Silver Jews: Classic or dud

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did malkmus show up for "wild kindness" or anything?

kamerad, Sunday, 1 February 2009 04:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude from American Songwriter magazine (who posted the pic) said this on twitter: "Just saw Silver Jews' final show in a deep cave. in crowd: Dan Deacon and Animal Collective fellows, Bradford Cox, S. Malkmus, B. Bare Jr."

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 1 February 2009 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link

"uh huh, i was at the final show. the audience was amazing"

schlump, Sunday, 1 February 2009 05:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, that is weird now that I think about it. : /

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 1 February 2009 05:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i bet it was super, but they're kind of a weird band to see live i think. what you get from the records isn't at all present from hearing it live. they have that great velvetsy guitar player but it sounds kinda heavy and thick. the dynamics should be like a james brown strings song or something, with his voice big and booming.

schlump, Sunday, 1 February 2009 05:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean whatever about the crowd. i was just wondering if malkmus jammed with berman one last time. some of both their finest moments are on american water

kamerad, Sunday, 1 February 2009 05:40 (fifteen years ago) link

berman's, definitely

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 February 2009 05:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Tanglewood Numbers is actually my favorite Joos record, but I'm way in the minority there.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 1 February 2009 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link

sleep on your back
and ash in your shoe

dmr, Sunday, 1 February 2009 06:01 (fifteen years ago) link

tanglewood demos > tanglewood. less pounding and intense, more a guitar sound.

schlump, Sunday, 1 February 2009 06:06 (fifteen years ago) link

tanglewood demos

Are these easy for anyone to find?

Peter Andre Test Tube Babies (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link

first google result yields links

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:19 (fifteen years ago) link

lol indeed it does, thanks

Peter Andre Test Tube Babies (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 1 February 2009 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link

np that sounded a little snotty, not my intent, i just didnt wanna post links here ya know

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 February 2009 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Tanglewood Numbers is actually my favorite Joos record, but I'm way in the minority there.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, February 1, 2009 12:47 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

love this album - less of the sad sack aspect more reveling in absurdity - prob for the hardcore they demand the heavy depressio tho

ice cr?m, Sunday, 1 February 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh my god, I went to Rock City when I was a kid and lived in Lookout Mountain...is that where they did their final show?

iago g., Sunday, 1 February 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

interesting showdown tonight between rachel maddow and dave's dad

kamerad, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

San Francisco BC is some kind of aweseome epic

calstars, Monday, 10 October 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

Classic for Tanglewood Numbers alone. That's the record, trust me.

chromecassettes, Monday, 10 October 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

San Francisco BC is some kind of aweseome epic

Recently been admiring the rhyme scheme of "Since her dad a local barber had been beaten to death /
She had become a vocal martyr in the vegan press"

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Monday, 10 October 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

What is Berman doing these days?

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Monday, 10 October 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

http://mentholmountains.blogspot.com/

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

Pleased to see he is still active

calstars, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

"Lookout Mountain" is probably me favourite these days

Michael B, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

when i was hungover the other day i spent a long time phasing in and out to 'the natural bridge' and i went: huh! i think every song on this album mentions rain! or even: 'the rain!' but i stopped paying attention when i had to go and vomit around track six

thomp, Friday, 31 August 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Does anyone remember what magazine had that harrowing profile of DB around the time of Tanglewood Numbers, the one where he told of being holed up at the hotel where Gore conceded the 2000 election and was going to kill himself?

Iago Galdston, Friday, 2 May 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link

That was "Dying in the Al Gore Suite," by Nick Weidenfeld, in Fader 31 (Jul/Aug 2005). Part of it can be read on Google Books here.

one way street, Saturday, 3 May 2014 01:28 (ten years ago) link

Thanks, one way street

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 3 May 2014 01:35 (ten years ago) link

no problem

one way street, Saturday, 3 May 2014 01:37 (ten years ago) link

Was kind of surreal to hear Marc Maron talking about this stuff...

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Saturday, 3 May 2014 07:02 (ten years ago) link

Maron's trying to reach out to Berman via Twitter to set up an interview as he's going to Nashville in a couple weeks...doubt he'll have much luck

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 3 May 2014 12:20 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...

cool news, was hoping berman would get the itch to write songs again.

tylerw, Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link

WHAT

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link

i never realized that the 15 songs performed during the last silver jews performance in the Cumberland Caverns were apparently his very favorite songs. here's the setlist:

1) We Are Real

2) Trains Across the Sea

3) How to Rent a Room

4) Slow Education

5) K-Hole

6) What Is not but Could Be If

7) The Wild Kindness

8) Room Games

9) Suffering Jukebox

10) I'm Getting Back Into Getting Back Into You

11) Random Rules

12) Tennessee

13) We Could Be Looking for the Same Thing

14) Pretty Eyes

15) Smith & Jones Forever

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Happy enough to hear this news , but sure hope if there is a record involved it moves away from the last one's trajectory (it had very little staying power with me and kind of made me think it was a good time for him to walk away). Would love to get to chance to hear something new though, as really I just hope Berman is doing well and does whatever the hell he wants to do.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

Happy enough to hear this news , but sure hope if there is a record involved it moves away from the last one's trajectory (it had very little staying power with me and kind of made me think it was a good time for him to walk away). Would love to get to chance to hear something new though, as really I just hope Berman is doing well and does whatever the hell he wants to do.

― grandavis, Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:03 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^this

I suspect the break from music has reinvigorated him. Glad Nast is involved.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, agree on both fronts.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

i liked the last two records when they came out, but they are definitely not the jews i reach for when i'm in the mood for Berman.

tylerw, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

Yes!!!!!!

cwkiii, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

xxp I agree on the last record but Tanglewood Numbers is all-time classic imo.

cwkiii, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

haha you're right -- i just looked at the tanglewood tracklisting and i was like "those songs are all fucking great"

tylerw, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

It is only the last record that really does very little for me, though I would cut "The Farmer's Hotel" from Tanglewood in a heartbeat. Skip it every time but really enjoy the rest of the record.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link

I've never bothered with the last one before. No good?

PaulTMA, Thursday, 8 January 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link

kinda like news of new twin peaks; wonderful as much for the thought of its creator's renewed activity as for its individual merit. really great to hear.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 9 January 2015 00:18 (nine years ago) link

faraway gaze of dcb redolent of historic presidents

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 9 January 2015 00:22 (nine years ago) link

maybe on my own, but I really love the last one - Suffering Jukebox and San Francisco BC are two of my favourite SJ songs & I keep coming back to the whole thing, has so many moments that make me happy - language of virtue in 2nd verse of Strange Victory, Strange Defeat (ha and also of course "What have they done with the fat ones? The bald and the goateed?"); the jolly/bleak mania of Party Barge; whole ornately developed conceit of Candy Jail.

It is an odd album - What Is Not But Could Be If feels a bit like he's writing against his talents & trying this slightly mystical abstract style, and a couple of tracks don't quite come off (never been keen on My Pillow… and We Could be Looking…). But it's between this and Tanglewood Numbers for my favourite.

woof, Friday, 9 January 2015 10:22 (nine years ago) link

I have a lot of time for LMLS, although the fact I did a moderately indepth review of it probably meant I gave it more attention than might otherwise have been the case. there are less ~quotable vignettes~ on it than others which (understandably) disappoints ppl I suspect. (unsure how much crossover there is in the fanbases but the new Half Man Half Biscuit album has a comparable deal in that regard I think)

Pair of fun gals argue about the days in a week :-) (DJ Mencap), Friday, 9 January 2015 11:25 (nine years ago) link


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