Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

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good on ya kate!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 6 June 2003 07:40 (twenty-three years ago)

ADMIN!!! AAAAAADMIN!!!

Make them stop teasing me.

kate (kate), Friday, 6 June 2003 07:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Everyone is sooooo jealous because they are no talent assholes! Dave could out-play and out-write any of you. So why is it that you hate them?--because of jealousy!

Scott Diesel, Friday, 6 June 2003 12:32 (twenty-three years ago)

again, that hippie jig he does with his foot needs to stop.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 6 June 2003 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)

jealousy??????

um...no. i'd like his money, and that's where it ends.
i don't think i could live with myself knowing that a couple thousand date-rapes occurred to/because of my music...
ok, maybe that's a bit far fetched, but, you get the point. if i'm jealous of anything about dave's, it's his bank account. period.

onto the better fish that need fryin-
"How can a band be hated if millions buy their albums and go to their concerts? Are U2/Beatles/Bowie/Led Zep bad & hated in your parallel universe too?
As for listening only to bands on major labels, whats up with that? Being on a label is irrelevent to the actual music."


ahem,
it was stated before, no taste. that's how. the mindless asses that make up the record buying public account for 7/8 of the industry. no accounting for tastes, i suppose...
btw- the beatles...OVER-RATED.
zep- good, to a point then start backsliding.
U2- ditto. but, please, none of the mid 80's U2. damn those overly political stances...
bowie- can't slag a man that keeps contemporary. even at his worst, he's still a far cry better than most ever get. including DAVE.

for those that just skip the top of this post, here's reader's digest version...
DMB STILL BLOWS BAGS OF DICK THROUGH THE SACK.
case closed, holmes.

eded, Friday, 6 June 2003 14:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Scott are you Vin's brother? If so, thats way cool.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:34 (twenty-three years ago)

because of jealousy!

How can I be jealous of something I think is shit?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

How can I turn my face into a heart?

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

For a group of people who have a supposed love for music, how dare you put down a group of musicians for displaying their talent? Nobody ever said you have to listen to them or even like them so why all the bitching? Besides the only way you would even know about his "hippie foot jig" is if you went to a concert or watched a video; if you don't like, turn it off! You are are sitting here on a website, spending your time talking about a band you hate. In my opinion, Dave is an incredible artist and musician, backed up by a group of amazing musicians. Who are you to judge? Just because it is not your specific taste in music that in no way makes their music bad. He has his own style, which has become rare in the industry. Dave Matthews Band fans do not only listen to Hootie and the Counting Crows. I am an avid fan of DMB, but still listen to many other bands/groups. My taste in music is very diverse and does not stop at Dave. --- In a world where hate, racism and violence are everyday occurances, it is nice to know of a band who promotes the exact opposite. It's the closed minded individuals who do not recognize it. To be honest, I am glad some of you are not fans, it would ruin the whole dynamic of it all. Some of guys are so arrogant!

Danielle, Friday, 6 June 2003 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

this is going to be a long a beautiful day.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:48 (twenty-three years ago)

You said that right.

how dare you put down a group of musicians for displaying their talent?

Precisely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:52 (twenty-three years ago)

You need to stop the hatin' on Dave. DMB are a terrifially talented band who write great songs, play their instruments well , sing with passion and write about important issues. You 'music fans' here can keep your alternative rock rubbish like Nirvana , Pearl jam , Sonic Youth and Pixies and leave the genius of real music like Dave Matthews to the millions of real music fans worldwide. Thats why they've sold millions of albums and gigs sell out instantly.

Tina R, Friday, 6 June 2003 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Also why do some people keep going on about regular date rapes while listening to dave? Wheres the evidence to back this up?

Tina T, Friday, 6 June 2003 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

As a wise man once said, 50,000,000 Elvis fans can't be wrong. And I'll bet very few of those Elvis fans like DMB, hence we are just following the hive mind.

You 'music fans' here can keep your alternative rock rubbish like Nirvana , Pearl jam , Sonic Youth and Pixies and leave the genius of real music like Dave Matthews to the millions of real music fans worldwide.

That's the idea, I think.

Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:13 (twenty-three years ago)

How insecure are you people in your fandom of DMB that you have to come here and write these rants, anyway? Do you go around telling everyone you know about them?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Hippies.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

everyone knows Dave Matthews is ripping off Dewey Bunnell - write your own songs Dave!!!

