today marks the first time I have ever heard someone speak fondly of "some like it hot"
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:42 (thirteen years ago)
aero, when Christgau dismissed Duran for writing "lyrics that rearrange received language from several levels of discourse into a noncommital private doggerel," he really means Gary Kemp.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)
I don't care if it's good technique, it's terrible
I'm going to preserve this in amber
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)
xpost And Duran*2 too.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)
also no one ever listened to Duran Duran because of lyrical quality; it was bright-sounding New Wave stream-of-consciousness pop music where the sounds were much more important than the actual words, which is why the song "Union of the Snake" actually has the words "union of the snake" in it
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)
I think we just need to go for it here and link up all the videos, so in batches of three:
"Gold"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntG50eXbBtc
"True"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR8D2yqgQ1U
"Only When You Leave"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlLCC_gF8QY
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)
actually I think the closest DD came to a lyrically coherent song was "I Don't Want Your Love"
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)
"Lifeline"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJjMqsGk07Q
"Communication"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-QqRewb7V8
"Instinction"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PebH4X097Lg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)
like I can see how it might be ok if you can't understand what people are singing, but when your line is "the union of the snake is on the climb" and you sound like you're actually singing "IBM stock split two for one yesterday, I'm rich" then your technique is balls whether it's the recommended one or no
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)
NED GOD DAMMIT I WAS ENJOYING THE DISCUSSION AND NOW IT'S A BUNCH OF YOUTUBES
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)
"Narrative Coherence in Duran Duran" is a course taught by vocalist and noted musicologist D@n Perry, offered once a year at Boston University.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)
My apologies, aero. But the evidence must be presented to the assembled. (I do love your IBM stock line there.)
"Chant No. 1"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRN96eSMbFU
"To Cut a Long Story Short"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE2sCISQmpE
"The Freeze"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ZCX21VsQc
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)
yeah but "voices in your body comin' through on the radio-ho-ho" is awesome and you know it
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)
well first off, a stock split would not increase your net worth at all because the stock price is halved in order to keep the valuation constant
secondly, it absolutely sounds like he's saying "The Union of the Snake is on the climb", it's the next line that's unintelligible but that's okay because everyone is just sitting there going "wtf is the union of the snake" and not paying attention
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)
not "INSTANTLY" increase, that should say
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)
"Union of the Snake" sounded very, very weird on upstate NY top 40 radio when it debuted.
"Musclebound"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08M-9kHB_20
"Paint Me Down"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmKCnmQx4jw
"She Loved Like Diamond"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9JxbTQ5SPg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)
GO AWAY
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)
really "Rio" is the only classic-era Duran Duran song I hate but that's mostly because of a dude in college who would play it three or four times at every Glee Club party
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)
Wait, every time without fail? That's insane.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)
I have never SBd Ned but winging into a discussion and forcing me to change my prefs to show videos as links is really pushing it
xp lol Rio is one of 3 Durhan Durhan songs I'll ride for
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)
Was a comma missing, or have you nearly SBd Ned before?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)
Durhan Durhan
My god, middle school flashbacks.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)
YES IT IS
he also did this with the MTV Dance Mix that had "Now That We Found Love" mixed into "Good Vibrations" but that was okay
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)
I don't really like "Rio" either but only because "Hungry Like The Wolf," "New Moon on MOnday," "The Reflex," "Planet Earth," "Notorious" and "Careless Memories" are 9's or 10's.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)
that MTV Party To Go volume is ALWAYS in my car!
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)
It's nice to see someone else stand up for "Notorious," actually. That album's surprisingly good.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)
Alfred knows what's up (although I'd sub "Girls On Film" for "New Moon on Monday" and "I Don't Want Your Love" for "Careless Memories")
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)
their second best studio album
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)
"Careless Memories" actually works best for me on the Arena version. I have no idea why, Le Bon sounds ridiculous even for him.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)
(adds Alfred and DJP to Xmas card list, removes aero)
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)
man I love "Save a Prayer" too
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)
add my voice to the notorious chorus, haven't played it in years but at the time i positively reviewed it in ned's favorite magazine, instantly sacrificing any shred of rock critic "credibility" on the altar of nile rodgers worship
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)
ha, it bears a re-listen cos I heard it again recently and it sounds surprisingly solid. i know it's got those clattery 80s drums and all, but it's still a p good groove and i actually like the guitar on it which is mostly this one tickly talking headsy line (i agree that andy's guitar was really shit and loud on some of their other songs e.g. get it on).
― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)
"Some Like It Hot" has always been fantastic, wtf
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)
I reappraised Notorious not long ago. I'm pretty sure I was lol drunk when writing it.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)
"Notorious" never needed reappraisal either, it was fantastic from the jump
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)
oh I mean the album. Plenty of non-Durannies stanned for "Notorious" even in '86.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)
oh gotcha
tbh I don't think I've heard an entire DD album aside from Big Thing, which I thought was terrible aside from "I Don't Want Your Love"
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)
instantly sacrificing any shred of rock critic "credibility" on the altar of nile rodgers worship
Rightly so. I'm surprised that didn't happen sooner, him producing them.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)
to be fair to Nile he went straight to Let's Dance after the last Chic album.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)
actually I may have heard Seven and the Ragged Tiger but I strongly suspect that I just kept playing "Union of the Snake" over and over
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)
I heard Big Thing's "Do You Believe in Shame" a few weeks ago at CVS!
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)
xpost -- You mean you didn't play it all the way through so you could hear Simon looking into the eyes of a straaaaaAAAAAnnnnguhhhhhhhhhr
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)
I never had any desire to own Duran Duran albums, just the singles, which is why Decade is near-perfect for me
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)
Their fault for not including "New Moon on Monday" though.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)
That's almost a perfect comp but no "New Moon on Monday."
Haha xpost!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)
an actual top ten while "Skin Trade" barely scrapped the top 40 and boasts Simon doing a Prince imitation.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think I've heard an entire DD album aside from Big Thing
!!!
You should definitely listen to the entire S/T album and Rio.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)
So you can hear this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a3DGP65m2o
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)
and "Is Anyone Out There"!
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)