Rolling Country 2006 Thread

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*Southwind*, self-titled debut by soul-country (i.e., 75 percent gruff yet sometimes high-registered blue eyed soul, 25 percent country, but with fiddle parts in the soul songs, gospel backup parts in the country songs, etc) band of Neil Carswell from Copperhead of cdbaby.com fame (see above.) As good as Pat Green's or Jon Nicholson's albums, to my ears, as far as the subgenre goes. Lots of on-the-road-away-from-home songs (via truck, bike, and/or train, not completely sure which)); "Temporary Relief," which is keyed to a "long way to Tipperary" pun, and "Altar Call," keyed to a CCR "Lodi" reference (on the road seeking my fame and fortune) are a great ending for the album; also really like "Keep You Guessing," the country rambler "Til The Blues Come In," and a lot more on this.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:47 (twenty years ago)

And speaking of Copperhead, I finally figured out that their probably-catchiest and most rousing song "Keepin' On" basically IS "Keep On Rollin'" by REO Speedwagon -- same hook and everything, and no that is not an insult. Also, "Stricken" on their album turns into "Black Betty" by Ram Jam for a couple seconds, and they cover "Drift Away" (better than Uncle Kracker) which somehow I never noticed before but which makes perfect sense given the soul-country side project, and "Free Man" has a cool acid-rock organ break and like all great free-man songs reminds me of South Side Commission's great early gay disco classic "Free Man," though usually when hard rock bands sing about being a free man I think they're singing about getting out of prison whereas when gay disco bands sing about it they're more likely singing about the entire prison of LIFE. Unless I am completely wrong.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Kind of enjoying Detroit Disciples' cdbaby soul-rock album *Saving Grace* (especially "Heartbreak Station" which is not a Cinderella song, "Cinderella Shoes" which ditto, "Next Big Thing" which ditto though it is about the great hair-metal topic of smalltown girl escapes to Hollywood, the completely vague and possibly even chickenshit protest song "Government Man", "Saving Grace" which is blues with Latin undertow a la Santana, and "Bed of Nails" which has gospel backup and where the singer dreams he sees Jesus in a red white and blue shroud singing the National Anthem, which image I *think* he doesn't approve of but I'm not positive) too. (Disciples, Grace, Jesus -- more Christian rock, right? I guess?) Though by now we're maybe really starting to sink into the unescapable abyss of actual baby-boomer beer-commercial bowling-alley stodge, I dunno. At least as much John Hiatt as J Geils; scary how good this kinda stuff has been sounding to me lately given how much I've made fun of it over the years. Thing is, the singer can really sing, even if he has to push hard to do it (though not with the ease of the Southwind guy -- "Cinderella Shoes" and "Next Big Thing" are great though), and the band can play (all the songs range between 4:29 and 5:37, which is some kinda formula, but the guitarist knows how to fill the time out, and the rhythm section knows how to swing it, though maybe not always swing it *hard*) Or maybe I'm just showing my age? I dunno. Though actually, if they're from Detoit, come to think of it, probably the most obvious inspiration is Bob Seger, which I totally approve of.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

(though actually i just checked their cdbaby site and they're NOT from Detroit, they're from California, but they're "named for mentor Mitch Ryder", which is almost as good. also says that the title track is their tribute to peter green's fleetwood mac. but that's who first did santana's "black magic woman", right? so i wasn't THAT far off.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:41 (twenty years ago)

KCEE, *Foolish,* also via cdbaby, proves that Olivia Newton-John is still a c&w vocal influcence in Australia, nice to know, though the sound only fully works in two tracks, one of which ("What's Love") concerns Kcee getting off work early on a Tuesday and catching the bus home and more importantly it sounds exactly like "Walking on Sunshine" by Katina and the Waves, and the other of which, "Heaven's Still Here," concerns men in suits foreclosing the land Kcee can't afford the mortgage on. Maybe three more tolerably upbeat tracks, one of them fairly bluesy, plus an OK duet with some guy, and some ballad shlock. Anyway. Is there a country CHART in Australia? I'm curious.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

I dunno if this exactly what you're looking for, but the Country Music Association of Australia has this: http://www.country.com.au/index.cfm?page_id=1044

Seems Americana heavy, judging from the names I recognize. I liked some songs on that Paul Kelly bluegrass album, though.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:19 (twenty years ago)

I will check that out shortly. thanks, Roy. (and I need to check out that Dixie Chicks interview too, wow.)

