my last minute cobbled together one:
1. global communication - 76:142. carl craig - landcruising3. mr fingers - introduction4. red planet - lbh62518765. underworld - beaucoup fish6. deep dish - penetrate deeper7. v/a - flux trax 28. boards of canada - music has the right to children9. luke slater - freek funk10. aphex twin - saw 2 11. daft punk - homework12. paperclip people - the secret tapes of dr eich13. underworld - second toughest in the infants14. orbital - brown album
― second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 3 November 2012 09:34 (eleven years ago) link
Good to see Mr Fingers' Introduction appearing in these lists...some lush house music there. Think I nommed it and then failed to vote for it.
― millmeister, Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:25 (eleven years ago) link
Baked Beans Bean Me Up, Scotty!
what the
― sug night (sic), Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link
So I'm checking out Tuomas's No.1 on discogs/you tube and it seems that I'm more familiar with some of the tracks on this album than I thought.
― millmeister, Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
What the what?
― Tuomas, Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link
thanks so much for doing this, Tuomas!
putting my ballot together for this i really felt how partial/nostalgic my knowledge of 90s dance was - a lot of records whose sound i can't extricate from specific feelings, like getting freaked out by FSOL videos on late night TV, or feeling at age 12 or so super cool for picking up ex:el at a car boot sale and liking it, or being suspicious and overawed of the dude who could get us weed and wanted to listen to kruder and dorfmeister. Or rolling my eyes at everyone else (my brother, the nme) for liking Boards of Canada when I didn't! So I'm pretty excited about going through the lower reaches of the poll to fill in the blanks.
― of course you end up shazaming yourself (c sharp major), Saturday, 3 November 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link
triangular muscleazn dude at the gym this arvo wearing a tit-hugging Drexciya / UR t-shirt - I mentally saluted him on Clarke's behalf
― sug night (sic), Saturday, November 3, 2012 12:13 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sweet! I've never seen *anyone* wearing a Drexciya tee... Much less a muscle dude
― Clarke B., Saturday, 3 November 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
I realized through reading this thread that my big blind spot with '90s electronic music is the big UK "electronica" stuff. I've never knowingly even heard Leftfield, Underworld, all but one Chemical Brothers record... I somehow got really into Orbital without branching out much, I suppose?
― Clarke B., Saturday, 3 November 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
In my opinion you're not really missing much with those names to be honest, not a popular opinion here though! They're neither dancefloor-friendly enough, or challenging enough for my tastes. Orbital 'Brown' is OK. LFO, The Orb, are all great though.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 3 November 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry, meant to add KLF to that list.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 3 November 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
I really do like U.F.Orb, but maybe not quite enough to include in my top 25 or whatever... And I do have and love Chill Out but don't know the more upbeat stuff. The Chems record I have (Dig Your Own Hole) I never really connected with, and I've had it since the year it came out (but haven't revisited it in ages).
― Clarke B., Saturday, 3 November 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
My ballot, I tried to vote strategically a bit, but didn't matter that much in the end.
1) DJ DB - History of Our World Part 12) Various - Suburban Base and Moving Shadow Present: The Joint3) Various - Frankfurt Trax Volume 2: The House Of Techno4) PC & Strictly - Blech II: Blechsdöttir5) Various - Metalheadz present Platinum Breakz6) Polygon Window - Surfing on Sine Waves7) Basic Channel - BCD8) Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Vol. II9) Daft Punk - Homework10) Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children11) Maurizio - Maurizio12) LFO - Frequencies13) The Black Dog - Bytes14) Carl Craig - More Songs About Food and Revolutionary Art15) DJ Shadow - Endtroducing16) Monolake - Hongkong17) Basement Jaxx - Remedy18) A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology19) Orbital - In Sides20) Autechre - Amber
― MikoMcha, Saturday, 3 November 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah thanks Tuomas for this.
My ballot:
Grooverider Grooverider's Hardstep Selection Vol. IIOrb, The Adventures Beyond the UltraworldLFO FrequenciesUnderworld Beaucoup FishAphex Twin Selected Ambient Works 85 – 92Orbital In SidesCarl Craig DJ KicksBasement Jaxx RemedyVarious Metalheadz present Platinum BreakzDreem Teem In Session Volume 2Carlton The Call Is StrongPaperclip People The Secret Tapes of Dr. EichBlack Dog, The SpannersSource Direct Controlled DevelopmentsA Guy Called Gerald Black Secret TechnologyMoodymann A Silent IntroductionVarious Suburban Base and Moving Shadow Present: The JointRoni Size/Reprazent New Forms”Little” Louis Vega United DJs of America, Vol. 2: New York CityDaft Punk HomeworkMotorbass PansoulChemical Brothers, The Dig Your Own HoleGoldie TimelessProdigy, The Music for the Jilted Generation
So much stuff I fretted about leaving off (Hong Kong, Deep Space, Landcruising and so on).
