dance / electronic music EOY 2012 picks

seriously, "Flo Jam" is about ten million Aaliyah samples too late

especially "Rock the Boat"! and it's a really poor usage of the sample to boot

'flo jam' got on my wick too at first but then in its ubiquity it grew on me somewhat. blawan was late as shit too anyway

the list is kind of a melange of best-of-year-in-the-field and what-was-generally-hot in response to mt so eh

'every day' is the dope dusky cut but interzone bubblage is wasted here

I think this is the year I finally stopped caring what was popular in London.

Except perhaps as part of a larger dance community worldwide, the Anglophilia has burned itself out.

bully for you, old chap

;-)

you DID say you read FACT though, didn't you?

In other year I would have loved the Talabot album but I have had a shit year and it is too happy for me right now.

― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:52 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is like when lex was saying it was an e'd up wonderland, idgi. all i heard was like lush ominous melancholy iirc broadly speaking

x-post Yes I do, but increasingly I just glance at it and shake my head.

i get and understand the "Flo Jam" criticism but still feel that it was a better vessel for an Aliyaah sample than most with its creeping nocturnal pitch dark feel

love even more Ramon Tapia & Sandy Huner's "Slick" featuring a screwed "Got to Give It Up" sample though i don't expect anyone to co-sign, chugging workaday tech-house is not exactly big round these parts (not that it gets much respect elsewhere either!)

have to do a bunch of genre lists for my paper and i'm totally out of my depth w/ doing a top 10 dance tracks list -- props to anyone who can point me out to an easy way to sample a lot of stuff quickly (like a spotify playlist or something), otherwise i will prob turn in a list that's all "Gangnam Style" and Skrillex

blawan was late as shit too anyway

eh, there's no way Blawan can claim firsties, but at the time "Getting Me Down" dropped, it still felt like there were many ways to do something like that and make it fresh, but that time has passed. at any rate, it helped that he had a much more distinctive rhythmic approach to support it than these house tracks we're talking about here.

oh yeah right ur a "rhythm guy" how could you let me forget for a second

could i remind you to get off my dick for a second, too?

hmm roberto rodriguez is finnish. *texts tuomas*

one cool thing about the deep house-assisted finalization of the tasteful r&b canon is that Ashanti got in too it seems

xps not to get overly into the etymology of dickriding but uh surely mine own is the only one i'm on here

X-post to Some Dude, there's a house/techno bobbins spotify list if that's the kind of thing your looking for.

I liked some Disclosure and Eats Everything. Mostly I just check out things on the UKG interzone bubbler thread. I am not one of you.

xxp what

well man how can i be on your dick if we're in disagreement

spotify:user:elishasessions:playlist:6APVLsWZdZyiHdCrkkfw3h

I don't know how to do this.

I don't think agreement is a requirement to be on someone's jock. It's more about the presumed familiarity, I'd say.

http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/timeout.gif

hmm

guess my love life just got a whole lot simpler

lol

i made a v incomplete spotify playlist w/ stuff itt i could find.

its collaborative so if ppl want to add to it please do

http://open.spotify.com/user/max_read/playlist/12RpgeiGUBoHoqFNQRFAYC

nice! will look for the one josiah referenced too.

You should be able to just copy that line into your browser. Works for Chrome at least.

eh, there's no way Blawan can claim firsties, but at the time "Getting Me Down" dropped, it still felt like there were many ways to do something like that and make it fresh, but that time has passed. at any rate, it helped that he had a much more distinctive rhythmic approach to support it than these house tracks we're talking about here.

― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 1:18 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My sense is that, for some people post-dubstep's belated discovery of R&B samples felt fresh, and for some people it was like "duh, took you long enough to work that out, it's been a thing everywhere else forver", and for the people in the first camp, by the beginning of 2012 it was like "enough already for this trick that will forever and always be associated with 2010 in my head" and for people in the second camp it was like "well objecting to this wouldn't be too different to objecting to divas or kickdrums, so..."

I think that post Dubstep mostly came to the RnB sampling by way of rediscovering its roots in 2step.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoeB82x5yrc

Of course if you were listening to 2step the whole time, like you were Tim, this must have been a painfully slow process.

no one else got love for ital tek?

such a gorgeous ear for melody on that album

My sense is that, for some people post-dubstep's belated discovery of R&B samples felt fresh, and for some people it was like "duh, took you long enough to work that out, it's been a thing everywhere else forver", and for the people in the first camp, by the beginning of 2012 it was like "enough already for this trick that will forever and always be associated with 2010 in my head" and for people in the second camp it was like "well objecting to this wouldn't be too different to objecting to divas or kickdrums, so..."

