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if i skip any it's "use me" & "don't look back" cuz sometimes i'm not in the mood for bombastic stadium rock

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

half the album is bombastic stadium rock tho.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

"use me" is amazing and not really very bombastic imo

Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

i NEVER skip "use me"

if i'm not in the mood for "use me" and "do you..." i'm not in the mood for miguel, or life, or anything - those two are THE songs on the album for me

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

oh i agree that "use me" is one of the very best songs on the album, sometimes i don't feel like hearing it tho

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

half the album is bombastic stadium rock tho.

― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:13 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark

this... isn't true

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

"Use Me" is the record's most purely immmersive sound experience imo.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

yeah add "how many drinks?" to those two for me, lex, and i'd agree with you

and "arch and point"

king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

his falsetto on "use me" is just...vertiginous

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

love the tangent about "bohemian rhapsody" indirectly inspiring "where's the fun" in the spotify commentary

Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

only skippers are "where's the fun" and "candles in the sun", and even the latter i can't muster up much hate for. for shame at skipping "thrill"!

all mods con (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

when i cherrypick from this album it's usually

don't look back > use me > do you... > where's the fun in forever? > arch & point > ...all > gravity

"kaleidoscope dream" and "the thrill" are the ones that hit the spot when i'm in the mood, but i'm not always in the mood

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

"where's the fun" in forever is def the one song that seemed slight to me first few times around that i now thing is 10/10

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

From "Use Me" through to "Arch & Point" defines the album for me, I often only listen to that sequence on repeat.

Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

i wouldn't say "bombastic" but i do think the more desperate/cathartic/blood'n'guts miguel gets on this album, the better

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

Had been thinking "Adorn" might have a good shot at EOY glory but it seems like everyone has their own personal favourite Miguel song.

Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

"Kaleidoscope Dream" has an insinuating chorus -- a real earworm. I'll catch myself singing it in the kitchen and shit.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

no "adorn" will do pretty well

Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

this... isn't true

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Don't Look Back", "Use Me", "The Thrill", and "Arch & Point" totally are, and even "Where's The Fun In Forever" and "Candles In The Sun" lean in that direction for at least part of their durations

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

"Arch & Point" will always be my favorite: sexually-charged ballet metaphors, bare power pop elements, plopping percussion, and guitar coda.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, it's seemed obv for a while that "Adorn" has a good chance of topping the 77 this year.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

Let's do it right this EOY season.

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

if i was gonna try and get an alternative-to-adorn camp going i'd think "do you..." had the best chance

not that i'd vote for any track on this even if i liked "adorn"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

this... isn't true

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Don't Look Back", "Use Me", "The Thrill", and "Arch & Point" totally are, and even "Where's The Fun In Forever" and "Candles In The Sun" lean in that direction for at least part of their durations

― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If they're bombastic stadium rock, they certainly don't sound like anyone else's bomstadrock.

Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

I think for me it's like... Adorn > A&P > Do You > Use Me > The Thrill > Where's The Fun > KD > Don't Look Back > PIM > How Many Drinks > Candles

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

If you're talking about the ILX poll then Adorn has as good a chance as any - he went top 10, possibly top 5, last year and his profile is higher now. Also 2012 has been kinda low on big unifying singles, Call Me Maybe notwithstanding.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

Bombastardtock

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

sounds like a late nineties Chem Bros track.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

not that i'd vote for any track on this even if i liked "adorn"

― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Now I know why Kanyetothe made a thread about Lex

O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

If they're bombastic stadium rock, they certainly don't sound like anyone else's bomstadrock.

― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I dunno, it's all pretty Purple Rain as mentioned upthread (which is good! usually when people "sound like Prince" that's not the Prince they rip off), but not slavishly

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not really sure the bass bumps in Adorn really fit the song and sound totally out of place in the context of the rest of the album but the songwriting and the performance and everything else about the track are straight 10/10 so it barely matters.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

adorn definitely could win ilx this year. adorn, call me maybe, inspector norse and... idk what else, seems like a pretty weak year

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

Prince might be bombastic and stadium and rock but I wouldn't call him "bombastic stadium rock". The distinction makes sense in my head at least.

Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I think it'll come down to Adorn vs CMM. Gangnam Style will take a lot of punters' money but won't get the votes. I'm probably missing something obvious though.

Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

it wouldn't be the same at all with out that big synth bass xxp

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

yeah "Sure Thing" was #6 on our poll last year (and only #68 on P&J, the fuckers)

Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

(Looooooooooooooooove Sooooooooooooooooooosa)

O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

which dawn single is going to get ilx traction? "pretty wicked things" i presume

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

obv in a just world "pretty wicked things" would have had the real-world impact that "adorn" did but oh well

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

If I vote for a Dawn track it will be "Black Lipstick"

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

I don't really rate "Pretty Wicked Things"

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

;_;

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

nicki is going to suffer from vote-splitting too :(

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

"Automatic," "Black Lipstick," or "Scripture" for me.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, it seems like it's trying to do too much with too little xxp

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

it does a huge amount with a huge amount

i won't vote for any armor on song because i'll vote for armor on, so...

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

If they're bombastic stadium rock, they certainly don't sound like anyone else's bomstadrock.

They do and they don't, I mean the vocals and most of the songwriting are't but the guitar tones and the general ambience feel like pure 00s stadium rock, hence me mentioning Coldplay upthread. I mean that's fine, the guitar sounds and general ambience are usually the best thing about those records, it's just everything else that blows so well done Miguel for finding an acceptable context for them.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

I prefer "86" as far as songs from the upcoming album go

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

it does a huge amount with a huge amount

i won't vote for any armor on song because i'll vote for armor on, so...

― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's with the radicalization on this issue? i generally think the shipley doctrine is a good one but it doesn't apply iirc to huge singles (like adorn as you mentioned before, not really the case with dawn)

all mods con (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

don't really get the purple rain comparisons either

all mods con (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)


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