Exene Cervanka and the Original Sinners, *Sev7en*: There was a time, more than 20 years ago, that even her countryish stuff (the stuff with X anyway, not the Knitters crap) didn't strike me as totally mannered and ridiculous. That time is long gone, and I don't know if it's 'cause I got tired of her or 'cause her voice just kept getting flatter. Anyway, I got through about 4 songs this time, then gave up.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:27 (twenty years ago)

I so agree about the Dixie Chicks interviews. Thanks for the heads up. I am afraid that the Dixie Chicks need country more than county needs the Dixie Chicks.

werner T., Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

It's not that big a deal, really; Natalie says it sounds like the Eagles in the 1970s, which means it will sound like every other country album since they left. Plus, there's this: "I don't mean country music, I just mean the industry."

So, yeah, much ado about probably nothing, at least until it comes out. It'll be interesting to actually hear the damn thing.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Without John Doe, Exene's voice is like Abu Graib field recordings.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:36 (twenty years ago)

yeah i'm stoked to hear the chix, although weren't they bitching about country records sounding like the eagles last time out?

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Dahlia Wakefield, *Close To Home*: Pop-rocked self-released post-Shania Canadian country (born in the Philipines, moved to Saskatchewan, now based in Alberta) with dance-rocked/Euro-popped Abba touches most visible/prominent so far in "Heaven Knows," "Meet Again Someday," "Slipping Away." (From her webpage, or one of them: "They say that the AC acronym for Adult Contemporary really stands for Almost Country, and Dahlia's genre blending and bending style between pop, rock and country is a testimony to that theory.") Album never drags. I really like this a lot, and when Dahlia finally gets to sing to just an acoustic guitar in the alternate version of "Slipping Away" that precedes the 15-second "Studio Babble" that closes the album, she's got a cool Shakira-style vibrato, and she's singing about tying you up to her bed and locking you up in her house.

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Damn you xhuxk. Damn you. I was doing so well not being sucked into the Borges mp3theque black hole of cdbaby, but now I'll fuckin submit. That Dahlia song sounds awesome.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 3 February 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Shakira vocal phrasing influence also shows up fairly blatantly in "I Believe". She's got a real good drummer, too. Have we talked much about how the Canadian and Australian definitions of "country" seem so much less stick-up-the-ass obsessed with "purity" and "tradition" than the US (by which I mean not just in alt-country but also in allegedy pop Nashville) definition? Not just my imagination, is it?

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, the acoustic version of "Slipping Away" is completely nuts and hilarious -- Opens with her clearing her throat, then Dahlia threatens to break his knees, cast a spell with her love potion, drug him up intravenouosly, and duct tape his lips and "not stop the viagra" until he'll live with her happily ever after even though "I know you're trying to out-whip me." The regular version rocks more, but this version has way better words. (Vibrato is in both, and may be as much Alanis as Shakira, seeing how Alanis is Canadian and all.)

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Both country songs on the *Rollergirl* soundtrack (Dale Watson "Way Down Texas Way" copyright 2004, Red Meat "The Girl With The Biggest Hair" copyright 1997 -- who are Red Meat?? "courtesy of Ranchero Records," it says) are a lot of fun. Also really like the disco funk song "Rollerderby World" by Jean Shy ("courtesy of concord music group" - some obscure oldie I guess?) and the Donnas and Donnas-like girl-glam tracks I just posted about on the metal and teenpop threads. (Best to just end before the final two tracks, though--some dumb Fat Possum hick shtick by Bob Log III, then seven minutes of Ani Difranco singing "Amazing Grace," though "singing" is maybe too nice.)

