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
To me, the 90s record that really sounds like a precursor to electroclash is DJ Hell's Munich Machine from 1998, especially this tune on it:
http://youtu.be/bNXuOae_f80
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
This feels too UK-centric so far.
Almost everything I voted for was from the UK, almost no knowledge of things from overseas apart from bits like DJ Shadow. Digesting this poll over the holidays will hopefully fill some gaps.
― Mercer Finn, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
79. Nightcrawlers - Push the Feeling On (The Dub of Doom) (4th and Broadway, 1992)348 points, 8 votes.
(Whoever nominated this didn't specify which mix they meant, but I assume people voted for the "Dub of Doom" mix rather than the original version, as the remix was the one that became a hit.)
http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/pushthefeelingon.jpeg
http://youtu.be/rSzpOUwiLkc
Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On has to be some kinda high watermark of the 90s, right?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link
Also, what the fuck is up with that single cover? I don't think either the original or the remix have any of the instruments portrayed there. It looks like a Bon Jovi cover!
― Tuomas, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
Everything about this is horrible.
― millmeister, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
ugh, there are scores of mk remixes and dubs that don't set your teeth on edge, why this?
― So: The Answers (or something), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
Praying it's another one of Tuomas' practical jokes...
― millmeister, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
ha ha, great cover
amazing find on the live-on-MTV Acperience, ta Tuomas
ta also chap - I've heard the Now Voyager mix before, but didn't associate with yr breathless descrip. still it's not like there's a *bad* version of You Got The Love
would get touched up in the dark to Rev's bitch edit btw
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, 14 December 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
This track was massive at the time, seemed to be played all over the place and rereleased endless times, so I'm not surprised it places on an ILM poll.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 14 December 2012 08:11 (eleven years ago) link
It would have been higher had i not apparently forgotten to vote for it.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 14 December 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link
The new version doing the rounds this year is genuinely horrible though.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 14 December 2012 08:44 (eleven years ago) link
78. 69 - Desire (Planet E, 1994)350 point, 6 votes, one 1st place vote.
http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/desire_zps1b625449.jpg
http://youtu.be/tGDOyKPjK1s
Desire is so distressed as to threaten an emotional response (to techno!)
― gaz (gaz), 23. helmikuuta 2003 11:15
the 69 stuff is awsome. No one so far has mentioned desire off that sound of music album. Very cool stuff, emotional and machiney.
― hector (hector), 21. maaliskuuta 2004 5:49
With Craig you can start any place really. Although that 69 - Sound of Music compilation has a nice mix of emo-tracks a la 'Desire' and bangers like 'Jam The Box'.
― Omar (Omar), 27. syyskuuta 2004 22:18
― Tuomas, Friday, 14 December 2012 09:16 (eleven years ago) link
who was gaz anyway?
― So: The Answers (or something), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:25 (eleven years ago) link
Gaz was a regular ILM poster, might still post under some other name?
― Tuomas, Friday, 14 December 2012 09:27 (eleven years ago) link
just wtfing at his comment tbh. i love this obv and i voted for it. so ostentatiously melancholy. it would just about crack my carl craig top 20.
― So: The Answers (or something), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:28 (eleven years ago) link
Re: Nightcrawlers, Weren't they mates (or something) of Stiltskin, who did "Inside" ?
― Mark G, Friday, 14 December 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link
Push The Feeling On had a bit of a revival a couple of years ago, I remember hearing it out at lot, it fits in with a lot of contemporary stuff really well.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link
no doubt. i just vaguely remember them being on top of the pops and that guy miming it and it being awful. it's probably unfair. i do prefer lots of other mk dubs tho.
― So: The Answers (or something), Friday, 14 December 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
MK had a big resurgence about 2 years back, people like Maya Jane Coles making pastiche’s of the sound.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 14 December 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
The singer is horrible. The video actively puts me off a record that I like.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link