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thankyou stirmonster, - OMG what a great track!

― tunes, Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

4. Chicken Lips-Sweet Cow (Lindstrom Mix)

can someone YSI this?

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Stir! Even that one sounds like a balaeric Motorhead!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm just waiting for someone to make their career by doing a really killer José González remix, something really thick-sounding and warm, like Junip I guess but obviously with actual beats, warm fat acousticy synths that wash over you, folktronic tracks that set the stage for the bigtime toms, or something.

Also, someone should mashup "Maps" with some José G, somehow, and make us lame indie kids' year.

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

the quiet village records are all re-edits btw. it's been discussed at length on djhistory. some people slightly miffed that it's packaged more like original material. my fav, pillowtalk is alan parsons i forget who else.

some of my favorite unexpected things that have popped up on the cosmic mixes from the tiscali site:

jj cale at 45
dave mason - wervin' (with r. wyatt on vocals) (you can dl another track from that lp as my track of the day at the newly minted http://www.dreamchimney.com/tracks/profile/captain it'll be up 'til monday). there's a few other dudes on there that post some great stuff if you don't know.
art of noise - paranoia
papa's got a brand new pigbag at 33

as far as that campfire mix, i guess it's kind of "rad" that they left all their crap mixes and skips and yanking all the volume levels up and down in there, but it's pretty unlistenable to my ears. they play some great stuff, no doubt, but it doesn't have much continuity for home listening. i'm sure it was a different story if you were there and i'm sure those guys could give a fuck...

i much prefer the piles of baldelli and loda mixes currently on my hd (courtesy of the tiscali site, where all the flyers came from). check out baldelli's interview at
http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/LECTURERS.95.0.html too. great stuff.

the capone's saturday schedule now is as follows:

1st saturday: k. life walks + friends - tons of connects in the mid-late 80's miami bass scene. him and a bud did the tape edits on the beat club "security". nowadays he plays sweet disco and club classics.

2nd saturday (tonight) get into somethin' w/doug lee aka lee douglass + duane (negroclash). plus twilite tone and a live performance by black spade this week.

3rd saturday me (jeremy campbell) + guests. this week matt radune.

4th saturday: cabaret featuring escort (dan balis, eugene cho and darius mahgen who have a record coming out on environ). darshan from metro area plays with them this month.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:27 (twenty years ago)

i might add that the best part of the baldelli interview is the face he makes when he's playing harry thumann underwater at 33 and briefly switches to normal speed to show how terrible it sounds...

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:37 (twenty years ago)

I like that song at any speed!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:44 (twenty years ago)

are you playing "dirty lovin" out, stir? great track. it reminds me of led zeppelin a bit.

i am listening to the dj loda mix that dan linked to above now. cosmic is definitely the right word!! excellent set...

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:14 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea what any of this stuff is but I like it. DJ harvey is here in SF soon, i think.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:15 (twenty years ago)

it's tonight...

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

...oh

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)

'underwater' is mega at the right speed. and breakfast pants, i've been playing the 'dirty lovin' out lots, well in glasgow anyway.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 15 January 2006 00:13 (twenty years ago)

hey, could be off-topic but for those of you at home right now (in the US), Escape From New York is playing on the Spike network on cable.

i play this soundtrack a lot, but i've never seen the film. needless to say, tv volume is real high right now.

i don't know if that's "beardo house", but Carpenter certainly falls within that bumrocksy "LES dollar bin" aesthetic.

― titty sanskrit (sanskrit), Sunday, 15 January 2006 01:04 (twenty years ago)

If only Carpenter had made a disco record! Or even better a disco record and film starring Kurt Russell. I guess the Escape From New York soundtrack has his highest beat content.

