TS: "Death Metal" by Possessed vs. "Black Metal" by Venom
― suggest butt (Pillbox), Friday, 9 November 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
vs. "Power Metal" by Pantera?
― suggest butt (Pillbox), Friday, 9 November 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link
I've found my enthusiasm for Venom fading a little as I've been diving deeper into stuff that came later. I'm finding them harder to take seriously--which I think is probably part of the point (I know they weren't "really" Satanic), but I feel like their stuff lacks depth sometimes.
I got to do something awesome last night. It was snowing like a beast in NY, and I was on a bus on the way back from Pennsylvania riding through it in the dark and cold, watching it come down. And I listened to Transilvanian Hunger and it never sounded better to me than it did then.
― Clarke B., Friday, 9 November 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
Five things I'm loving:
Gore Mean Man's Dream still a sick record after all these years SL reish is amazingLiturgy Aesthetica kinda ashamed that I've ended up liking this record so much, but I put it on in anticipation of the TJ 20th anniversary show and it's great hipster metal or noEagle Twin The Unkindness of CrowsAluk Todolo FinsternisAltar of Plagues White Tomb
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link
that aluk todolo is so amazing. the new album is intense. man oh man love that stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow1g4xd7gTM
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't heard any recent Utech stuff but that label can basically do no wrong.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
my favorite label. for like the last 3 years in a row.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
new aluk is on ajna offensive.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
What recent Utech stuff would you recommend?
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
definitely get the new Gog album. which is coming out soon. or pre-order it or whatever.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
the sky burial album from last year is one of my favorite things ever. that album is a trip.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
new aluk is on ajna offensive. --scott seward
I have that but I prefer Finsternis.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
I love the other Gog Utech record so I will have to look for that.
oh and the architeuthis rex album. urania. very very disorienting. if you always need to know where you are don't get that one. but if you don't mind being split from your body than definitely get it.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
i'm a Gog super-fan. william fowler collins/gog collab album is well worth seeking out as well.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
New VagusNerve in December as well!
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
don't listen to Scott re: High on Fire, they're amazing.
love this thread idea! I haven't been listening to metal so much the past month except for I went on a two-night binge of The Silent Enigma and I seldom let a few days pass without some Mercyful Fate. I am playing the Hooded Menace record a lot.
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 9 November 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't been listening to much metal at all either. 2012 just isn't the year for me. but there was a snow storm the other day and I had to walk over a bride, so clearly I had to play a darkspace album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXdCBAUW244
― original bgm, Friday, 9 November 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
haha walk over a BRIDGE, I am not a monster that walks over brides
but check out that darkspace clip if you've never heard em. everyone should listen to darkspace.
― original bgm, Friday, 9 November 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
actually, watch the cool space grafix on the first vid but listen to this one instead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rwt_UjLPrk
didn't realize the killer slo-mo slayer outro got the axe in the first vid
― original bgm, Friday, 9 November 2012 04:58 (eleven years ago) link
tonight just ain't my night
― original bgm, Friday, 9 November 2012 04:59 (eleven years ago) link
thoughts on deathhammer? can't decide if they are pretty righteous or kind of generic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzYMnGn5NSI
― original bgm, Friday, 9 November 2012 05:06 (eleven years ago) link
(5) Autopsy: Mental Funeral -- I LOVE this. I love when death metal gets slowed down and a little doomy but still maintains its death-ness
― Siegbran, Friday, 9 November 2012 08:17 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, thanks Alan; that Darkspace is phenomenal on first listen. And thanks for the Asphyx recommendation, Siegbran. Anyone have an opinion on the best Gorguts record to start with?
― Clarke B., Friday, 9 November 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
Obscura, if you don't mind atonality and bizarre compositions and genius. The second one (Erosion of Sanity) if you're a little more into straight Death Metal.
― You're a pushy lil bastard, ain't ya? But I like that. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 9 November 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
don't sleep on from wisdom to hate either. dials the skronk down considerably from obscura but it's still top-notch and also has a much sludgier sound. you might dig that since the autopsy death/doom mix is really doing it for you.
― original bgm, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
glad you dug darkspace btw. they scratch an itch little else does for me, pretty special band.