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought that above post by Danielle was by "Darnielle," and read it all in a totally sarcastic tone.

NA. (Nick A.), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Coming to this website has nothing to do with insecurities in my "fandom". I am simply stating my opinion, as you are. What's up with your insecurities- needing to go to a website and ta

Danielle, Friday, 6 June 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Coming to this website has nothing to do with insecurities in my "fandom". I am simply stating my opinion, as you are. What's up with your insecurities- needing to go to a website and talk crap on a man you don't even know. The bands listed above, I like too. And no, I don't go around telling everone I know about them. Their fan base is large enough that we don't need to recruit. Oh and by the way

Danielle, Friday, 6 June 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Coming to this website has nothing to do with insecurities in my "fandom". I am simply stating my opinion, as you are. What's up with your insecurities- needing to go to a website and talk crap on a man you don't even know. The bands listed above, I like too. And no, I don't go around telling everone I know about them. Their fan base is large enough that we don't need to recruit. Oh and by the way, at least I have the balls to post my name- NA. It's Danielle, not Darnielle. I don't care what tone you read my post in, just as long as you get the point, which I doubt.

Danielle, Friday, 6 June 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)

you really hit that submit one a few times there.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)

thats because we're not Tripping Billies.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I fell asleep at a Dave Matthews Band concert in Cincinnati once. I was awakened by a group of fraternity boys drunkenly shout-chanting "SHOW YR TITS! SHOW YR TITS!". The girls obliged.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Frat Boys, beer, tits, Dave Matthews Band...its like peanut butter and jelly.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

nick you have awful taste. I mean, just what the hell were you doing at a dave matthews gig?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Do any of you actually go to college?

Danielle, Friday, 6 June 2003 16:44 (twenty-three years ago)

nick you have awful taste. I mean, just what the hell were you doing at a dave matthews gig?

falling asleep, apparently.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Frat Boys, beer, tits, Dave Matthews Band...its like peanut butter and jelly.
More like generic peanut butter and KY jelly.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)

ho ho sterling. ho ho...

''Do any of you actually go to college?''

making assumptions now are we?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)

There's the answer we're looking for. "College band"

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)

My friend Ryan bought me a ticket to that concert in exchange for me driving his not-having-a-driver's-license-at-20-years-old ass up there. Bela Fleck & the Flecktones opened up the show, they were fucking OUTSTANDING as always. I got really high when DMB came on. I kinda enjoyed their drummer's solo, and I saw tittehs.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:56 (twenty-three years ago)

But yes it's true I have awful taste. My being at a DMB concert, howevah, was unrelated to my bad taste. My owning Ani DiFranco albums is.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

from an alternative universe....
"Dafe Mettyews Bend iss Guut, Ja? Now iss the time on Schprockets vere ve Jam."
(*Deiter starts doing a watery hippie-dippy dance* while Phish plays on in the background*)

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Lord custos was that a 'college boy' joke?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 6 June 2003 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Danielle - my post about your name was not an insult, it was a reference to a regular ILX poster.

I went to a college here in Virginia, so of course, DMB was extremely popular there. This omnipresence is one of the main reasons why people hate him so much.

NA. (Nick A.), Friday, 6 June 2003 17:07 (twenty-three years ago)

No, not really. I don't know what it is. I was just channeling my inner sarcastic smartass. The thread was getting too grim and serious and required a visit by Deiter from Sprockets....but I had to alter him to fit the thread.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 6 June 2003 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

"...the genius of real music like Dave Matthews to the millions of real music fans worldwide..."

wow...
this is so fraught with idiocy, i just can't bear to tear it apart...

"genius", "real music", "music fans"
need i go on?

edde, Friday, 6 June 2003 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

"...the genius of real music like Dave Matthews to the millions of real music fans worldwide..."
I'm going to ignore the impulse to spout some sort of "Can 10 Million DMB fans be Wrong? Or right for that matter" sarcastic comment.
Instead, I will ask this:

DMB fans are "real" music fans, how, exactly?; (ie. how does this differ from a "fake" music fan? How does one know that they are a "fake" music fan? Does a "fake" music fan even exist? Wouldn't a music fan be a music fan regardless of what other people think?) And where does the DMB get off declaring the "reality status" of other people? Who died and declared them to be (God|arbiters of taste|definers of reality)?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 6 June 2003 17:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I am not making assumptions, I am just wondering why some of the people here assuming why all fans are frat boys in college drinking beer. And sterling? Come on, anything but a horse.