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Do the Australians count Jamie O'Neal as Australian? (I don't know how old she was when her family moved to Nevada, though it shouldn't be too hard to find out.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 3 February 2006 19:51 (twenty years ago)

edd, don, roy, anybody -- do any of you have a marshall chapman opinion i can borrow? i don't have one, or never have before anyway. i remember her having some fans in creem magazine in the late '70s/early '80s, but i can't remember why. press release for her horribly titled new album *mellowicious* tried to identify her as a proto-lucinda, which i didn't find promising, but then i put it on and the first couple tracks made me think more of carlene carter (feisty but effervescent), which i *did* find promising. but then the next several seemed more like a bland triple A coffeehouse, and i gave up (though one of them, "i'm just pitiful that way," did seem to take its melody from "love is strange" by mickey and sylvia.) anyway, should i quit while i'm ahead, or should i give her more of a chance?

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

You could borrow my opinion, only I don't have one. Chapman is a name I've heard a lot in the past but I own nothing by her, have some vague memory of "Somewhere South of Macon" but...Sorry totally unhelpful. And her new record hasn't shown up yet.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 3 February 2006 23:36 (twenty years ago)

What has shown up, though, is this Fern Jones reissue "Glory Road" which if I had heard last year might very well have knocked Poole out of my top reissue slot. Holy unholy honky tonk gospel bust out with Sugarfoot Garland playing like he wants Elvis to give him a fucking raise. More later.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 3 February 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

Been a long time since I listened to Marshall, but see http://www.robertchristgau.com Sometimes came on like a "female Outlaw": def female, fairly often outside the law, but too rock n rolly to fit with Willie and Waylon, and too preoccupied with her "pearshaped speedfreak boyfriends".Especially Dave Hickey, who also contributed songs. Choice tales and words of Guru Dave ("A quitter never loses and a loser never quits")can be found in Marshall's autobio, Goodbye Little Rock And Roller, which has a soundtrack too, but I haven't heard that. See her website for music and news, think it's http://www.marshallchapman.com/ but it's been a while. I can't find the Ballot comments section at the Scene site; anybody got the speecific URL for the comments??? Himes' essay touched on some of the same themes I covered last year, which is not a complaint; it's due to to the turgidity of American malaise, mayonnaise, and the country release schedule/strategy. (I wrote about "There's More Where That Came From" a year ago, and, pace Himes, there really ain't more; she said all she had to say then).Also, it's due to me being a quickdraw, yet hiding my light under the well-known bushel. Anyway, here's the URL for my comments on '04 (you might have to scroll down a little to get to mine, but it's worth it: http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_thefreelancementalists_archive.html

don, Saturday, 4 February 2006 05:12 (twenty years ago)

me on world music thread:

>Also, good article in Sunday's Times about perennial polka grammy winner Jimmy Sturr. I kinda can't stand Sturr's slicked-up sound; haven't really been keeping up with polka lately (a few years ago I listened to all five polka grammy nominees and my favorite was Eddie Blacsconszyk of Chicago, shown flipping panckaes on that particularly CD cover and also quoted in the Times article, but I haven't kept up since - -just did a cdbaby.com search for polkas and mainly what seemed to come up was joke bands or bands for the triple A alt-country crowd, which i don't THINK is what I want but I may be wrong.) Anyway, the article talks about how Sturr's east coast style (he's from Jersey) is actually quite Vegasy and big-bandy (though he's also known to get guest appearances by lots of country stars), where the Chicago style is more trumpet heavy and the Cleveland Slovenian style is where the accordions get emphasized. So maybe I should search "Cleveland polka," I'm not sure...