― original bgm, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
I have to admit, I have innate misgivings about the *idea* of Obscura, given what I've read about its similarity to free jazz/skronk. I have lots of time for free jazz/skronk (though less than I used to, I think), but it's hard for me to imagine it not sounding a bit like a formal exercise. I'm alwas suspicious of those records, though, that allow people not very steeped in a genre to say, "now THIS, this is showing how [genre x] can stretch boundaries"... Whatever, I probably just need to listen to the damn thing!
― Clarke B., Friday, 9 November 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, just listen to it. it's incredibly and doesn't really sound like naked city or whatever. it's certainly a death metal record at the end of the day.
re: asphyx: the records from the reunited lineup are definitely solid but I have to say that the production on each was a turn-off for me. they definitely have that modern metal sound - no warmth or space in the mix, big slab of sound. guess I gotta listen to the old stuff already.
― original bgm, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
Production in metal is something I've been thinking about a lot. It seems like a hard genre (broadly speaking) to produce, and I remember reading something how only that one guy could really harness the sound of those first-wave Florida death metal bands, but lots of people hate his production. Then there's the stuff I gravitated to first like Priest and Sabbath and Maiden (early at least) which is definitely more "'70s hard rock" production (are there bands still recording metal in such a sort of drily documentarian way, or did that die off?). Then there's all the second-wave Norwegian BM stuff which is legendarily "poorly" recorded but part of the aesthetic--which I love for certain records but find for others that it feels forced and genuinely unpleasant to listen to (e.g. Nattens Madrigal by Ulver--I can understand not wanting super-clean production, but those melodies are so lovely and it feels like this very willful attempt to uglify them). I don't know that I've encountered much with that "modern metal sound" but it sounds like the loudness war is alive and well in the genre.
― Clarke B., Friday, 9 November 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
cosign on perennially underrated From Wisdom to Hate
Obscura's great but I don't like to admit it because it's one of those records that people who won't listen to straight-up beautiful death metal say is SO GREAT because it sounds at points more like stuff they already know
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 9 November 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
every gorguts album is well worth owning.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
don't forget to listen to siegbran's other favorite band if you haven't already:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi2REgByOqs&feature=related
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, November 9, 2012 9:41 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Zackly how it's scanned to me in reading about it, but having you guys who listen to metal with metal ears recommend it means I will now check it out. I can't believe how many amazing records are still out there for me to discover. It's almost stressful.
― Clarke B., Friday, 9 November 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
Scott, I LOVE that record. I got it some months back and wore the hell out of it, so it's not in my "current top 5" or whatever, but it made an enormous impression on me. I'd never heard anything like it.
― Clarke B., Friday, 9 November 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I mean you can't hold that against it, it was a pretty fucking ballsy move at the time & it's still great
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 9 November 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
I have to admit that I'm guilty more than I should be of negative predisposition toward a record based on the surrounding discourse or how it's generally critically framed.
― Clarke B., Friday, 9 November 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
obscura is amazing. and quite the listening experience. i don't let its thurston moore status or whatever bother me. actually i have no idea if thurston is a fan. but you know what i mean.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
Atriarch - Ritual of PassingNeurosis - Honor Found in DecayAluk Todolo - Occult RockOld Man Gloom - NOPig Destroyer - Book Burner
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
i've never had a problem recommending "crazy" metal albums to people who don't listen to metal. or hip metal or whatever. i don't care what their motivations are. darkspace are a good example. would totally recommend them to people who just like heavy ambient music. they could appeal to lots of folks.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
Obscura is only "hipster" death metal in retrospect anyway, right. It wasn't like it came out and was critically acclaimed by the Wire or whatever.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 November 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
I heard about it from a certain Mountain Goats lead singer though haha.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 November 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
Gore Mean Man's Dream still a sick record after all these years SL reish is amazing
totally, been listening to this loads after the 80s poll, also Band of Susans, Bitch Magnet (yeah I know, not metal).
Morbid Angel: Altars of Madness
Seconded Clark, great record. I would recommend Obituary's Slowly We Rot if you like early Morbid Angel.
Also:
Flower Travellin' Band - SatoriTweak Bird - Undercover CropsHarvey Milk - Life... The Best Game in Town
― Neil S, Friday, 9 November 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
New Eagle Twin is p great as well, though I need to listen to it more.
― Neil S, Friday, 9 November 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
Siegbran (or anyone else): is The Rack as good a place as any to start with Asphyx?
― Clarke B., Friday, 9 November 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
NM, you mentioned that one upthread; thanks! Will get.