I have an Escape From LA UK 12" of drum and bass versions of the theme in my out pile at the minute. It's crap.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 01:19 (twenty years ago)

Carpenter gets total props from the italo fiends. The End Credits were listed in last years top 100 all-time at the Cybernetic Broadcasting System.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 January 2006 02:18 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, it was on one of the Serie Noir comps as well.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 January 2006 02:34 (twenty years ago)

movie was good. so i'm still a little unclear about this "beardo house" thing. Sounds like something undefined we wish we existed rather than an actual movement that is out there gaining momentum.

there's this italo/kosmiche/random obscuro DJing approach, then the Pica Pica Pica/Lift Boys/BD Cone Toaster/3xc3pt3r (dubious) beatmaking. I see them existing in parallel, but it's frustrating how they won't meet.

where is the point of common origin? Gottsching?

― titty sanskrit (sanskrit), Sunday, 15 January 2006 03:58 (twenty years ago)

I've got a Rub 'n' Tug mix CD sitting around- a promo for the aNYthing clothing line, I think. It's got a lot of the same problems as the Eskimo mix (dropouts, sloppy mixing, etc.) but it's great nonetheless. I'll get a YSI up if anyone's interested.

― telephone thing, Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:01 (twenty years ago)

that's just it, it's very vague. The tracklisting of the original Cosmic mixes include new wave, 80s pop, disco, kosmiche/krautrock, whatever. It's more about the vibe, man. I see that as being separate though from what I think of as Idjust/Harvey type thing which is more about drugged out disco meets classic rock kind of thing. Maybe it's just the order in which I was exposed to various things, but I never heard anyone talking about Cosmic before the italo revival, which is only peripherally related.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)

the bar i have a night at has built up a relationship with harvey, so we get him in 4 or 5 times a year, by the end of the night you've heard a billion kajillion tracks you'd kill to own. people love it when he does it, but to be honest, most of these records don't work when i play them, much as i love them. guess that's why he gets the big bucks.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:50 (twenty years ago)

not to be too cynical, but I'd say there's a lot to the "cult of the DJ" kinda thing. I mean, if the party is right, if the crowd is right, if I've learned anything, half the time the music is like, the 5th or 6th most important factor to a good time. I've seen Harvey play to empty rooms just like the rest of us...I mean, if a crowd comes for him, they'll be into it, but that's not always the case.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 January 2006 05:00 (twenty years ago)

a YSI of that rub n' tug mix would be great, telephone thing. thx for the offer!

― rajeev (rajeev), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:53 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like something undefined we wish we existed rather than an actual movement that is out there gaining momentum.

But that's the best kind of movement! And all we need to do is get someone to write an article and then it'll be real! I might do it for Stylus.

Carpenter gets total props from the Italo fiends.

I knew this, I was just started imagining if he made a disco concept album with vocals (by famous people) and stuff. Someone should do a Broadway musical of Escape from New York or They Live.

I'd love a YSI Telephone Thing.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Also, I have a beard. What does the beard itself signify or mean? That's the key.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 13:57 (twenty years ago)

If only Carpenter had made a disco record!

you NEED this album: Unit Black Flight - Infiltration and Extraction

― Yawn (Wintermute), Sunday, 15 January 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

(haha i knew i had done a thread on this topic before. took me forever to find because of the crappy title)

― Yawn (Wintermute), Sunday, 15 January 2006 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Looks cool if ltd. (Which is why I'm d/ling from slsk. Oh well.)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

I thought I would share this Quiet Village Song,

Also, does Betty Botox fit into this Beardo Disco?

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 15 January 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

i thin betty botox is transsexual disco. she does have a wee bit of facial hair though.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 15 January 2006 19:46 (twenty years ago)

think.

time for a new eyboard!

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 15 January 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm having trouble figuring out the Tiscali site linked to above. The mixes and flyers all bring up "you do not have permission ... " messages, and the "Members Only" link just brings up an email to the administrator .... is there some kind of a sign-up? Am I just being dense? Thnx in advance. I'd like to hear some of those mixes.