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Almost every polka band description on cdbaby.com seems to start with "this is not your father's (or grandpa's) polka." Not sure why that's considered a good thing (at least if your father or grandpa was a big fan of the Matys Bros and Frankie Yankovic's greatest hits.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

>-just did a cdbaby.com search for polkas and mainly what seemed to come up was joke bands or bands for the triple A alt-country crowd, which i don't THINK is what I want but I may be wrong<

actually, i just realized that something similar happens when I try to search there for "western swing." am i being deluded or romanticizing too much to wish that there were great bands playing this stuff, um, "for real" and not just ironic revivalists? are there? i'm sure there are (though I'm not sure how to define "real"); I'm just not sure how to find them.

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

i have some polka cds bought from perogy suppers, they host here, for fundraisers. you go to these things, and they have a table, with pysanka, embrodry, that sort of thing, and a few dusty tapes/books. its only been a few years that they have had cds--but its completely punk, just a bunch of eastern european senior jamming all the polka greats (i also learnt to polka this way, badly)

i dont even know how they record them, frankly.

i also have no idea how a ukranian polka would differ from lets say a hungrian or polish or rommanion.

so where you might need to get polka, is the new york equivlaent of a good old fashioned prarie supper

(the same thing with western swing, sort of---we get an old school country crooner, or the like here once or twice a year, at the pioneer house mostly, and its all the seniors, and their kids, nostalgia circuit sure, but fantastic if you can get it)

Anthony Easton, Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:07 (twenty years ago)

xp:

i mean i guess with both western swing and polka i want it to be fast catchy good-humored complicated highly rhythmic rocking dance music that doesn't seem to constantly pat itself on the back for BEING fast catchy good-humored complicated highly rhythmic rocking dance music (like, you know, when punk bands all the way back to brave combo decide to play polkas), which usually means it ISN'T. In 2006. this may well be a pipe dream; but in both genres, it used to come completely naturally. (i have always thought hot club of cowtown had promise, i guess -- am even a fan of their slowed down version of aerosmith's "chip away at the stone" - but they're totally wimps compared to what milton brown or roy newman or adolph hofner used to be. those guys wouldn't have given a shit about getting a rounder records audience, i don't think.) (interesting, what i'm looking for -- see above - -DOES still exist in southern soul music, though, apparently.)

>where you might need to get polka, is the new york equivlaent of a good old fashioned prarie supper<

ha ha, well, i am walking distance from Greenpoint! So maybe I should just take a walk!

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:19 (twenty years ago)

(or to put it another way, by hunting for good polka and western swing that have no connection to "alternative" culture in its many guises, am i stupidly hunting for an "authenticity" that doesn't exit?) (and i mean, jimmy sturr and eddie blazonscyzk have no connection with alternative culture, true. but even eddie just really isn't good enough.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I used to have those 3 Epic LPs from late '70s, Chuck. she was briefly a big deal 'round here. always struck me as a more liberal Tanya Tucker, maybe, or like someone who shoulda been on Stiff. proto-Lucinda, I dunno about that, I'm never a fan of Lucinda all that much except for the occasional pretty fair song she writes (and as an aside, I heard this P.F. Sloan album Jon Tiven's finishing up in N-ville, and the best thing on it was a duet with P.F. and Lucinda, so go figure). but Marshall covered Seger (so you might track that one down if you can find it, Chuck, it's "Jaded Virgin," but I haven't any idea if they're in print somewhere, and I'm constantly combing Nashvile for old country vinyl and don't recall seeing any of them lately) and Cash, I think, maybe it was "I Walk the Line," and one of her records was produced by Al Kooper, and if I recall it seemed a bit over-refined. I think her first Epic one was the best, tho, "Me, I'm Feeling Free" was the title. her new 'un hasn't hit here either.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 4 February 2006 17:03 (twenty years ago)

>Canadian and Australian definitions of "country" seem so much less stick-up-the-ass obsessed with "purity" and "tradition" than the US<

and yet both places still seem to have real cowboy music by real cowboys, hmmm...what a paradox!