― Clarke B., Friday, 9 November 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
don't know if i'm ever digging five at once but here are a few metal albums on my phone
ulver: bergtatt - don't have the time of day for straight up black metal lately but this has always been a favorite because 1) ulver is the best band 2) their particular idea of black metal, at least on this record, is more rolling & cinematic, less icy hypnosisazarath: blasphemers' maledictions - still mad i didn't know about this record last year. astounding, exploratory death.anata: the infernal depths of hatred - THIS FUCKING BAND Y'ALL. jazzy death metal that is kind of just on the edge of floating off into pestilence territory. tight, brutal, mind-turningiron maiden: killers - yep
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
also i cannot get into this year's asphyx record. when it's death-y or crusty, it's great. when it's doomy it's boring
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
also definitely a member of the "from wisdom to hate kicks ass, don't sleep on it" crew
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
incantation - mortal throne of nazarene
― j., Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link
I love that record. There's something deep and primeval about Incantation. Maybe because the vocalist sounds like Treebeard.
― jmm, Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link
on a big metal kick.
morbus chron - sleepers in the riftcosmic church - ylistismoonblood - blut und kriegdarkthrone - panzerfaust teitanblood - death
― viacom dios, Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link
autopsy -'tourniquets, hacksaws and graves'morbus chron - 'sweven'annihilator - 'alice in hell'mayhem - 'deathcrush'behemoth - 'the satanist'
― cb, Friday, 23 May 2014 09:14 (ten years ago) link
also,necrovation - s/tslaughter - 'strappado'the obsessed - s/tpaysage d'hiver - 'einsamkeit'pestilence - 'consuming impulse'
― cb, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:32 (ten years ago) link
rigor mortis!!!
― j., Monday, 18 August 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link
Teitanblood - DeathThorns - s/tHarvest Gulgaltha - NecrosophicRotting Christ - Thy Mighty ContractDream Death - Somnium Excessum
― oblique blasphemies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
Brutality - Screams of Anguish
― jmm, Monday, 18 August 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link
xp I feel like I should note that this is the first Rotting Christ album I've ever owned, having taken some weird disliking to their music back in the day that I'm over. Great stuff!
― oblique blasphemies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
http://lastrit.es/reviews/7257/spectral-lore-iii
still feeling this so much this year
― j., Friday, 5 June 2015 03:50 (nine years ago) link
https://jackholesrealm.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/c0021227-solar-system-and-nicolaus-copernicus-spl.jpg
If I had wishes, I would shout to you and screamBut now I realize, you're like young dying streamsI'm in the real world, with people, crises and scarsCopernicus, I don't care about your stars
― j., Wednesday, 15 July 2015 01:56 (eight years ago) link
Vorum - Poisoned Void/Undergang (new one with Danish title)Dark Descent death metal. Undergang takes me back to first hearing demos by Entombed, Grave, Funebre, etc, real gutteral grave gnarl. Vorum is just vicious old school death.
Inquisition - Obscure Verses for the MultiverseA couple of songs on this approach Bolzer's "Entranced by the Wolfshook" for weird melodic ideas that sound new to metal. Also greatly appreciate the weird, warping riffs generally.
Stargazer - A Merging to the BoundlessThese guys are so great. I feel like this walks back what I didn't like about "A Work of Great Ages," a more defined production highlighting the contrast between the fluid, proggy bass guitar and mildly discordant, off-kilter riffs.
Root - Hell SymphonyFinally got a copy of this. Czech old school black metal, featuring the weird barks of Jiri "Big Boss" Valter, founder (and no longer member) of the Czech branch of the Church of Satan. I was listening to Triptykon recently and realized some of the bits with clean vocals actually reminded me of later Root.
Necrophobic - Nocturnal SilenceFile under bands I somehow never heard until recently. Great black death stuff, first time I listened to it in the car I wound up driving around for ten minutes so I wouldn't have to stop it before the album ended.
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 20 July 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
Okay I used the word "weird" like fifty times, sorry.
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 20 July 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
wait so you liked the one before 'work of great ages' better?
― j., Monday, 20 July 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link
Nah, I should've separated that. I didn't like Work of Great Ages as much, kind loses the band in that murky production. New one's great, though.
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 20 July 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
kind of loses, that is. It's like 85 degrees and 99% humidity here, I think my brain's melting.
