Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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what are these "white girls" of which you speak?
admittedly, as i said, that was a one-listen judgement. but something about the everything-goes musical inclusivity of allen's production suggested apple to me - especially "shame for you." perhaps only that song, but whatever...

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

I just found out "Smile" was produced by Manchester drum 'n bass outfit Future Cut (search: "Overload" [Renegade Hardware 2000], if memory serves me well). I wonder if they've done the rest of the album as well.

― JoB (JoB), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Future Cut, Greg Kurstin, Pablo Cook, Blair Mackichan and Mark Ronson is the list of producers.

― David Orton (scarlet), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I just got that "LDN" single, £2. Which was nice.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Blair? I know him...

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ_hfQ2h4kQ

Lily's TOTP appearance. Quite charming.

― David Orton (scarlet), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

morelike "Lily Allen - This summers biggest chin?", amirite?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

No.
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This here's an interview by Britain's Biggest Thicko, Steve Jones, on Transmission. In it Lily Allen manages to call her "Baywatch Babe snogger" interviewer a twat, calls Geldof a cunt and a sanctimonious prat, and admits her dad is a wanker.
Usual 'my favourite colour is blue, buy my single' pop chat, then.

Alright, Still is fucking excellent. It took this long into the year to get a single great album?
-- David Orton (pashernate...), June 14th, 2006.

Apart from Nelly Furtado, Camille, El Perro Del Mar and The Knife, that is. Obviously.

― David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 30 June 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

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chinny reckon?

― David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 30 June 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

OMG you go Chantelle and Collins! Neither girl would concoct such an exchange from thin air.

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

i dont get the MIA comparisons. ILX is weird. reggae and dancehall are not the same thing. lilly allen does sub ub40 and police-style reggae, mia does sub neneh cherry hip hop.

theres an aaron la crate remix of smile which has a great beat but is totally out of tune.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I just got that "LDN" single, £2. Which was nice

I just got the Emma Bunton album, £2 at hmv. That was nice.

― danzig (danzig), Saturday, 1 July 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.zyworld.com/stefankarl/food.JPG
Lily Allen

http://myspace-971.vo.llnwd.net/00575/17/95/575145971_l.jpg
Robbie Rotten, from hit kids TV show LazyTown

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 1 July 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Lazy town is one tripped out kids show.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Saturday, 1 July 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah tis indeed out there (Max Headroom vs Magic Roundabout!)

.. but not as trippy as those Wiggles !

― mark e (mark e), Saturday, 1 July 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

OK, so "Knock 'Em Out" is "Big Chief" by Professor Longhair, and "Smile" is "Free Soul" by the Soul Brothers, but what the hell is the "LDN" sample?

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 9 July 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

Revive, for obv reson.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

Damn Razorlight. If it wasn't for them it would be a top notch top three: Nelly, Shakira and Lily. It's good/unusual to see a single climb the charts - albiet in one leap from no.13 last week - to get to NUMBER ONE. Which makes a change from 'fans get it into charts first week, drops like a stone second'.

We can take the question mark off the thread title now.

― David Orton (scarlet), Monday, 10 July 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

No, because she is not a true "hit."

EMI can hype her all they like but she will never be a proper star.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, well there you go.

(xpost) Marcello, she has a #1 Single in Britain. What the fuck else does she need?

― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

I heard loads of teenage girls singing 'Smile' in Hyde Park the other weekend - not be Lex's mythical girls at the back of the top deck of the Hackney Omnibus, but it's a start.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

The start of what?

A #1 single in Britain in 2006 - what exactly does that mean?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

What the fuck else does she need?

decent music would be a start!

ciara had a no 1 single. did people salivate over how she was going to be 2005's hottest popstar?

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

There might have some salivating on ILM - I didn't read the relevant thread(s).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

'goodies' doesn't have a thread AT ALL. ('oh' does, as does the amazing new ciara song, though. nothing LIKE the enthusiasm lily allen's got though. lily allen is pop in an acceptable way for many people - indie ("indie/ska"), white, british, proper instruments - whereas ciara is completely un-indie, black and american, and her songs' arrangements sound like malfunctioning mobile phones)

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

you should go to the msg board full of black un-indie Americans - OH WAIT IT DOESN'T EXIST ;)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should start a thread on the Goodies. "Black Pudding Bertha," "The Funky Gibbon" - now THAT's pop!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

though really, this thread should have died a death - and with it anyone's interest - the moment people went to lallen's myspace and saw that she described herself as "indie/ska". "INDIE/SKA"! condemned from her own mouth!

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

Let's just admit that she's the Happy Shopper own brand version of Neneh Cherry and leave it at that.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

cherry's too good a comparison. she's amy winehouse with all trace of wit surgically removed and clunkiness factor ratcheted up to 100. or lady sov after hanging out with the ordinary boys too much.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

only ska-pop song anyone needs this year = 'stars are blind' by paris hilton

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

From yesterday's Observer:

More than a month ago, for example, I thought to myself that I would quite like to buy Lily Allen's new album (not very original, I know, but I like to keep up with the younger generation). I looked it up on Amazon. It doesn't come out until 17 July. Now that date is drawing near and, funnily enough, I do not want it anymore. The intervening period has made me realise I am actually quite happy living without it.

Article in full.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of pseudonym is THAT marcello?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

i like Lily Allen! its good to see not all britishes have forgotten how to make good pop music :)

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

Are you trying to do a Comstock Carabinieri there?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

lily allen is pop in an acceptable way for many people - indie ("indie/ska"), white, british, proper instruments - whereas ciara is completely un-indie, black and american

Yes, that's it. People don't like her music because the songs are catchy, they like her music because they're racist. Well done, The Lex.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

Plenty of people liked Robson and Jerome's music because the songs were catchy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

Anyroad, my guess is the album will do particularly well as well.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

Plenty of people liked Hitler's Germany because the songs were catchy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

After Lex's "only ska-pop song anyone needs this year = 'stars are blind' by paris hilton" line, I am eagerly anticipating his bizarro- world justification of her cover of "Do you think I'm sexy?" on the forthcoming album.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

i highly doubt i'll be defending that, not even paris could make that dreadful, disgusting song any good.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

I am beginning to doubt your commitment to ~~Sparkle Motion~~ Paris.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

the interview with her in the saturday guardian was wonderful though. how amazing did she look on the cover?! beautiful.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

and the more i listen to 'stars are blind' the more i am overwhelmed and also genuinely moved by it.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

Big Mountain!

i highly doubt i'll be defending that, not even paris could make that dreadful, disgusting song any good.

some would argue that N-Trance already did this. but i prefer the original!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

not even n-trance.

i'm pausing to reflect on how much of a black hole of badness a song has to be if NOT EVEN N-TRANCE can make it good!

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

I felt exactly the same way about "Won't Somebody Dance With Me?" by Lynsey de Paul when I was Lex's age (xpost x 2).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hybrid Kids to The Lex's ginbox!

(xp)

― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes!

"Electronically produced music is one possibility of Tomorrows World!"

(I have the original 45 this was sampled from)

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

Was that when Landscape came on the programme?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

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