50 great things about Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk"

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That's a nice essay, I reckon it gets somewhere near the heart of things.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 8 December 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

version of Over and Over on the Mac's AMAZING 1980 live album contains my favourite Buckingham guitar solo of all time

That symptom is fucking my wife (stevie), Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDql-ykPZ-8

That symptom is fucking my wife (stevie), Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

gorgeous version; thank you stevie.

collardio gelatinous, Sunday, 9 December 2012 07:34 (thirteen years ago)

I see there's a big box set version of "Rumours" coming out in the new year, 4 cds, dvd and vinyl - the cds are the album, the 2004 extras disc, another disc of out-takes and a live show, the dvd is the Rosebud documentary (sorry, no idea what that is but the report I read said it was "legendary"). Wonder if they'll do a similar box for "Tusk"?

Rob M Revisited, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vrNtkC6rU0

Rosebud contains this incredible outdoor afternoon performance. If there's any more footage from this show I may die of joy. A tracklisting I've seen suggests it goes: World Turning, Rhiannon, Say You Love Me, Go Your Own Way, You Make Loving Fun, I'm So Afraid; but whether the other five are performances I do not know.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

I'm fairly sure Rhiannon will be, actually - iirc I've seen a couple of seconds of Stevie singing it outdoors, maybe on Behind The Music.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

the echo on stevie's vocals on the line: "I think I had met my match"

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

the double tracked drums on sara

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Nicks wailing, "ALL I EVER WANTED! WHOAAAAAH" over the outro

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

everything about that song basically

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

the echo on stevie's vocals on the line: "I think I had met my match"

Holy shit yes.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

when she sings "she was singing" and Christine's voice rises ecstatically AHHHHHHUHHHHAAAHHHHHHUHHHH

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

lay-saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaces

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

the laces undoing the laces

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

revived this because i listened to the expanded tusk today -- re: sara, i almost wish that alternate take wasn't there (tho i like hearing it i guess) just because the released version is ridiculously perfect, just an amazing song/production/vocal/performance/everything.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:53 (thirteen years ago)

The alternate take needs to be heard just once.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:54 (thirteen years ago)

i listen to the alt take more than the album version these days, i like the extra length and hearing the ooh-ahh bits (and the cleaning lady bit)

glycemic index joe (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

^^^^2nded

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:27 (thirteen years ago)

i prefer the longer version!

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

more "sara". what's not to like?!

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

^otm

ILE Wet Treeship Night (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

do we need to have a poll? listened to both of these on headphones yesterday and there is no contest.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

GH version >>>>> original Tusk version >>>>> alternate take

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

what's the greatest hits version -- an edit?

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

i have a 7:36 from a bootleg labelled "tusk rehearsals" (nice version but terrible recording) and the original is 6:22 (Edited to 4:39 on earlier CD pressings).

yeah is GH the 4 min first CD release edit? and which alt are you talking about?

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

the ''It's all I want to do" vocal part in "you make loving fun"

jbn, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

That's Rumours, dog.

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

oh fuck sorry

jbn, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

The GH version was for a long time the only full version extant

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

how long are the GH version and the "original Tusk version"? is what you're calling "original" the 4:39 tusk first cd release?

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever listened to this album without hearing something I haven't heard before.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

But I'd like to mention an ol' favorite, the way "Save Me a Place" alludes to Brian Eno's "I'll Come Running."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

via wiki
The version of the song featured on the original vinyl release of Tusk was the unedited 6:22 version, but when Tusk was originally released as a single compact disc in 1987 it featured the edited 4:37 version of "Sara" which leaves out the middle verse and musical bridge. It was not until the 1988 Fleetwood Mac Greatest Hits compilation was released that the 6:23 version of the song became available on compact disc. Nicks is famous for hating shortened versions of her songs.

There is also a version known as "the cleaning lady" edit, so-called as Nicks is clearly heard to say at the beginning of the demo recording, "I don't want to be a cleaning lady!" This version lasts almost nine minutes and was actually released on the 2-disc remastered version Tusk in March 2004. It contains an extended vamp, which includes excised lines previously only heard in live performances, such as, "and the wind became crazy," "no sorrow for sorrow, you can have no more," and "swallow all your pride, don't you ever change—never change."

