So glad to see Bill Fay doing so well in a few of these lists. Not just cos it's a good album but I mean really glad for Bill, the person.
Was just going to say; that album was nowhere as good as everyone wanted it to be.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
fastnbulb: The exciting thing about "hot new genres" is that they don't sound like music you've heard before! I mean I hate to get all EPCOT WORLD OF THE FUTURE abt it, but yeah those Witchcraft and Grand Magus albums are great, but that Goat album is like beamed from an alternate reality
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Jazz1 Gareth Lockrane's Grooveyard2 Tomasso Starace3 John Turville Trio4 Phronesis5 Simcock Garland
Have heard exactly zero of these (my #1 jazz album is the Vijay Iyer one, #2 probably the Endresen/Westerhaus); anything worth checking out?
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Also I think that Van Halen album is prolly the classic rock album of the year (but I didnt hear ZZ yet)
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
did actual jazz heads rate the neneh cherry & the thing album?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
I think I've actually heard one of the songs off that Goat album (it was called Goatman I think) and yeah it was terrific.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
Goatman, and yeah that track is great.
― pandemic, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
Unless it was Goathead which is also great ;)
― pandemic, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
this one did - free jazz and vocals is a p difficult thing to pull off, but it works so well here. great alb.
also, aside from one or two dodgy production choices and a certain lyrical... openness... that you just have to accept, the Bill Fay album IS as good as people say/were hoping. Parts of it are very beautiful, imho.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
No sign in the old-man lists of my favourite old-man album this year, then: Loudon Wainwright III - Older Than My Old Man Now.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
ha i just mentioned that in this thread: POX new albums from the 21st century by old fossils
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Neneh Cherry + Thing is obv great; in my head I wasn't counting it as a jazz album but there's no real reason not to.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Unsurprisingly there's no mention of it in the Jazzwise magazine list:
http://www.jazzwisemagazine.com/news-mainmenu-139/69-2012/12580-jazz-breaking-news-courtney-pine-wins-jazzwise-album-of-the-year
TOP 20 NEW RELEASES 20121 Courtney PIne House Of Legends Destin-E2 EST 301 ACT3 John Surman Saltash Bells ECM4 Christine Tobin Sailing To Byzantium Trail Belle Records5 = John McLaughlin and 4th Dimension Now Here This Abstract Logix5 = Gregory Porter Be Good Motéma7 = Jeremy Pelt Soul Highnote7 = Robert Glasper Black Radio Blue Note9 = Branford Marsalis Four MFs Playin’ Tunes Marsalis Music9 = Django Bates Belovèd Confirmation Lost Marble11 Béla Fleck/Marcus Roberts Trio Across The Imaginary Divide Rounder12 Christian Scott Christian aTunde Adjuah Concord13 Esperanza Spalding Radio Music Society Decca14 Phronesis Walking Dark Edition15 Kurt Elling 1619 Broadway: The Brill Building Project Decca16 = Ahmad Jamal Blue Moon Jazz Village16 = Roller Trio Roller Trio F-ire18 = Simcock/Garland/Sirkis Lighthouse ACT18 = Colin Towns’ Blue Touch Paper Stand Well Back Provocateur18 = Billy Hart All Of Our Reasons ECM
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
7 = Robert Glasper Black Radio Blue Note
this is good though! i'd forgotten about it, gonna revisit
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
9 = Branford Marsalis Four MFs Playin’ Tunes Marsalis Music
awesome title
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's really good jazz/noise/soul all at once. and fits in with this recent trend of avant/leftfield pop/rock albums that make good use of brass - Love This Giant, Black Vomit, New History Warfare, Alice by Sunn O))) etc...
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
that was about Neneh Cherry btw
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
Jazz-wise, I agree with Glasper, Spalding and Roller Trio (and Neneh Cherry). Would also add:Troyka - MoxxyGet The Blessing - OC DCBrad Mehldau Trio - OdeNeil Cowley Trio - The Face of Mount MolehillPortico Quartet - Portico QuartetLund Quartet - Lund Quartet
― mike t-diva, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
i wish i knew stuff about jazz. maybe i'll give it a go in 2013.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
i'm saving it for when i'm too old to go raving
which on the evidence of last weekend is not yet
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
if only i had the opportunity to go raving more.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
Piccadilly Records
http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/shop/feature.php?feature=708
― groovypanda, Friday, 23 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Smoke Faeries I once saw play as an acoustic duo and it was amazing. Then they got a band together and went really boring.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Is TOY any good?
I didn't like the Neneh Cherry & The Thing album very much at all, but I suspect that most people who did like Neneh Cherry way more than they like The Thing. Which is weird all by itself - I mean, she was an 80s one-hit wonder. Why does she have the cult following she does?
