rolling regional thug thread 2012

ive said that they're aiming to make him into a snoop-style crossover success

i'm not sure it'll happen, but that's what they want to happen

and that his aesthetic range isn't really any more limited than snoop's was at the time

thats pretty much it?

what indications are there that his label is aiming for crossover, besides, like, a few guest verses from established stars (which is pretty much the baseline for every non-Waka major label debut these days)?

like don't say the size of his label advance, that's just a number people throw around to impress people and has more to do w/ whether someone got their buzz before being signed than what the sales expectations are

the fact that hes using wiz, 50, jeezy and rick ross guest verses. iirc it was the 'hate being sober' lineup that first prompted this entire convo

ppl were like, 'he should be making a flockaveli' & i was like, well, i think they're aiming bigger, thus wiz & 50 guest spots...

what's your definition of 'crossover' though? Rick Ross is not a crossover star, the only top 10 hit he's ever been on was "I'm On One"

do you think they were aiming for "snoop level" with gucci, then?

i think they were aiming for jeezy level while being very careful not to let gucci overhear them when saying that

lol

i def thought they were aiming for wayne level w/ gucci. and its what happened w/ his career that is kinda why im not interesting in making predictions lol

i'm just defining 'crossover' as, like, capable of releasing more than one 'no hands'

*interested

i'm just defining 'crossover' as, like, capable of releasing more than one 'no hands'

― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, November 12, 2012 7:54 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so...2 Chainz

i think they're hoping he'll do it without one of his hits secretly being a Drake song

Proud of my cousin who shot/edited/directed this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n7pHdweUHA

I'm proud that someone in this thread posted a YouTube that didnt embed

YA

and that his aesthetic range isn't really any more limited than snoop's was at the time

― fanute da croupier (D-40), Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:42 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just curious, by "at that time" - are you referring to a) "Doggystyle, The Chronic & Deep Cover-Snoop", b) "The Chronic & Deep Cover-Snoop" or just c) "Deep Cover-Snoop".

I can see the case for c), but really - Snoop on The Chronic is far more versatile than anything I've seen from Keef yet.
I have no problem with limited aesthetics - I just think Snoop's was always more varied, and not only because Dre's G-Funk aesthetic was more varied than Young Chop's is now. Snoop was approaching those beats in all kinds of ways,

Let me just add that I think Keef's career arc has already surpassed Noz's victimizing "By giving Keef this instant attention, we’ve all but frozen his talent in the moment. Any creative momentum or professional hunger he possessed at first will almost certainly dissolve because, in his head, he’s already made it. I’d like him to prove me wrong, but I doubt he will. Write any 16 year old a million dollar cheque and see if his motivations still lie with artistry" thing

(http://thewire.co.uk/in-writing/essays/collateral-damage_andrew-nosnitsky)

The attention has enabled songs like Love Sosa, Kobe and Hate Being Sober to become what they deserve to be, hits.

You guys are insane

http://s3.amazonaws.com/files.posterous.com/themacdoctor/dZ1iNbUBkKHTHoqcL1cyC0nxKgLt30icPYrNc4RWIavfXxy8SF8PDJCBOJLG/1_a_misery_ballbuster.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJFZAE65UYRT34AOQ&Expires=1352819813&Signature=MktgDaFgS%2B8nHBDbKWZq9Qs0oXg%3D

I care.

i dont even understand what you're arguing. two different keef songs are closer to one snoop song than they are to two different snoop songs?

i dont think there's any more musical variation between 'gin & juice' and 'whats my name' than '3hunna' and 'hate being sober' fwiw

the not-yet-released Hate Being Sober is a hit?

yeah also if 50 cent and wiz khalifa (as much as i love wiz) are on "hate being sober" fuck that...

50 makes way more sense than wiz, even as a sober rapper

i saw this video on youtube where keef and another dude spent a day w/50, was nice he seemed to be trying to mentor them, but i felt kinda bad at the same time because 50's level of money and success is kind of closed door now...50 got in just in time to be in an era where you could make major money off of actual recordings, then obviously parlayed that into a once-in-a-lifetime score on owning that chunk of vitamin water

wiz is like the eminent weed rapper in rap right now, so he's fine, but 50 is so much a shell of his former self, i don't see how he's going to contribute anything that isn't skip-worty or at best just a time waster until the hook returns

disagree

i hate everything about that post

the eminent weed pop rapper, whatever

you guys are really going to try and argue that curtis isn't washed up? please

well, sure, but i'm not about to turn around & say that i have any desire to hear wiz khalifa at all

& anyway i outlined yesterday why i'd be willing to believe that 50 would sound good on hate being sober

I can definitely live with 50 Cent being on HBS. But Wiz just feels wrong, as if they're desperate to counter 50's potential midas-in-reverse touch with someone who is "actually relevant" and will help it get on the radio.

i dunno i still like wiz, taylor allderdice is great, and aesthetic wise this is right in his wheelhouse

eminence weez

aesthetic-wise it's not in his wheelhouse at all! just cuz it's about "not being sober"?

yes! wiz is also all about the singsong flows. i'm not worried about wiz on it, is my point

ugh

but i get it, you don't think he fits in with the harder more menacing track. i get that, but i like his cabin fever stuff over the luger beats, so i think it's a non-issue

ok no more talking about any of this when we could be listening to kilo ali
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nAJjl9ZjX0

^gets it

so shyne is jewish now. i did not know that.

http://cdn.hiphopdx.org//images/news/1-3-shyne.jpg

guessing he found religion in the pen. is he out yet?

i think so, he is beefing with Game and also saying that Kendrick is not that good

he was deported to Belize

I've got tickets to see 2 Chainz on Friday. No idea what to expect, nor if this was a wise decision.

it will be fun

eddie money is singing "i've got two tickets to tity boi" in my head right now

http://www.buzzfeed.com/zentronix/kendrick-lamar-and-the-post-hip-hop-generation

curious what ppl think of this

Shyne was released and deported in 2009 and has been living in Israel most of the time since