Also ironically after my rant re blech 2 beating the joint miko had both in his list (though in the right order).
― Tim F, Saturday, 3 November 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
And yeah Las Vegas! Saddened me to leave that off too.
― Tim F, Saturday, 3 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
blech 2 is really quite good
― the late great, Saturday, 3 November 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
Two things:
(1) Has there been any chatter about a "best electronic albums 2000 to 2010" poll? I'd be happy to run something like that if there was enough interest.
(2) I'd just like to throw it out there that those of you who are unfamiliar with Porter Ricks's Biokinetics should really remedy that. It's a record of such deep inscrutability, whose charms are so difficult to articulate, yet one that feels totally elemental. Each track feels like the revealing of some microscopic zoom-view of an inner working of the earth. There is absolutely no fat on the record--no affectation, no emotional "content", no build/climax/release--and in that sense it's quite "cold"... But only in the sense that the tides, or seasonal shifts, or slowly shifting cloud formations, are cold. It reads as both uber-microscopic and colossal in scale at the same time. There is a purity to this record, in the sense that you feel very little human intervention, but at the same time sound design this complex and confounding is incredibly difficult to create. And it is so amazingly beautiful.
― Clarke B., Saturday, 3 November 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
^ yes. i first heard that porter ricks record earlier this year (thanks to a reissue) and it's pretty damn mindblowing
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Saturday, 3 November 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
I was really happy to see it reissued! I still have my original tin box, and I've found a couple of the 12"s from it over the years.
― Clarke B., Saturday, 3 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
2000s poll would be nice, yeah. Also, someone should an 80s dance music poll as well, with disco/boogie/electro/synthpop/house/techno.
― Tuomas, Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
new order would walk the 80s poll
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
Is there any sort of protocol in terms of waiting my turn, or should I just launch it?
― Clarke B., Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
Just go for it. I've postponed the 70s rock albums poll til after the EOY polls. (Balls 70s tracks poll is still going ahead)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
Clarke if you do it you should seriously score a bunch of popular 80s dance artists for whiteness, record sales, and britishness (or in madonna's case affected britishness) and pick a threshold over which certain artists aren't eligible.
or just ask people who they don't want to see ever again in an 80s poll.
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
lots of ballots and a little tough love = recipe for success imo
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
(j/k about britishness of course)
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
bonus points from me if you can find a way to make OMD eligible (but still come in behind a bunch of goofy Italo 12"s) and New Order and Depeche Mode not eligible
― a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
+1
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
no way to measure this with precision.
alternately what about a poll to determine who can vote in the poll.
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
wherein candidates canvas with poll promises, i.e. "i am a quiet storm man" etc.
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
80s dance poll electoral pollege
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
this could be awesome, maybe as a separate thing for 12"s
1. noms thread for electoral pollege.2. electoral pollege poll3. meet the pollege and bring 12"s to the general attention of the public (jaxon memorial thread)4. results!
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
Oh dudes, I was talking about a 2000-2010 poll in the spirit of this one... An '80s electronic poll is an irresistible thing, but one I don't quite feel equipped to properly steer...
― Clarke B., Sunday, 4 November 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
I think matt p was volunteering to do the 80s
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 4 November 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
I think the easiest way to stop the 80s poll from being dominated by the usual suspects wouldbe to rule out synth pop, new wave, and dance pop, and focus on just disco offshoots (boogie, italo, hi-NRG, etc), house, techno, and electro. I love Prince and Madonna and Pet Shop Boys, but I wouldn't want the poll to be dominated by them or New Order.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 4 November 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link
If you call it a 'Dance' poll people will vote accordingly. I know you could dance to West End Girls or Hip To Be Square, but it'll be clear that's not what you're getting at.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 November 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link
But it's not clear at all. Madonna's Everybody is a straight-up club track. West End Girls was huge on the US dance charts and originally produced by Bobby O. Blue Monday and Confusion were inspired by, and played in, New York clubs. Shep Pettibone is one of my favourite 80s dance producers and lots of his best work was remixes of big pop records. There's no wall between dance and pop in that period.
One solution might be to restrict big acts to a few key tracks/remixes in the nominations list so that they don't deluge the poll. It seems perverse to exclude them entirely - if, say, Madonna's career had gone the same way as Shannon's, Everybody would be as clear a choice as Let the Music Play.
