"Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" by the Smashing Pumpkins

Smashing Pumpkins are good at the melancholy and quiet stuff. When they rawk, it sucks horribly. Whittle this album down to the quiet stuff and you have a pretty good album. Crap like Jellybelly or whatever needs to die.

you guys have interesting opinions

Polio, do you hate 'Cherub Rock'?

1979 was the only track i ever liked, and i never liked it that much. The cover convinced me I had bought some embarrassing prog, so it was filed away in a box where its stayed.

i seriously can't imagine the life of the person who only likes the quiet smashing pumpkins songs. they probably put salt in their coffee and live in a tent in a tree

Tristessa, Cherub Rock, Frail & Bedazzled > 1979 >>>> all other quiet pumpkins

I have more than a lot of time for the quieter Smashing Pumpkins songs - 'Thirty-Three' is one in particular I find to be absolutely gorgeous, but I could never just have the Pumpkins in quiet mode and nothing else. I fucking love 'Jellybelly', fwiw!

I like 1979, but I actually like Zero better. /shameface

Every song on this album is Classic for me (OK, except Take Me Down). Can't wait to hear all the studio ephemera on the deluxe edition. This reissue is ridiculously expensive though.

rank the singles?

1979
Zero
Tonight, Tonight
Thirty-Three
BWBW

Muzzle should've been and almost was a single. Canned when Jimmy got kicked out, 33 happened instead.

http://991.com/newGallery/Smashing-Pumpkins-Muzzle-74899.jpg

yeah "Muzzle" was a moderate radio hit, definitely wish it had been given a full radio push, some days it is my fav SP song

full single push

Bullet With Butterfly Wings is great imo. The whinier the better.

I even like 'Take Me Down'. Sorry, folks!

33 > tonight > zero > 1979 > bullet

this is also probably my ranking of the individual discs in the aeroplane flies high

'Muzzle' definitely deserved to be a single, in my humble opinion.

If the world is a vampire, the narrator in Neil Young's "Vampire Blues" must be its maker. Unless the world already was a vampire in Neil Young's song. I do not know the True Blood rules for that scenario.

tonight > 1979 > bullet > zero > 33

zero > 1979 > bullet > tonight > 33 (which is still great obv)

1979 > 33 > zero. My preferences are mathematically accurate

I can think of a handful of songs that should've been kicked off of the Mellon Collie tracklist to make room for some of the b-sides instead like Pennies or Set the Ray to Jerry.

muzzle on conan early 97 is oen of my favorite band on tv performances of all time

http://vimeo.com/45282876

AND IN THE EYES OF THE JACKAL I SAY KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-BOOM!

lol @ andy richter, melissa joan hart and james iha chillin on the couch together

compared to other horse races like "is it gonna be Mitt/The Artist? is it? it might not be! ...yep, it is" this stuff is an unpredictable thrill ride

ugh wrong thread sorry

zero > 1979 > bullet > tonight > 33 (which is still great obv)

― crüt, Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ gets it

"zero" feels so rigid and restrained compared to their other heavy songs

bullet is so much fun. i remember lovin that when i was about 14.

I love 'Zero' for its compactness.

Polio, do you hate 'Cherub Rock'?

It's okay, definitely would be on a compilation I'd make of SP, but in my view, much of SP's rawk repertoire is lazy and forgettable. There are exceptions (ironically, "Quiet" is one of them), but generally, I prefer their ponderous songs like "Mayonnaise", "33", and "1979."

^

Good SP rockers: Love, Bullet, Where Boys Fear, Tales Of A Scorched Earth... But I find a lot of the rockers on Siamese to be pretty drudgeful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggH5-vLlUQ

Fantastic Four!
Don't need no more! (that's ungrammatical)

oops wrong thread

but i do think corgan's work on the fantastic four theme song gives the lie to the idea that the uptempo SP work is somehow drudgeful

haha this is a wrong-thread magnet this morning

I'd cut out Love and replace w/ Cherry, altho that song is Corgan-admittedly underdeveloped and 'prob should've been on the album.'

13-year-old me LOVED X.Y.U.

i like the flangey effects on Love

was that song actually about Courtney Love?

smashing pumpkins tracks poll might be fun at some point, lord knows they have enough songs to make it interesting

Love, X.Y.U., Luna, Silverfuck, and Fuck You are all about Courtney Love

It amazes me how Courtney Love managed to get through so many prominent figures in "alternative rock"... I mean, you're in a successful band, you probably have chicks throwing themselves at you every night, and you choose to go with Courtney Love? Christ, I wouldn't even touch her with the cock of my worst enemy!

yeah some people just have no class huh

I remember a time in my uni days when getting hold of another couple of Pumpkins B-sides was a real thrill--some of their best stuff. Haven't listened to anything they've done from Zwan on, though.

i burned out on this album, maybe i should revisit it now. loved this record, at the time, but always felt that two disc was too much by the Smashing Pumpkins at one time.

I remember a time in my uni days when getting hold of another couple of Pumpkins B-sides was a real thrill--some of their best stuff. Haven't listened to anything they've done from Zwan on, though.

― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:17 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've listened to both Zeitgeist and Oceania in full a couple of times each when they came out, but neither of them really stuck with me and I haven't felt like listening to either album since. Bit of a shame really, because I played the hell out of each of the initial run of Pumpkins records... even MACHINA/The Machines Of God which I still feel has some great songs on it, even if it is a bit overdone.