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Chuck seek ye out Joni Harms, who is not only one of the biggest names in western swing but also grew up in my hometown and is the cousin of my best friend from high school. (She was "The Sweetheart of Clackamas County"! Also, she actually maintains a working farm in Oregon while raising two kids, so she doesn't have TIME to be pomo.) She WROTE "Cowboy Up," her album Let's Put the Western Back in the Country is dope and completely non-ironic. They have a big conference every year for western music with awards and everything, I'll try to find that link.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 4 February 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Here are some performers, maybe.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 4 February 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)

okay, i'll check those out, matt, thanks, but be aware (and to me this is important!) that "western" is not remotely the same as "western swing". (i want the JAZZ in it, see?) (which isn't to say joni harms doesn't have any; i dunno. I will try to listen to her; who knows?)

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

ha ha

http://www.westernmusic.org/performers.cfm?ID=18

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 19:44 (twenty years ago)

well of course there's the western swing x polkas of the Mollys, but you want something uncontaminated by alt: try searching on "Tex Czech." Speaking of Australian country, Cyndi Boste is coming to America this spring.Chuck captioned her "cowgirl of the Outback" for my Voice roundup, "Alias In Winderland, and she's a bluesy country singer-songwriter with a deep rich voice, kinda like a more dynamic Tracey Nelson. Probably bringing a very small group, if any (she doesn't really need one). Says she's wanting to play Austin and Nashville, asks for tips on clubs there and elsewhere. Anybody anywhere got any suggestions? Also, how do I get to those damn comments in the Nash Scene Poll?

don, Saturday, 4 February 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Don, here's where the comments for the Scene poll are located--I forget how to make the damn link clickable. what do I put in front of it? anyway, they're kind of hidden at the end of Himes's essay:
http://www.nashscene.com/Stories/Cover_Story/2006/01/19/It_Don_t_Feel_Like_Sinnin_to_Me/index1.shtml

has anyone attended to the Hank III second disc trainwreck enough to tell me what Wayne Hancock song (if it is a Wayne Hancock song, I dunno) Shelton Hank's doing in the midst of all that crap?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 5 February 2006 01:00 (twenty years ago)

Hi all,

Doing a list of best pop/rock covers by country artists. Any suggestions?

Kevin Coyne, Sunday, 5 February 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I listened to the dreadful second Hank III disc enough but can't help you because I don't know anything about Wayne Hancock. Dreadful may be too complimentary, too.

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 5 February 2006 18:16 (twenty years ago)

john Rich, *Underneath the Same Moon* -- coming out soonish, apparently, on Legacy/BNA; apparently this is the til now unreleased album he made after fleeing Lonestar and before hooking up with Big Kenny, Full of pale love ballads, often sung in an attempted Roy Orbison falsetto, it sounds like, but the guy really needed Big Kenny to help him find his personality (or provide him one). Opens with "I Pray For You," which wound up on the second B&R album and sounds even duller here. Not bad I guess: "She Brings the Lightnin' Down" (only marginally embarrassing funk attempt with gospel backup), "Something To Believe In" (opens with rock guitar riff; talks about an aging Hendrix fan with a 45, a preacher, a stockbroker, and a farmer, all looking for something to etc etc), and especially "Old Blue Mountain" (which John tries to root down in waltz tempo), and "New Jerusalem" (more blatant gospel, seemingly acapella). Not (even) as good as Big Kenny's solo album.

xhuxk, Sunday, 5 February 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)