― Renard (Renard), Sunday, 15 January 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)

http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2QL6VN3HR2UPG0VNF03E5NP9QN
here's the link for Quiet Village Project-Too High To Move

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 15 January 2006 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Can someone please post some more of these elusive treats? i'm itchin to hear 'black skin, blue eyed boys', and 'bb gun' + 'rodeo' by Bobby Marie - can't find them anywhere. Thnx in advance.

― johnny jones, Sunday, 15 January 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)

here's the dub of bobbie marie's 'bb gun'. it's kind of dumb, but i like it.

i don't have 'black skin, blue eyed boys' digitised.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 15 January 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)

black skin blue eyed boys was over at http://www.thefutureisprimitive.blogspot.com/
for a bit. i'm sure if you leave comment for a re-up mikey will oblige

― jaime, Sunday, 15 January 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

just so you don't all think i'm crazy, i wasn't saying i thought underwater was crap at normal speed. i do think i like it slightly better slowed though. i dunno, it probably depends on the context in which it's played. film 2 by grauzone on the other hand, is probably the best example i can think of of a song that sounds more normal slowed down than at the right speed.

for those who absolutely need an id for something from one of those mixes, if you yousendit a clip and post it on djhistory, you can usually get an answer pretty quick. the most extensive cosmic threads on there mostly happened back in '03, so those guys have had the time to figure a lot of it out. it's only failed me once...

they also had a thread on beards recently.
http://www.djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13672

the relationship between italo disco and the cosmic scene, if you believe baldelli, was pretty nil. he says he didn't like or follow much of that stuff and was much more into the german electronic stuff. i think he said sky was his favorite label in that red bull interview.

for the tiscali site, you have to email the guy for a password. you may also have to download the opera browser if you aren't handy with ftp.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:07 (twenty years ago)

firstworldman wrote "to be honest, most of these records don't work when i play them, much as i love them. guess that's why (harvey) gets the big bucks."

i think somebody once said, "it's not what you say, it's how you say it"

applies equally to djing i'd say.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:13 (twenty years ago)

of course the stuff dan mentions also applies. i'm sure it doesn't hurt him that he often plays big rooms of people expecting to hear harveyesque tunes. i'm guessing it's a long road (involving plenty of empty rooms) to get to that point.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:21 (twenty years ago)

Here's a Quiet Village mix linked in a recent Eskimo mailout. It's YSI, not a direct link, since I can't find the old email, but I'll post the link if I find it.

― telephone thing, Monday, 16 January 2006 03:49 (twenty years ago)

Ah, never mind, I missed the earlier upload on the YSI thread. Use this one if the earlier one uses up its allotted bandwidth, I guess.

― telephone thing, Monday, 16 January 2006 04:00 (twenty years ago)

film 2 by grauzone on the other hand, is probably the best example i can think of of a song that sounds more normal slowed down than at the right speed

otm. i much prefer it slowed down. not part of the cosmic thang but probably the most famous example of a song being slowed down and then becoming massive as a result is 'flesh' by a split second which was actually re released in its' 33.333 + 8 version.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 16 January 2006 04:39 (twenty years ago)

where can i buy a copy of the rub'n'tug mix?

― francis izzy stradlin deth, Monday, 16 January 2006 06:55 (twenty years ago)

a split second is new beat right? i guess that probably wasn't the only thing that got slowed down in those clubs.

so, aside from jim burgess, i can't think of many examples of american djs doing the 45 @ 33 thing back in the day. anyone know of any other examples. i wonder if that would have happened more if it was more common to press 12"s at 45 here.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Monday, 16 January 2006 08:29 (twenty years ago)

"not part of the cosmic thang ..."

but some of the other new beat records were part of the cosmic thang? I listened to that Tutu mix yesterday and was surprised to hear Logic System and Carlos Peron one after the other.

― Renard (Renard), Monday, 16 January 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)

what's the story, that New Beat was heavily influenced by playing that A Split Second song slowed down? They were like an industrial band, Parralax View was a favorite of mine for a week or two. Now I prefer the movie.