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Confession: I'm a much bigger fan of "Storms" than I am of "Sara."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

another great thing about tusk -- that this of all songs was a single
http://images.45cat.com/fleetwood-mac-its-not-that-funny-1979.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, listening to that right now!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

There is also a version known as "the cleaning lady" edit

ysi?

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

that's the one on the tusk bonus disc

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

weird that it's listed as "IT'S Not That Funny" there

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

Confession: I'm a much bigger fan of "Storms" than I am of "Sara."

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:30 AM (3 hours ago)

Me too, by a huge margin.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

I like both 'Storms' and 'Beautiful Child', but I'll always love 'Sara' more than the two of them put together.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

sara is a masterpiece, the original LP version 4 life

one if by lamp, two if by deeznuts (m bison), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

One kinda subtle trainspottery thing I noticed about "Never Forget" is that on the outro the band sings "It Will Be All Right" 5 times with 5 different melodies (or shifts of emphasis at least).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 1 September 2013 05:58 (twelve years ago)

the best timing for this thread - so many things to say

-the hypnotically simple major chord grooves on songs like honey hi and angel
-the close harmonies on angel and just the whole vocal line
-the thwomp! of The LEDGE intro
-Think About Me as the song from Rumours that wandered off got lost and showed up on the wrong record!
-everything about that's all for everyone - a brilliant song
-the easing in of the over and over intro...the pacing in general....

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 1 September 2013 06:05 (twelve years ago)

So much to love - the crisp airless drums on Beautiful Child - the fade-in on Honey Hi - newspaper snares on The Ledge - the chaos breakdown and building chants in Tusk - rubber band guitars on That's Enough For Me - ultra minimal drum breaks at the end of Brown Eyes - the endless falling chords and shimmering haze of That's All For Everyone - impeccable fuzz guitar thickening Think About Me - literally every track has a little treat tucked into it somewhere.
God, I have been living with this album since I was 9. If side 4 was the only music I could listen to for all time, I'd be OK with that.

MatthewK, Sunday, 1 September 2013 09:19 (twelve years ago)

excellent BBC doc from last year

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hxpxp

piscesx, Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:59 (twelve years ago)

man Ken Caillat is still clueless about the album.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 September 2013 14:31 (twelve years ago)

omg seeing Fleetwood Mac in antwerp in a month OMFG.

Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 1 September 2013 14:58 (twelve years ago)

The best, I suppose, way that I could answer that is to tell you of an experience that I had about a week ago in Ann Arbor, Michigan. We found this incredible health food store that had a restaurant, and I went in to pick out some things that I needed. And this girl came up to me. She was real tiny, real kind of dark hair, real straight, real plain, but real pretty, and she said, ‘You’re Stevie Nicks, aren’t you?’ And I said, ‘Yeah.’ She said, ‘Well, do you have a minute?’ I said, ‘Yes, I do.’ She said, ‘It’s very strange that you could have come here tonight because for a long time I have wanted to be able to walk up to you and tell you something. I am a graphic artist. I have no way with words. I draw and you sing, and you write and I create. To me, you are the best songwriter that I know. And I don’t know you.’ And I said, ‘But yes you do know me, because you were brave enough to come and tell me this.’ And she said, ‘I want you to know when you leave here that what you write makes me happy. It makes me sing, and I can’t sing. And it makes me laugh, and sometimes I don’t feel like laughing. But you have given me something, and I think that your writing is indeed something very special. And I know you hear it all the time—’ And I said, ‘Wait a minute. I don’t hear that all the time. And if you don’t tell me, who will tell me that?’
The only thing that I ever wanted my whole life was to be a good writer and to write something that might take away somebody’s pain for a moment. And the fact is, I was right, because people do at some point sit down and listen to I Have Always Been a Storm and say, ‘And so have I always been a storm.’
— Stevie Nicks (Jim Ladd 1979)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 7 September 2013 07:59 (twelve years ago)


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