xpost thanx for linx to Scene Poll Comments, Edd (good comments, guys.) Edd taped me that new Candi Staton, and I think most of it holds its own with her 72 self-titled, which is saying a lot. On both sets,though,sometimes she just goes with the flow of the medium slow tempi, rather than pushing against it, building momentum. But usually she rises to the occasion, and '72's "Do It In The Name Of Love" is the kind of downhome orchestral that always did leave 90 % of countrypolitan in the zircon dust. (It's also the kind that leaves the usual kind of downhome orcestral, and there's some of that here too.)xpost haven't heard the new Truckers yet; can well believe it's uneven, but have harder time believing that it's so xpost bad. Heard "Feb.14" on World Cafe a couple times: expansive guitar, bidding us all to come have some no-fun, and eventually, some analog synth, or bagpipes, or bagpipe guitar? Big Country's back! xpost haven't heard the new Hank III either. On Risin' Outlaw, he named Wayne Hancock as "my best friend out there," and covered three Wayne songs, road songs, like "Thunderstorms and Neon Signs." Wayne's a good writer, but seemed like (haven't heard him in a while) his own albums could lapse into bareassed/tightassed retro, while Risin' Outlaw kept building momentum Ditto subsequent (and almost all self-written) Lovesick Broke & Driftin'. No dawgshit on either. I suppose his twang could get too cartoony for some, but I think he and his daddy can be great cartoons, with sufficiently shaded-in realness,from a sharp pen (which is the way I think of Separation Sunday, and GnR, Dolls,Bowie, Stooges, Stones, James Brown, etc) (see cartoon refs in my Hank Jr./Hank III review, "The Last Poke Chop": http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0212,allred,33201,22.html/ and re III's cover of "Fearless Boogie" on the ZZ Top trib, in "Sharp Blessed Men": http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0344,tracker_writer.inc,39494,.html/
or if those links don't work see my whole Voice stash at Http://MyVil.blogspot.com/

don, Sunday, 5 February 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

The LA Times mag Phoned It In for a roll-out of its new design. A music feature called Mad Hot Music was packed to the gills with the usual assertions and descriptions that ask you to leave your natural detector of horseshit at the door. First off, repeating riff -- LA is a great place for people to wear cowboy hats. As in honky-tonk bars and great homegrown country acts. Now, I've lived here for over a decade, like it a lot, but am not a cheerleader. And I know one thing: If you see someone in club in a cowboy hat, you're in for a long night. And if you see one coming along the sidewalk toward you while walking the dog in the neighborhood -- you're on drugs and hallucinating.

"...track down one of these artists [or head to one of these bars] ... and listen for yourself. Then you'll hear a remarkable sound: Music made for music's sake.

The Cowboy Palace Saloon {in the San Fernando Valley]

"Bordered by Bully's Billiards, a strip club and a liquor store, the Cowboy Palace Saloon calls itself 'the last real Honky Tonk' and it's true to its word ... The Asian cowboy beside me played a harmonica softly to himself, and a man in Wrangler jeans and a 10-gallon hat strummed air guitar on his pool cue.'

Mo' Cowboy Hats

Bruce Burton with King Size

"Great music often sweeps in on the tails of reinvention. Enter Bruce Burchmore, who was born in Bangkok ... and landed at USC to study music history. He mastered the lute...A little more than a year ago, after a painful breakup, Burchmore took his guitar to Manhattan, where he holed up in a hotel for 10 days, writing music and wallowing in melancholy.

"When he emerged he was Bruce Burton, country singer, and he had in his hands the makings of a fine album. Back in LA, he assembled the skeleton of Uncle Cowboy, a band of uncanny talent, which has since been renamed King Size.

"But he isn't the only member of King Size who takes his sorrow straight up...Witness an early memory of Easy Pickens, the band's guitarist, who as a teenager lived in a basement in a bad Vancouver neighborhood. 'I'd just put on a Hank Williams record,' he says, 'skip all the happy songs and drink myself to sleep.'"

Awwww. The only thing missing is the tin of snuff in back pocket.


George the Animal Steele, Monday, 6 February 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)

Any opinions on Asleep at the Wheel? I can't remember if I've ever heard them. As of midyear '05 Elizabeth McQueen was singing for them.