Danielle, Friday, 6 June 2003 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm willing to guess O.A.R. is popular among DMB fans.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 6 June 2003 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I work with a great deal of late-30s/early-40s age women who like Dave Matthews Band. I know little kids who like Dave Matthews Band. I know this one guitarist that really likes them. I know approximately 120 hippies and college kids that HATE Dave Matthews Band.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 6 June 2003 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Those are some wise hippies you know. Cultivate them and let them flourish.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I work with a great deal of late-30s/early-40s age women who like Dave Matthews Band.

Yeah, there are a couple of women in my company that like DMB because they think he is hot -- wtf??? Is he like the Sting of the new millenia?

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 6 June 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I know little kids who like Dave Matthews Band.

my day, ruined.

Aaron A., Friday, 6 June 2003 17:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't understand why everyone says that "all DMB fans are white fratboys or accountants" The band and the audience are multi-racial. The show I have attended have all been of equal amounts of male/female and white/non-white music fans. Also I know many fans who have never been to college or are accountants or lawyers. Dave Matthews Band is the best live act i have ever seen. Better than any band mentioned here.

Lynn Rembrandt, Friday, 6 June 2003 18:10 (twenty-three years ago)

And exactly how many live acts have you seen?

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 6 June 2003 18:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Dave Matthews Cover Band blow the Dave Matthews Band away. Dave lost touch with his roots, he lost the eye of the tiger. DMCB remember what it's about - THE MUSIC. It's a shame so many so-called Dave Matthews fans can't wake up to this reality. Apologists, the lot of you!

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 6 June 2003 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)

DMB's the new jazz. For serious.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 6 June 2003 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)

And exactly how many live acts have you seen?

Shh, Nicole, you're giving it away!

Lynn, Danielle, etc. -- yeah, there are plenty of cheap shots on this thread and I've delivered a few. But what it all boils down to for a lot of us is this -- we just don't find his music interesting in the slightest, and in some cases we just outright hate it. This has nothing to do with jealousy over his success or how much he sells or anything like that, and I have to say I think it's a bit sad that you're always constantly resorting to that argument, or so it seems. You should be arguing from the strength of whether or not you like the music first and foremost. My own passion for the groups I love -- My Bloody Valentine, the Walkabouts and so forth -- is just as strong as yours is for DMB, I've no doubt of it. But trying to argue that we should like DMB because of their sales or the size of their fanbase is like arguing we should all like McDonald's because they're the biggest in the business. Do you apply that line of thinking to the rest of your life? I'm guessing not.

The other thing that's strange -- and a bit amusing -- is that you're coming in here to defend DMB (not a problem there), shocked by the idea that people might disagree with you (that IS a problem), demanding in some cases that we all leave you alone with our opinions (have we been invading DMB fan boards or something? you all came here, and you didn't have to post or read anything!) and basically doing nothing to convince us of anything else other than the fact that you really really like DMB. Which is great. I don't, neither do a lot of other people here, and we don't have to change our minds because you say so. I'm not expecting to change YOUR mind with my thoughts! That would be pointless.

And if you say, "But if you just listen to the music!" Well, I have, I still remember when I got a copy of Under the Table to review almost ten years ago at the paper I was doing music reviewing for at the time. Didn't like it then, everything I've heard from him since has been to my ears anonymous, boring and dull. I'm sure everyone else here who has expressed similar opinions has had similar experiences. Choosing to write off our own encounters with his music as being nothing but close-minded jealousy or annoyance would be just the same as if we said -- in all seriousness, regardless of whatever frat-guy/lawyer jokes have been made -- that you only listen to DMB because they were successful, because they had a huge fanbase, as opposed to whether or not you actually enjoyed the music.

If you want to take the random jokes (and I'm not pretending everything here has been brilliant, certainly not from me) in all seriousness and get on your high horse about it every time, well, that's your worry and not ours. The fact that we haven't seen an ounce of humor from your end of things unfortunately just makes you all seem like you're so insistent or incredulous about others not being fans that you're almost, well, comical -- and that's why my crack about being 'insecure,' in that those who speak the loudest often seem to be hiding something.

And there you go.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)


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