I think the Cosmic thing was about whatever the hell fit. There's also crossover with the WBMX DJs, who certainly play faster and more italo-disco, but also play a lot of the new wave/pop oddities that show up in the Cosmic mixes as well.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:58 (twenty years ago)

belgian dj marc grouls started playing 'flesh' at 33.3 and it had such an impact that all the djs started looking for tracks they could play slowed down until they decided it was easier to start producing their own - hence new beat.

i think the fact that most european 12"s are pressed at 45rpm as graham gouldman mentions is a big factor. i think djs all over europe have always done this. the reverse also happened - when the first breakbeat rave records (eg shut up and dance) started coming out, there were so few of them that it became common to play instrumentals of us hip hop records at 45 to fill out a set. i still play schoolly d instrumentals at 45 instead of 33.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

eg - schooly d's 'freestyle cutting' @ 45rpm

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

schooly d's@ 45rpm

interesting... i can't say it really makes me feel like dancing. maybe in the right time and place - or with the right drugs.

i have to say it's much easier for me to like something slowed than sped up, but that just makes it more satisfying to find something that works sped up. i was messing around with the break from james gang funk #49 today. sounds pretty nice at 45 and then there's a pause at the end where the guitar comes back in where you can switch it back to 33 without being able to tell. some dj somewhere has to have figured that one out before though.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 06:10 (twenty years ago)

thinking more about it, i'm realizing that, aside from the speed, what appeals to me about slowing stuff is the relative fidelity. if something is too slick sounding, slowing it dirties it up a bit. maybe it's all in my head, but, especially with a lot of digital recordings, i feel like taking it down from 16 bit to maybe 12 or so can make a world of difference.

conversely, with speeding things up, you get this condensed, almost shimmery or polished feel. a bit disconcerting sometimes.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 06:18 (twenty years ago)

YES PLEASE

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 06:28 (twenty years ago)

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haha!

thanks for the hypno dance LG, loved that one

― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:51 (one year ago)

It is so great! Takes me back to a lot of good nights out.

And hi table! I have been on the Elden Ring thread a bit but eventually had to pop in here for some Harvey discussion, keeping it positive, lol.

― LocalGarda, Thursday, 22 August 2024 22:01 (one year ago)

probably for the best lol

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 August 2024 23:30 (one year ago)

one month passes...

yo LocalGarda do you still go clubbing? my friends for that kinda stuff have fallen away drastically.

― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 27 September 2024 10:13 (one year ago)

lol didn't realise I was reviving a month old thread for that, just had it bookmarked

― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 27 September 2024 10:13 (one year ago)

Not so often but I am going to see Harvey tomorrow night actually. Not sure how long I'll be there for as various factors conspiring against me but this also means I'll plan another night out before Xmas as I'd like a decent jaunt on a weekend when I can maybe take the Monday off.

― LocalGarda, Friday, 27 September 2024 13:01 (one year ago)

one year passes...

banned from the army!

― 龜, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 14:22 (eight months ago)

https://i.discogs.com/OhWS2W8Xn3pD9e_JjAhgWnrHnrecoYJzK-CQT7ywZ3w/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTQ1MjUy/LTE1NDE3MTU0MjUt/NDkzMi5qcGVn.jpeg

― brimstead, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 14:59 (eight months ago)

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFg9gOJhrWw

― A moron shaped fool (Craig D.), Wednesday, 25 February 2026 01:47 (three months ago)

Haha--whoops, meant to post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfUvzLRa3Ew

― A moron shaped fool (Craig D.), Wednesday, 25 February 2026 01:47 (three months ago)

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kUy40ipBhynOu1fsY_zqwBlV_7CT07oB4

― A moron shaped fool (Craig D.), Wednesday, 25 February 2026 01:49 (three months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UptsdsLoErs

Bojan Marović - Alibi

Big Crispy

― saer, Sunday, 1 March 2026 19:42 (three months ago)

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