Geogaddi came out in 2002.
― Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
Ah, good point.
― millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
are you happy with the results, tuomas?
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
I think most of the critical revisionism of 90s dance - to the extent it has been going on - has been focused on areas which are more tracks-focused than albums-focused.
This list seems depressingly boring to me but I suppose that was inevitable.
― Tim F, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
There are some good albums there, no doubt. But like I said a while ago, I'm surprised how very, very Brit-centric the list is: 41 out of the top 50 albums come from the UK. As someone who was listening to a lot of German techno in the 90s, I'm a bit disappointed it's represented by only three albums, all of which may be there because the artists behind them (Voigt, Burger, Basic Channel) became more hip in the 00s than they were in the 90s. (They're all great albums though, don't get me wrong.) My number 1 album (Air Liquide's Nephology) is German, and no one else voted for it... :( An equal disappointment is that all of American dance music is represented by Carl Craig alone.
― Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sure there were some interesting / original choices in people's lists. It's just when you put them all together, more often than not, the old favourites get hashed out.
― millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
I still listen to the Orb today, though Orbus Terrarum is my pick for the one that held up the best
― frogbs, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
i refrained from voting b/c i thought i didn't know my 90's shit, expected the results to school me. this list blows.
yea i am starting to wish i voted regardless of my level of expertise. i understand that it'd be annoying to split hairs over various strains of '90s electronic stuff but this sorta feels pointless
seems like ambient/idm stuff is pretty unavoidable in the general '90s canon, we all have heard or know that we don't want to hear those albums by now, but dance stuff is still p underrepresented outside of obvious stuff like daft punk/prodigy/basement jaxx. tho tim is otm about 90s dance being more about tracks than albums
happy to see landcruising/paperclip people/burger/ink show up. more annoyed than ever at ilx's undying love for autechre
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Friday, 2 November 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
Pansoul by Motorbass is also better than 90% of this list...
― Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
LOL
― the late great, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
It's the 'old favourites' that didn't get hashed out because the spaces were taken by lesser material that surprises me though.
Like, 'A Silent Introduction' only managed 64 but every single Autechre and Aphex Twin-related album of the 90s makes the top 60.
'A Silent Introduction' is substantially more canonical/revered in general than 'Chiastic Slide' (widely considered to be the least of Ae's 90s albums).
So the implication is that there's a bit of a structural bias in this poll towards IDM and UK album dance that lifts even lesser lights, rather than just populism/the wisdom of crowds at work.
Blech 2 beating The Joint is another example - I'd expect Artificial Intelligence or Northern Exposure or Logical Progression to, but in what world apart from a Warp bubble is Blech 2 even particularly remembered?
Of course it's wrong to read too deeply into these results given that Blech 2, say, only got 3 votes.
― Tim F, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
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Motorbass is a phenomenal record! How many albums were people allowed to vote for? I want to create a list of my own just for fun.
― Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
An equal disappointment is that all of American dance music is represented by Carl Craig alone.
DJ Shadow is from California.
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
but isn't dance music
― zvookster, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
how many ballots were received for this?
24 for the album vote.
― Tim F, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
I'm lolling at the results of polling, not at motorbass
― the late great, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
There was one unweighed ballot, so it's 25 in total. As I said, the tracks poll was clearly more popular.
― Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
Thank you for doing the poll, Tuomas.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 2 November 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
Carl Craig - More songs about food and revolutionary art ?Drexciya ? Motorbass ? Superdiscount ? Speedy J ? Surgeon ?
― sisilafami, Friday, 2 November 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
I was surprised not to see 94 Diskont by Oval, too...
― Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah nice work Tuomas - thoroughly enjoyed that. Looking forward to the singles poll.
― millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, thanks for doing the poll.
― a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 2 November 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
And, of course, thanks to you, Tuomas! I pulled out a lot of records the past few days because of this poll.
― Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
Pansoul by Motorbass is also better than 90% of this list...And yet only me and one other voted for it
― Mountain Excitement (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 2 November 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah great work Tuomas, can't wait for the tracks rollout.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 2 November 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
here's my ballot
b12 - time touristblaze - basic blazemotorbass - pansouljuan atkins - sonic sunsetgreen velvet - constant chaosflare - reference to differenceherbert - 100 lbsrob hood - internal empireken ishii - jelly tonesjeff mills - live at the liquid roommoodymann?!?mr fingers - introductionandrea parker - kiss my arpplastikman?!?ron trent - primitive artsglenn underground - atmosfeartwo lone swordsmen - the fifth mission
― the late great, Saturday, 3 November 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
i didnt see jelly tones in the noms list otherwise i would have voted for it.I did kinda rush my ballot in to meet the deadline as i had been busy with the 80s poll
1) Leftfield Leftism2) LFO Frequencies3) Underworld Dubnobasswithmyheadman4) Orbital Orbital (Brown Album)5) Squarepusher Feed Me Weird Things6) Squarepusher Hard Normal Daddy7) Prodigy, The Music for the Jilted Generation8) Mouse on Mars Autoditacker9) Mouse on Mars Niun Niggung10) Future Sound of London, The Dead Cities11) Future Sound of London, The Lifeforms12) Dave Angel Tales of the Unexpected13) Dave Clarke Archive One14) Chemical Brothers, The Dig Your Own Hole15) Chemical Brothers, The Exit Planet Dust16) Black Dog, The Bytes17) Autechre Tri Repeatae18) Aphex Twin I Care Because You Do19) Aphex Twin Richard D. James Album20) Boards of Canada Music Has the Right to Children21) Future Sound of London, The Accelerator22) KLF, The Chill Out23) KLF, The The White Room24) Orbital Snivilisation25) Oval 94 Diskont
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 3 November 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link
Couldn't resist sticking a few dj mixes in there. Somehow managed to exclude the Paperclip Ppl album.
1. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85 – 922. Black Dog, The - Bytes3. Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children4. Autechre - Incunabula5. Photek - Modus Operandi6. Black Dog, The - Spanners7. LFO - Frequencies8. Orb, The- Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld9. Harri - Subculture: A House Music Experience10. Orbital - Orbital (Green Album)11. Goldie - Timeless12. LTJ Bukem - Mixmag Live13. R Hawtin - Mixmag Live14. Various - True People: The Detroit Techno Album15. Kenny Larkin - Metaphor16. Robert Hood - Nightime World Vol. 117. Derrick Carter - Back To Basics: Cut The Crap18. Coldcut - Journeys By DJ19. Luke Slater's 7th Plain - The 4 Cornered Room20. Nu Yorican Soul - Nu Yorican Soul21. Polygon Window - Surfing on Sine Waves22. Grooverider - Grooverider's Hardstep Selection Vol. II23. Orbital - Orbital (Brown Album)24. Kruder & Dorfmeister - DJ Kicks25. Ultramarine - United Kingdoms
― millmeister, Saturday, 3 November 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
13. R Hawtin - Mixmag Live
^^ this is a good pick
16. Robert Hood - Nightime World Vol. 1
^^ always had a hard time getting into these, recently dug it back out, it's pretty good but i don't think i "get" everything he's doing on this album
― the late great, Saturday, 3 November 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
Yup it took me a while to get into the Rob Hood. I think approaching it like a jazz album (as per the cover) helped. Some of the drum programming is sublime.
― millmeister, Saturday, 3 November 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
I just cooked up a hypothetical ballot... Surprised not to see any Fennesz even nominated! Also realized in researching that a LOT of good records came out in 2000.