Here are the jazz albums that will be on the eventual BurningAmbulance.com Top 50 of 2012 (which is a single blended-genre list):
JD Allen Trio, The Matador and the BullJeremy Pelt Quintet, SoulReturn To Forever, The Mothership ReturnsCharles Gayle Trio, StreetsBill McHenry, La Peur du VideMatthew Shipp Trio, Elastic AspectsFontanelle, Vitamin FWadada Leo Smith, Ten Freedom SummersBranford Marsalis Quartet, Four MFs Playin' TunesDarius Jones Quartet, Book of Mae'bul (Another Kind of Sunrise)Steve Lehman Trio, Dialectic FlourescentBlack Music Disaster, s/tRalph Bowen, Total EclipseNicolas Masson, DeparturesThe Thing with Barry Guy, Metal!Full Blast & Friends, Sketches & Ballads
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
she carried on having hits here throughout the '90s
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
xxp TOY are pretty good IMO, krauty psychy indie rock basically, so make of that what you will. Think The Horrors previous last album but one.
― Neil S, Friday, 23 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Uh oh...
And yeah, I love Buffalo Stance, but she's had much more than one hit, not to mention her role in Rip Rig and Panic. And I like this album equally for the Thing as for Neneh. The attraction is:
a: a pop/soul singer working in an interesting and unfamiliar mediumb: covers of new-wave/industrial/post-punk songsc: connection to her father's workd: it sounds fucking excellent.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
I like that White Manna album that's at #3 in the Piccadilly list a whole lot. Kinda sounds like it could have been made at any point in the last 30 years, but all the same, it's a really satisfying blast of Stooged-up psych rock.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
tbh there are so many pegs to the neneh cherry & the thing album that i'm surprised it's not showing up a lot more than it is
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
I voted for Orbital in the Mojo poll but didn't expect to see them in the Top 20. Dad-rave ftw.
Lists so far confirm that it's been a funny old year. Lots of albums that aren't quite as good as you want them to be. I mean, I love Leonard Cohen, I have every album and I rate the new one but AOTY? Really?
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
I have more Thing albums than Neneh Cherry albums fwiw.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Is it alright to ask what current discussers' likely AOTYs might be ITT?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
you prob know mine already, but my top six are pretty much set in stone by now - dawn richard / taylor swift / angel haze / farrah abraham / nicki minaj / miguel
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
the 誤訳侮辱 comments about Nenah/Thing are wrong on every possible level
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, even the label servicing it is aiming at writers who are down with Sunburned Hand of the Man and Nissenmondai and shit
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
My album of the year is Pinkish Black's debut.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 November 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
my album of the year is deeeeeeeeeeez nuuuuuuuts
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
Rev OTM! J/k
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
My album of the year is either by Penny Royale or Sontag Shogun.
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
after my testicles, Frank Ocean
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
is that a Lil Wayne line?
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
the 誤訳侮辱 comments about Nenah/Thing are wrong on every possible level...i mean, even the label servicing it is aiming at writers who are down with Sunburned Hand of the Man and Nissenmondai and shit
Oh, bullshit. It's being aimed at indie nerd boys who are all too predictably treating The Thing like Neneh Cherry's backing band. I mean, it's not that huge a leap since The Thing have covered PJ Harvey and Yeah Yeah Yeahs and White Stripes songs, and they play non-jazz venues and work with Steve Albini, all of which I have absolutely no problem with (I've agitated plenty of times for indie bands who swear they love jazz to take a jazz group on the road as an opener, for example), but if more than a half dozen of the writers fawning over the Cherry collab had even heard the group's first two albums (never mind the original Don Cherry, Joe McPhee, Frank Lowe, James Blood Ulmer etc. songs they were interpreting early on) I would be fucking shocked.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
lol xp
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
dude the current crop "indie nerd boys" discovered music with Siamese Dream, dude, no one gives a fuck about Neneh Cherry except old people. if contemporary "indie nerd boys" gave half a shit about nenah cherry then evryone wouldnt have treated MIA like she invented the fucking wheel
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, i havent read a single piece of crit about the record, but p much everyone I know who stans for it is an old dork like me
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
also, i fawned over the record and have been lovingly reviewing The Thing's records for a hot minute now
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
an old dork like me
Ha ha, I think I'm ~10 years older than you.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
It's being aimed at indie nerd boys who are all too predictably treating The Thing like Neneh Cherry's backing band.
lol @ weirdo clique records getting big on the back neneh cherry - i person who i had never heard of before - and not the jazz band whos last records were done w/otomo yoshihide and jim o'rourke
― f (Lamp), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, November 23, 2012 12:16 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha Lamp read this post and raised his hand like "that's me!"
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link