― Deafening silence (DL), Sunday, 4 November 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
I was assuming that those tracks would be in tbh, or at least that West End Girls isn't generally understood to be dance track. Evidently it's me who's misunderstood what the poll's to be about.
I would suggest that the simple ideas are the best when it comes to polls though - I'm no fan of the torturous nomination process, though tbf the recent 80s rock polls seemed popular enough. State the idea and let voters decide, I say.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 November 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link
Wait didn't we just do a 2000s poll? Or am I missing something?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Sunday, 4 November 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
RESULTS (of the very nebulously defined) 110 ELECTRONIC DANCE TRACKS of the 00s
― of course you end up shazaming yourself (c sharp major), Sunday, 4 November 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
i don't recall an albums component, though, which i think was clarke b's question.
― of course you end up shazaming yourself (c sharp major), Sunday, 4 November 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for that link (my keeping-up has been patchy lately)... I do think an album poll would be fun; there were so many good records in such a huge variety of microgenres and scenes. I'd like to define things a little less "nebulously" and really focus on electronically produced non-pop music in the vein of this '90s poll.
― Clarke B., Sunday, 4 November 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
I'd also like to cut it off at 2010 so there's a bit (even just a little bit) of hindsight involved.
― Clarke B., Sunday, 4 November 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
As long as we can nail down what percentage of Pop is acceptable an 80s dance poll could be really cool.
― Josiah Alan, Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
DL otm above, i think a little pruning in the noms list is a good way to go about it.
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
Is there still a plan to have an italo poll, or are we moving towards a general 80s one?
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'd love a general 80s dance one if it was a 100-song rollout and the big name choices were limited to make room for diversity. I like the idea of having Madonna, A Guy Called Gerald, Cybotron, Francois Kevorkian, Streetsounds, Italo, Shannon, New Order, YMO, Phuture, Frankie Knuckles, Cameo, etc all in the same poll.
― Deafening silence (DL), Sunday, 4 November 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
Just checking out these results while Stuart Maconie plays cuts from Artificial Intelligence on the radio. Sad not to see any Drexciya on the results. I should have voted I guess!
― Neil S, Sunday, 4 November 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
Here's my IDM-guilt ballot
1. Autechre - LP52. Orbital - In Sides3. Autechre -EP74. Plaid - Rest Proof Clockwork5. Sabres of Paradise - Haunted Dancehall6. Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy EP7. Prodigy, The - Music for the Jilted Generation8. Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children9. Plone - For Beginner Piano10. Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do11. Prodigy, The - Experience12. Autechre - Chiastic Slide13. Aphex Twin - Richard D. James Album14. Aim - Coldwater Music15. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Vol. II16. Autechre - Amber17. Black Dog - Spanners18. Daft Punk - Homework19. MDK - Open Transport20. Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy21. µ-ziq - Royal Astronomy22. Polygon Window - Surfing on Sine Waves23. Autechre - Tri Repeatae24. Air - Moon Safari25. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85 – 92
Quite surprised at the order of some of my selections tbh, but the top 10 is about right for me.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 5 November 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for Tuomas for making this happen!
My ballot, built (with a couple of exceptions) out of nostalgia.
1.Plastikman - Consumed2.Susumu Yokota - Sakura3.Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman4.Leftfield - Leftism5.Orbital - In Sides6.Sasha & Digweed - Northern Exposure7.Burger/Ink - Las Vegas8.Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85 – 929.Deep Dish - Yoshiesque10.KLF, The - The White Room11.Prodigy, The - Experience12.Nu Yorican Soul - Nu Yorican Soul13.Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children14.Chemical Brothers, The - Exit Planet Dust15.Gas - Königsforst16.KLF, The - Chill Out17.Global Communication - 76:1418.Drexciya - The Quest19.Autechre - Incabula20.Daft Punk - Homework
― calumerio, Monday, 5 November 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
Badass forum around here. Wowzer!
Here's what I would have voted for:
1. Mouse on Mars - Autoditacker2. Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
nearly every Aphex Twin releasea bunch of Autechresome Squarepusher (can't believe it when people diss SP... I guess you have to be a musician???... Go Plastic all the way, losers!)
Meat Beat Manifesto album or 2Future Sound of London Lifeforms dominatesProdigy Experience, Jilted, and PHAT TOO3 albums by the OrbDrexciya, Transllusion, ElecktroidsBoards of CanadaMonolakeUnderground ResistancePrefuse 73DJ ShadowOrbitalPlaidBlack Secret Technology, 28 Gun Bad BoyBurger InkInnerzone Orchestra (no Carl Craig or Paperclip)Model 500maybe PlastikmanUnderworld
Goldie = blehBurial = good but not on my listProbably wouldn't even include Basic Channel
― dojo, Monday, 5 November 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link