Aphex Twin – Selected Ambient Works Vol. 2Drexciya – The QuestBurger/Ink – Las VegasPorter Ricks – BiokineticsGas – KonigsforstCarl Craig – More Songs About Food and Revolutionary ArtPlastikman – ConsumedBoards of Canada – Hi ScoresAphex Twin – Richard D. James AlbumBasic Channel – BCDTheo Parrish – First FloorDettinger – Intershop Boards of Canada – Music Has the Right to ChildrenDrexciya – Neptune’s LairFennesz – Plus 47 Degrees 56 Hrs 37 Min Minus 16 Degrees 51 08Monolake – Hong KongSeefeel – SuccourPaperclip People – The Secret Tapes of Dr. EichDaft Punk – HomeworkOval – 94 DiskontMotorbass – PansoulOrbital – Orbital 2 (The Brown Album)Autechre – Amber Robert Hood – Internal EmpireUltramarine – Every Man and Woman Is a Star
― Clarke B., Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link
here is mine, i tried to stick mainly to the music i knew and loved during the 90s rather than subsequent archival rediscoveries.
The Orb U.F.OrbThe Orb Adventures Beyond the UltraworldAutechre AmberMetalheadz present Platinum Breakz compilationFila Brazila A Touch of Cloth9lazy9 Paradise BlownFuture Sound of London, The LifeformsLTJ Bukem LTJ Bukem Presents: Logical ProgressionDetroit Escalator Co., The Soundtrack (313)Aphex Twin I Care Because You DoGlobal Communication 76:14The Orb Orbus TerrarumPlastikman Sheet OneOrbital Orbital (Brown Album)Moodyman A Silent IntroductionRobert Hood Nightime WorldRobert Rich & B. Lustmord StalkerDeep Dish Penetrate DeeperSusumu Yokota SakuraHowie B Music for Babies.Daft Punk HomeworkBurger/Ink Las VegasBoards of Canada Music Has the Right to ChildrenVarious Artificial IntelligencePolygon Window Surfing on Sine Waves
Yes i really still like the Orb you can call me a hippy if you like.
― dsb, Saturday, 3 November 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link
triangular muscleazn dude at the gym this arvo wearing a tit-hugging Drexciya / UR t-shirt - I mentally saluted him on Clarke's behalf
― sug night (sic), Saturday, 3 November 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
1 Various Flux Trax 02
2 Air Moon Safari
3 Aphex Twin Come to Daddy EP
4 Aphex Twin Selected Ambient Works Vol. II
5 DJ Shadow Endtroducing
6 KLF, The The White Room
7 Underworld Beaucoup Fish
8 Global Communication 76:14
9 KLF, The Chill Out
10 Orbital In Sides
11 Underworld Second Toughest in the Infants
12 Boards of Canada Music Has the Right to Children
13 Carl Craig Landcruising
14 LFO Frequencies
15 Orb, The Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
16 Orbital Middle of Nowhere
17 Basement Jaxx Remedy
18 Pet Shop Boys Relentless
19 The Aloof Sinking
20 Ultramarine United Kingdoms
21 Chemical Brothers, The Brothers Gonna Work It Out
22,Bomb The Bass Clear
23 Utah Saints Utah Saints
24 Various Trance-Europe Express
25 Coldcut Journeys By DJ
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Saturday, 3 November 2012 07:43 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah thanks for doing this Tuomas, you are def the chillest poll-runner that I've encountered so far.In the same boat as a lot of people with this - I like most of the albums on the list so can't complain too much, but am still hoping that the tracks results will be a bit more exciting.
― Hard Normal Showaddywaddy (Mr Andy M), Saturday, 3 November 2012 08:28 (eleven years ago) link
Carl Craig - More songs about food and revolutionary art ?
One of the more positive surprises in this poll is that The Secret Tapes... (and Landcruising) placed and More Songs... didn't, when I feared it would be the other way around. There are a few nice songs on MSAFaRA, but a lot of it is boring, watery noodling.
― Tuomas, Saturday, 3 November 2012 08:59 (eleven years ago) link
I own all of the Top 10. Whilst I still occasionally to 10 to 3, I haven't listened to the top 2 in year's. Will have to give In Sides another listen.
And whilst I've not heard every album that made the Top 50, the only one I'd never heard of was that Burger/Ink record and it's amazing. Strange how some things can pass completely underneath your radar as I love the Gas stuff and was listening to lots of Kompact and other techno at the time.