(P.S. I wrote Elizabeth McQueen telling her I liked the liner notes to Happy Doing What We're Doing a lot and that I wanted her to continue writing about music. The liner notes just made me want to smooch her. (I didn't say this in the email. And the cover photo also had something to do with the desire to smooch.) There's a brain in there, both in her singing and in her commentary. (A brain worth smooching.) Anyway, she was complimented that a writer would want her to write, but she felt she'd probably not want to be a critic while still putting her own music out there, that this would inhibit her. "It's fine to write about the good, but when you get down to the meat and potatoes of criticsm, which is being critical..." A brain, for sure. Maybe we could get her to write about electronica, which she says she's into.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 6 February 2006 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Natalie right that country isn't her, and the blowup was bound to happen sooner or later, and country needs people telling it that it's fucked. And she can surely draw on plenty of great sound and form from other genres, and her voice is dynamite. (Everyone compared Miranda to that blowhard Gretchen, but it's Natalie's cracking-whip and Natalie's warmth that Miranda's got.) But because country wasn't her, this meant that her voice had an uneasy push to it, and the push wasn't into the comfort of alt-land, either. Whereas if she's now just another Sheryl or Bonnie, maybe she'll lose the push. (Or maybe she won't, or maybe if she loses it, that's fine.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Anyone heard the pre-Natalie Chicks?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Asleep at the Wheel -- music for fluffy-feeling truckers. Like Commander Cody without "Hot Rod Lincoln" or "It Should've Been Me" or, really the Commander himself. Hmm, never really liked Asleep at the Wheel but times have changed, maybe I would like them with Elizabeth McQueen.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 6 February 2006 21:37 (twenty years ago)

Asleep at the Wheel did a pretty good Hot Rod Lincoln!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Early 70s Wheel albums were good, fairly tough-minded, and some 80s ones xgau's got on his site, prob, but I only know that orig lineup.xpostp pre-Nat Chicks: yeah, seems like they were winsome but mild, and if only I'd kept those albums, and eBayed them about five years ago (they're prob not getting such big bids now, I suspect). I've got an album by Domestic Science Club, with one of the dumped Chicks; winsome but not so mild, heartfelt, anyway, if well-mannered, and maybe I underrated those Chicks albums. Natalie's dad Lloyd was in the Maines Brothers Band, which I think may've started with his father and uncles, or anyway was kinda trad, and then of course he was in the Joe Ely Band when they toured with the Clash,and plays some some guitar army steel on there, kind of in there between Speedy West and 90s/00s non-steel Skyn country (and also predating the steel player in Dylan's early 90s road band, whose live solos on "Highway 61" extended the police siren on the orig studio version).And Lloyd has produced Pat Green and lots and lots of others, incl Chicks. So she grew up with various motor trends in Texas country (and also gushed about her childhood collection of James Taylor albums, when he and the Chicks did their Crossroads, z-z-z-z). So I can see how she doesn't feel dependant on Nashville bizdom,especially since she got enough money from it. Hey, anybody know who arranged Glenn Campbell's version of "By The Time I Get To Phoenix"? Allmusic lists Jimmie Haskell, Mort Garson, and Leon Russell as arrangers on the By The Time etc.LP. I'm thinking Garson, who did a lot of art pop, but maybe not. So eerie bright and calm, if guilty (he sees how she'll gradually realize he's really gone this time), that Top Fortydelica '67 thing.

don, Monday, 6 February 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

from metal AND world music threads:

So, "Politcas Ratas" on the new El Tri album *Mas Alla Del Bien Y Del Mal* sounds like a nicely barbecued '70s ZZ Top rip, but I don't think there's much else on the CD. Lots of '50s rock'n'roll revival, one song that reminds me of "Rockin' in the Free World," I dunno what else. I think this is like their 50th album though, so maybe there's a kick-ass greatest hits album somewhere down in Mexico. Or maybe not.

xhuxk, Monday, 6 February 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

for Glen, isn't it Al DeLory who's the arranger?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)

Weren't El Tri supposed to be scarydelic when they started as Three Souls On My Mind? Edd, allmusic didn't mention Al, but that's fairly typical; I'll try googling his name, thanks.

don, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Al DeLory is your man, Don. He also arranged "Gentle On My Mind" and "Wichita Lineman" if memory serves. A little factoid: DeLory and Campbell were both Wrecking Crew men.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 02:47 (twenty years ago)


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