really glad "kay kay" made this.... that song sounds incredible
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)
No skits?
― cruel silver of hope (Eazy), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)
GBE doesn't really do skits
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)
"hate being sober" is the game changer imo... "love sosa" is just a really good chief keef song
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, November 12, 2012 12:20 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
omfg "hate being sober" features 50 & wiz khalifa, i'm so sad right now
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, November 12, 2012 12:28 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao GAME CHANGER
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)
interesting that lil reese is completely absent from the 'kobe' video even tho he featured prominently in the "trailer"
― tpp, Monday, 12 November 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
if by 'interesting' you mean 'interscope booted him' u nailed it
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)
b/c of the beating video obv
the fact that i said that & literally eight minutes later got the tracklist press release is a signal that my karma is not in good order today
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, November 12, 2012 12:45 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
but reese is def jam
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
i mean they booted him from the video
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)
the video kinda sucks & in the director's defense i suspect its because he had to work with existing footage to remove dude like he was a stalin-era photograph editor
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, November 12, 2012 12:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
o
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)
50 Cent and Wiz on Hate Being Sober sounds like Don't Like (Remix) all over again.
― weak willie (longneck), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)
yayodancing compared the video on tumblr to gucci's "heavy" video which is meaningless but also pretty true
― weak willie (longneck), Monday, November 12, 2012 12:50 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark
except for the part where we have an original "i don't like" and don't ever have to listen to the remix
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)
― weak willie (longneck), Monday, November 12, 2012 11:50 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
completely disagree. kanye doing a remix --even ignoring his stupid changes to the beat-- is about asserting his aesthetic onto someone else's vision. in this case, it's a favor to both 50 and wiz that they even get to guest on the record. (especially 50, who keef doesn't really need if he has wiz, and who badly needs a look like this)
fwiw i heard the version w/ 50 on it & he kinda kills it (havent heard wiz's verse)
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)
i could imagine 50 sounding good on it because you could make the argument that keef's flow on that and "love sosa" is at least partially derived from 50's early sing-song raps, but it's still unnecessary. and wiz, jesus christ....
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)
yeah i don't need either one, i'm just saying 50 kills it, his verse is kinda crazy, he goes in
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)
Aight. I'll take your word for it. I was just hoping for the Flockaveli approach - the 50, Wiz, French and Ross features can only dilute Keef's aesthetic imo. And part of the problem with the Don't Like remix was that all these technical celebrity rappers just didn't know what to do with that beat.
― weak willie (longneck), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)
lol i really have no idea how wiz needs keef more than vice versa
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)
i didnt say he did, i was just talking about 50
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)
― weak willie (longneck), Monday, November 12, 2012 12:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this HES MAKING THE NEXT FLOCKAVELI meme should die sooner than later, he's a very different artist & it was a useful pt of comparison early on but its obvious he is musically in a completely different style, probably closer to soulja boy actually
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)
ah yeah i kinda misread 'wiz, and who badly needs a look like this'
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)
did people have lofty expectations for the Crime Mob and J-Kwon albums?
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)
"Hood Hop" crushes anything this dude's done btw
oh c'mon
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)
haha sorry i just love that song
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)
lmao
― tpp, Monday, 12 November 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)
those points of comparison make less sense than flockaveli
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)
ppl are invested in who keef is in a way they werent w/ j-kwon, who was cool & had great songs but no one knew anything about
you are certainly invested in keef being important and a big deal
― captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)
smh knew that was coming eventually
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)
are u suggesting im buying stock in him or something? im telling it like i see it, as ive always done here
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)
watching some keef stuff on youtube just reminded me of mannish teen rappers of old like j-kown and huey who looked like 5+ years older than they really were
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, November 12, 2012 1:09 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, November 12, 2012 1:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
i mean it depends on what shipley is talking about with "people" -- for keef's fanbase & rap fans in general, deej's point is totally true. j kwon was just a dude who got slid two incredibly hot beats. if "people" means critics/industry people then you have to remember that keef already put out a very good mixtape, so it's not like people are completely tripping off one or two singles at this point.
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)
deej i'm trolling to an extent but i do think calling it a "game changer" infers that rap will be different after keef...and i guess that suggests a whole lot more than what's going on here.
― captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)
ok and last time i said that was about gucci, and i was right then
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)
"i would like to point out that i have been otm in this every thread"
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)
like im not basing this on me liking a song, im basing it on the evidence. everyone from stars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45oDwJjJICo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Dt73G79S0
to smaller-scale artistshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1W5K4FPgR0
to kids just obsessed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjvGiFKASgo
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)
omg @ that soulja boy song, i can't even believe that guy sometimes
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)
it's so disorienting how his flow is nowhere near the drums. has he not figured out how to listen to the beat on headphones while recording vocals?
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)
maybe he's trying to cop lil b vibes
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)
oh that was years ago
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)
little be vibes, and little were the vibes indeed
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, November 12, 2012 6:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Oh will you relax already. Please
The Flockaveli approach: young rapper with a distinct aesthetic being allowed to make debut album (originally meant to be a mixtape, JUST LIKE FINALLY RICH), with the producer/sound/crew he came up with, without any unnecessary celebrity guests/remixes/painful attempts at crossover hits/passing of torches.
This may, in fact, be nearly what we get. But the presence of most of these Big Names makes me nervous.
When Keef starts trying to rap like Rick Ross, grunts and all, we can compare him to Soulja Boy. As for now, I'll stick with Waka.
― weak willie (longneck), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
but he doesnt sound anything like waka
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)
Of course he doesn't. That's not the point. The point is the singular aesthetic. No one (since crunk) had sounded remotely like Waka - which is also why the PT feature made sense. This is also the argument for the 50 Cent feature making some kind of sense.
If I were to make an argument for Keef sounding like Waka I would have reached for the pre-Flockaveli early feature days, before Waka got enthusiastically energetic. But I'm not making that argument, since it's not a very interesting argument to make.
― weak willie (longneck), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)
W/ Keef they're going for complete crossover star, not small potatoes rap mixtape artist.
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)
Exactly. Why no Kobe though?
― weak willie (longneck), Monday, 12 November 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, November 12, 2012 3:26 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
i'm not quite sure if this is a fair assessment also keef will be luck to have a crossover hit as big as "no hands"
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 November 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)