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 20 July 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link
At the moment i'm listening to:
Tribulation - Children Of The NightTaiga - Gaia (over-the-top Siberian depressive black metal)Obsequiae - Area Of Vernal TombsVile Creature - A Steady Descent Into The SoilBelow The Sun - Envoy (really beautiful cosmic doom, again from Siberia)
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 20 July 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
*Aria*
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 20 July 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link
I love this Vorum track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaOECtl6Q4A
― jmm, Monday, 20 July 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link
^^^^ awesome. They've really got a knack for making their stuff sound vicious.
Tribulation - Children Of The Night
I really like this record but it doesn't really stick with me; not necessarily a bad thing if you can kind of rediscover an album repeatedly.
Going to have to check out Below the Sun and Taiga later.
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 20 July 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
I quite liked last years "Ashen Light" by Taiga so good to see they have a follow-up so quickly.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 07:22 (eight years ago) link
i don't have five right now but i genuinely can't stop listening to coroner's mental vortex and razor's shotgun justice
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
Those are great albums, man, easily worth 250% of many other metal albums.
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link
I got the Violent Restitution reissue recently and it's awesome but I keep going back to Malicious Intent too. It's less polished and straight-up thrashy but still vicious.
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link
Well I've been hooked on Razor's Evil Invaders lately, our Canadian thrash stars are not aligning! Metal record I constantly find myself coming back to is Vhol's debut. Happy to hear a new one is coming out this year.
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link
blut aus nord: 777 cosmosophymorbus chron: swevenmotley crüe: too fast for loveparadise lost: medusagorement: the ending quest
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link
I think Cosmosophy is my favorite of the 777 series.
― DEATH PUPPET (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 13 October 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link
morbus chron: sweven
yeeeeeah
I listen to too much metal but here's five I keep coming back to recently:
Skepticism - StormcrowfleetThergothon - Stream from the HeavensAgalloch - Ashes Against the GrainFalls of Rauros - Vigilance PerennialAdramelech - Psychostasia (has a weird style of riffing similar to Nespithe but more listener-friendly)
I'm pretty certain that one day Blut aus Nord will click with me but I find them pretty hard going tbh
― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 13 October 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link
I actually had that reaction to BAN for many years - thought it was interesting but it didn't really grab me. The 777 series and Deus Salutis Meae finally did it.
Love that Adramelech album!
― DEATH PUPPET (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 14 October 2018 07:41 (five years ago) link
I've never understood why Indian aren't huge - because of their un-searchable name?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB9ElBNon-E
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 14 October 2018 09:40 (five years ago) link
SubRosa - More Constant Than the GodsSlayer - Decade of AggressionAshbringer - YügenSárr - AvitunSepultura - Arise
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
xp tbh I never checked out Indian because the (not great) name led me to think they were on some generic stoner business... that's why more ripping than I was expecting.
Anyway this week:
Uncle Acid - WastelandMortuous - Through WildernessHigh On Fire - Electric Messiah (& a lot of Blessed Black Wings too)Voivod - The WakeDog Soldier - Barking of the Dogs of War (strong 80s UK metal punk vibes)
― DEATH PUPPET (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
*way not why
Recently started going through my 2018 'to listen' list. So far:
Kroda - SelbstweltDautha - Brethren of the Black SoilHamferð - Támsins likamArgonavis - Passing Through the Igneous MawArkona - Khram
― pomenitul, Monday, 15 October 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
Panopticon - The Scars of Man on the Once Nameless WildernessPortal - IONYOB - Our Raw HeartThe Body - I Have Fought Against It, But I Can’t Any Longer.Thou - Magus
Would love to mention Deafheaven and The Armed but a bit too false for this
― gman59, Thursday, 18 October 2018 03:01 (five years ago) link
Gorguts - Colored SandsKEN Mode - Loved Helms Alee - Sleepwalking SailorsCult of Luna - MarinerImmolation - Atonement
― beard papa, Thursday, 18 October 2018 04:14 (five years ago) link
Ghost- Opus Eponymous (still my favorite of theirs)Peste Noire - Ballade Cuntre li Anemi Francor (recent discovery)Tribulation- Down Below (their streak continues)Khanus- Flammarion (very promising debut)King Heavy- s/t (haven’t been able to get into the new one but this is still a classic)
― o. nate, Thursday, 18 October 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link