― Tim F, Monday, December 3, 2012 6:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, maybe it's just that being very invested in post-dubstep at that time, it seemed like EVERYONE in that genre was using r&b samples like that and it was cool for a while but then reached a breaking point, while in e.g. house, their use was spread out a bit more and the genre was never at any point as dependent on them, which created less of an opportunity for burnout? I still think that "Getting Me Down" had a weird sense of swing that set it apart even from other post-dubstep tho.

my eoy picks:

jackin
Brett Bdot Walters & Lorenzo - Money Cant Buy It
Linkoban - Like This (Tom Shorterz Remix)
Stikkylips & Lorenzo - Naughty Good Girl
Double Trouble & Lorenzo - Drugs
Donkie Punch - Snapbacks n Tattoos
Hannah Wants & Lorenzo - None a Them
Nick Hannam & Tom Garnett feat. Tom Zanetti - You Want Me
Burkie feat. Delilah - Go
Tom Shorterz - Morning Alkaline
Brett Bdot Walters & Lorenzo - Im in Chains
Pete Graham & Lorenzo - Man Cub
Scotty Boy & Lorenzo - No Diggity
Daft Jack & Lorenzo - Come On (Bass Bin Fix)
Hannah Wants & Lorenzo - Oochie Bang
Billy Kenny & Chris Greswell - Diamond Rings
Sleepin Is Cheatin - What a Night
Cause & Affect feat. Mr Limey - Audio Erotique
Stikkylips & Lorenzo - I Want You
Legitimate Scandal - Fugee La
Ill Phil & Lorenzo - Horny

other
Wiley feat. Ms D - Heatwave (DEVolution Remix)
Cleo Sol - Never the Right Time (DEVolution Remix)
A1 Bassline - Daft
Bryan Jones - Thinking About You
Disclosure feat. Ria Ritchie - Control
DJ Dan - Reckless Gurl
Keith & Supabeatz - The Most Beautiful (Todd Edwards Remix)
Tensnake feat. Syron - Mainline
James Silk - Can't Wait
Hot Natured feat. Ali Love - Forward Motion (MK Reverse Mix)
S.K.A.M. - I Got What You Need (Shadow Child Freakmix)
Dillon - Abrupt Clarity (Catz n Dogz Remix)
Shanay Holmes - Worth the Wait (Preditah Remix)
Tulisa - Sight of You (TS7 Remix)
Madeon - The City
Jay Shepheard - Fuzzy Border
Little Nikki - Intro Intro (DJ Q Remix)
Celsius - Must Be You
Demarkus Lewis - Came Inside
Lauer - Trainman (Tensnake Tranceman Mix)

Hot List

must investigate this lorenzo character

tx Tim!

in e.g. house, their use was spread out a bit more and the genre was never at any point as dependent on them

this is true of uk garage but not deep/non-mersh house: before 2012 it was just a here and there thing, now almost every other hip dh release has a Brandy or an Aaliyah vocal sample... as i said i don't mind it so far, but i sure as hell won't feel insatied when it's all over soon

Getting Me Down did have a weird sense of swing, its nowhere near as dependent on 2-step revivalism or Burial mimicry as a lot of that music was.

Felt new, and I think he's proven that he's not a one trick pony at this point.

what about labels like bnr trax and marble players? doesn't anybody else like that stuff?

damn this playlist rules

some bnr trax on spotify: destructo technology, baskerville priam / 3317 paris, dj pierre acid / jack da groove, maelstrom catharsis pt. 1, djedjotronic walk with me, les petits pilous drop it, bs1 rust, surtek collective shari / vary, more i think

what about labels like bnr trax and marble players? doesn't anybody else like that stuff?

i love love LOVE this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX2NsrAbYo0

Is that little melody running through "Maybe Tonight" (that comes in at around 3:20 on the Instrumental version) an intentional borrowing from Linda Rondstadt's "You're No Good"? I mean, it's not exact, but it kind of jumps out at me.

thanks to everyone who recommended that terrence dixon record, it is something

Yeah, I've meant to get around to it for a while. Not really sure to what to make of it so far.

it's definitely a dense listen, but in the right setting or with the right mindset it is p striking

Albums/EPs

Scuba - Personality
Lorn - Ask the Dust
Dimlite - Abscission
Patrice & Friends - Champagne Saunas
The Gaslamp Killer - Breakthrough
Two Fingers - Stunt Rhythms
Onra – Deep in the Night
Beaumont - Never Love Me
Matthew Dear - Beams

Tracks/Singles

Hackman - Forgotten Notes
Total Science & S.P.Y ft. Riya & DaM FunK - Piano Funk
Lenzman ft. Riya - How Did I Let You Go?
SpectraSoul ft. Terri Walker - Light in the Dark
Krystal Klear & Olivier Day Soul - Never Thought You Would Go
Marcus Visionary ft. Macka B – Never Leave
Jubei ft. Flowdan - Say Nothin
Dub Phizix ft. Fox - Never Been
Jamie Grind - A Night in Detroit
Morgan Zarate - Broken Heart Collector
Sarah Williams White - Your Silence Is Killing Me
Nosaj Thing ft. Kazu Makino – Eclipse/Blue
Addison Groove - I Go Boom (DJ Rashad Remix)
Lockah - The Sour Drink From the Ocean (Pictureplane Remix)
Harmonic 313 - Lion

all i heard was like lush ominous melancholy iirc broadly speaking

agree totally, think this discussion was had at the time about talabot. haven't played it since the week it came out, i'm finding that sound, as i hear more of it, a bit emotionally overbearing at the expense of beats or complexity.

Going back to Tim's point - it's kind of weird because dance sounds are all over the charts and commercial dance has completely eaten pop, R&B and to an extent rap. But garden variety commercial dance is kind of in a pop-that-isn't-that-popular holding pattern at the moment, and yr standard issue Rihanna or Flo Rida bangers fulfil that High Street club function in more or less the same way anyway.

ILM in general seems to acknowledge commercial dance more when the underground and the high street are closer together (as they were broadly between 1999 and 2002), and they've miles apart for the last few years. They're getting a bit closer together now, mind.

It's kinda difficult to judge though because ILM was much smaller and more dilettantish in the time period I'm talking about.