Big thanks to Tuomas for organising this.
― groovypanda, Saturday, 3 November 2012 09:12 (eleven years ago) link
*years obviously.
Stupid autocorrect.
― groovypanda, Saturday, 3 November 2012 09:14 (eleven years ago) link
It's always cool when Burger/Ink places in polls like these, because it's inevitably followed by enthusiastic comments from people who'd never heard that album before. I don't think I've ever seen anyone say they didn't like it!
Here's my ballot, by the way:
Air Liquide Nephology 1Burger/Ink Las Vegas 2Marusha Raveland 3Paperclip People The Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich 44 Hero Parallel Universe 5Syrinx 2600 Docking -20s 6Prodigy, The Music for the Jilted Generation 7Apache 61 Apache 61 8Gas Königsforst 9Various Metalheadz present Platinum Breakz 10Khan & Walker Radiowaves 11The Irresistible Force It’s Tomorrow Already 12Omni Trio Haunted Science 13Leila K Carousel 14Carlton The Call Is Strong 15Maddkatt Courtship III I Know Electrikboy 16Ultramarine Every Man and Woman Is a Star 17Baked Beans Bean Me Up, Scotty! 18Gemini In and Out of Fog and Lights 19Emmanuel Top Asteroid 20Alter Ego Decoding the Hacker Myth 21A Guy Called Gerald Black Secret Technology 22Utah Saints Utah Saints 23Mouse on Mars Autoditacker 24PC & Strictly Blech II: Blechsdöttir 25
― Tuomas, Saturday, 3 November 2012 09:30 (eleven years ago) link
my last minute cobbled together one:
1. global communication - 76:142. carl craig - landcruising3. mr fingers - introduction4. red planet - lbh62518765. underworld - beaucoup fish6. deep dish - penetrate deeper7. v/a - flux trax 28. boards of canada - music has the right to children9. luke slater - freek funk10. aphex twin - saw 2 11. daft punk - homework12. paperclip people - the secret tapes of dr eich13. underworld - second toughest in the infants14. orbital - brown album
― second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 3 November 2012 09:34 (eleven years ago) link
Good to see Mr Fingers' Introduction appearing in these lists...some lush house music there. Think I nommed it and then failed to vote for it.
― millmeister, Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:25 (eleven years ago) link
Baked Beans Bean Me Up, Scotty!
what the
― sug night (sic), Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link
So I'm checking out Tuomas's No.1 on discogs/you tube and it seems that I'm more familiar with some of the tracks on this album than I thought.
― millmeister, Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
What the what?
― Tuomas, Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link
thanks so much for doing this, Tuomas!
putting my ballot together for this i really felt how partial/nostalgic my knowledge of 90s dance was - a lot of records whose sound i can't extricate from specific feelings, like getting freaked out by FSOL videos on late night TV, or feeling at age 12 or so super cool for picking up ex:el at a car boot sale and liking it, or being suspicious and overawed of the dude who could get us weed and wanted to listen to kruder and dorfmeister. Or rolling my eyes at everyone else (my brother, the nme) for liking Boards of Canada when I didn't! So I'm pretty excited about going through the lower reaches of the poll to fill in the blanks.
― of course you end up shazaming yourself (c sharp major), Saturday, 3 November 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link
― sug night (sic), Saturday, November 3, 2012 12:13 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sweet! I've never seen *anyone* wearing a Drexciya tee... Much less a muscle dude
― Clarke B., Saturday, 3 November 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
I realized through reading this thread that my big blind spot with '90s electronic music is the big UK "electronica" stuff. I've never knowingly even heard Leftfield, Underworld, all but one Chemical Brothers record... I somehow got really into Orbital without branching out much, I suppose?
― Clarke B., Saturday, 3 November 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
In my opinion you're not really missing much with those names to be honest, not a popular opinion here though! They're neither dancefloor-friendly enough, or challenging enough for my tastes. Orbital 'Brown' is OK. LFO, The Orb, are all great though.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 3 November 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry, meant to add KLF to that list.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 3 November 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link