yes that's a good interview. i think i was completely wrong upthread about this record and i'm very pleased to say that.
― jed_, Friday, 30 November 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)
The Guardian guy gets some facts wrong but nonetheless conducts a pretty great interview.
I'm refusing to hear any of Bish Bosch until I can have the CD, and I gather there's a lot of gallows hilarity on this one, but this particular lyric quoted in that article sent shivers down my spine:
"Earth's hoary/fontanelle/weeps softly/for a/thumb thrust"
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 November 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
I gather there's a lot of gallows hilarity on this one
Understatement.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)
impressive lack of dropoff for album tracks (esp after SDSS14), per last.fm
1 'See You Don't Bump His Head' 1,1712 Corps De Blah 1,0623 Phrasing 9894 SDSS14+13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter) 8735 Epizootics! 8676 Dimple 7787 Tar 7568 Pilgrim 7459 The Day the "Conducator" Died (An Xmas Song) 688
― Dominique, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)
there were no moors in the fifth century
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17387-bish-bosch/
oh, but that's just a joke, right? it's almost like this review proves the other side of the argument it's trying to make about artistic and intellectual ambition
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 December 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)
i deeply dislike the 'reviewer voice' tone of that kind of music writing
― ゑ (clouds), Monday, 3 December 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)
that's one nasty 8.0 review. jesus.
― circa1916, Monday, 3 December 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)
all you need to know about that reviewer is that he thinks scott walker is the david lynch of music
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 December 2012 14:46 (thirteen years ago)
who would have thought Pitchfork would have written an awful review of this, reallythis doesn't read like "8.0" at all
― frogbs, Monday, 3 December 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)
is 69 middle-aged in pitchfork-land? does that website even have any editors?
mr. pitchfork's thoughts on scott walker and the avant-garde remind me of a tea partier talking about barack obama and socialism
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 December 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)
He's essentially going for an Emperor's New Clothes approach here, but makes a really bad case for it. There is hyperbole surrounding Walker and this release, true, and often he gets pedestalised as this purely original, utterly unique musician with a single vision and blahblah... But I don't think even his greatest fans would argue he doesn't have a huge number of influences guiding him, from Brel to Sibelius to, well, I bet the guy listens to hip-hop - all the old troll-codgers do. So this "don't be fooled by this faux avant garde bollocks" stance doesn't hold water because while he might not comfortably fit into that category, there's no one on the current "pop" landscape using these influences and taking these risks.
I can imagine the 8.0 marking was an editorial decision.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:00 (thirteen years ago)
lol haven't read the review yet but powell's one of the great regular pitchfork dudes, guy navigates complicated reactions to things better than almost anyone i can think of on staff right now (tim would be the other that comes immediately to mind). his review of the philip glass remix thing is one of the best i've read recently
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)
if that's the best pitchfork can do these days, oh boy
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)
Why has the Graun reviewed this twice?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 07:29 (thirteen years ago)
Petridis' is the Guardian review, Kitty Empire's is the Observer one.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 08:50 (thirteen years ago)
When I was up in Scotland I noticed this got reviewed (fairly positively too) in the Daily Record, that's the Scottish equivalent of the Mirror - that 60s crooner fame is awfully persistent.
― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)
OK wait this is actually in US stores today? I thought US would lag a couple of weeks behind UK?
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)
haven't listened to this yet because i had to pick between this and kesha and picked kesha
― markers, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)
psst psst
goddammit so tempted to go to other music on my lunch break but that's a long-ass lunch break.
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)
i will go to reckless as soon as i'm not broke as fuck
― ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
if anyone has mog, it's streaming on there in full.
― les rallizes miserables (get bent), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)
Can't bear to stream this one. Need full spectrum for my boy Scott.
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)
Haven't really had the chance to listen to it yet but one thing i must say is that the packaging for this thing is just fucking tremendous, size limitations of the CD format aside. If you were thinking of skipping the physical version, DON'T DO IT!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)
I have to wait till Xmas as I've asked for the vinyl... I feel like I'm about 6 y/o with all the Christmassy excitement
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)
http://beardrock.com/reviews/scott-walker
"The centre of the album is "SDSS1416+13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter)", the closest that the album gets to traditional coherence and also it's most difficult piece - a twenty minute musical story about a time-travelling dwarf, born in the fifth century, who eventually becomes a dwarf star (the SDSS1416+13B of the title) and dies. Yep."
― Flam REST, flam REST, flam REST. (zero of the signified), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 01:12 (thirteen years ago)
Stopped at Earwax on the way home. They sold out of the CD.
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 01:21 (thirteen years ago)
SFJ piece in this week's New Yorker. Just snuck a read of the first page in the bathroom at work. He tells SFJ that he generally composes (after creating the lyrics) at a keyboard which translates what he's playing into score. Don't think I'd heard that before.
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)
... he says the same in the Wire interview. I'm not convinced by this album tbf.
― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)
... I mean tbh
― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)
http://thequietus.com/articles/10908-scott-walker-interview
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)
Not sure where I saw this said, thought it was this thread but Ctrl-F is turning up naught, but: Lulu > Bish Bosch. And that's coming from someone that loved the previous two.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)
brandon soderberg said that
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours"
― Mark G, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:55 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks, that's where I saw it. (xpost)
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)
Scott's film picks for some online streaming thing:http://thequietus.com/articles/10918-scott-walker-curates-curzon-on-demand-film-season
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)
Had less than 10 dollars in my bank account but discovered 20 bucks credit on one of my cards last night, so hello Bish Bosch.
Just finished my first listen. This was so much greater than I dared hope. Transcendental KO. The Drift now feels like a transitional record en route to this. This may be as good as Tilt. Fuckin' A.
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)
Was seriously ready for disappointment.
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:31 (thirteen years ago)
My copy is waiting at home.
How is it doing in the midweeks? Anyone?
― Michael Jones, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)
I mean, Tilt made #27 and The Drift #51.
― Michael Jones, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)
Have we discussed the fact that on the last track ('...'conducator'...') Scott plays everything himself? Not just voice + guitar as before but a whole arrangement? Stunning track.
― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)
Here's something I'd never seen till it was mentioned in The Quietus review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q2EoduCLKYY
Was he doing someone a favor? Did they throw money at him? Did he do it for fun?
― dan selzer, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)
I don't know the story behind it but I do know that, even at the time, it seemed like a coup to get him to do it.
― Michael Jones, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)
Currently collecting the more substantial interviews (Guardian, Pfork, Quietus) into a single PDF cause I'm a fuckin' dork like that...
― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
'Wire' as well.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah that I'll be buying.
― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)
I'm loving this. Second listen today.
I'm not loving the drum sounds.
― and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)
did scott walker fart
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)
are those farts real or autotuned?
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)
this album is like the worst ever btw, like if I were to spend 10 mins making a fake scott walker album it would prob sound like this not trying to big myself up or anything btw
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)