― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:41 (twenty years ago)
When I liked him I was a stupid young person who didn't know shit about music, like many of you. Now I am slightly less stupid and know three things about music, one of them being that John Fahey, like Minimalism, is boring. What's so interesting and hip about a guy who plays repetitious music like he's got no soul? He's a defanged, emasculated, sterile copycat of MS John Hurt. John Fahey Is Boring.
Oh, and thanks for posting Fahey's own words. What a bag of hot air. Thank god he's dead!
― valdemar (nubbin), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:55 (twenty years ago)
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)
― valdemar (nubbin), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:13 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)
― valdemar (nubbin), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)
Fahey produced an impressive variety of stuff and my feelings about it vary. If I'm not in the mood for Hitomi maybe I want to hear his dixieland stuff, or A Raga Called Pat, or The Oregon Capital Inn blah blah - he did a lot of different stuff! Seriously! And yet, maybe this is all my imaginings and projections, but I can sense the same determination behind it, the clear-headed, straight up emotionality and that killer sense of humour. Even (especially) with his writing. More than any one of his styles, or his status as an innovator or whatever, I'm mostly in love with the wonderful personality I feel behind it all. And when I listen to Sun Gonna Shine In My Backdoor Someday Blues I'm not listening to, as he describes it, a bitonal piece played in a John Hurt, ragtime finger-picking pattern style, I'm listening to... I don't know, something much trickier to word. More than any other music I feel this with Fahey. When I first heard him just after I turned 18 I was blown away by how ridiculously intuitive it seemed - it was so obvious, I couldn't believe I ever bothered with other music.
A lot of what's written about Fahey to convince you of his IMPORTANCE talks about how he was the first to do X or an exciting blend of country blues, 20th century classical, indian classical... blah blah. To me at least, it doesn't sound like that and it wouldn't be nearly as interesting if it did. All that seems incidental. The way I hear it (and I appreciate the subjectivity of all this), Fahey is trying to get to SOMETHING and all the technical details are just his way of getting to it. I guess that's it anyway, it's why I feel the same sorts of things listening to such a diverse range of music. It's not the language he's developed, but what he's saying with it.
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― Excelsior Syndrum (noodle vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)
I'm so fucking proud of throwing that rock into the pond.
Those little waves just marched around in their own order, but in no way that anyone could have predicted.
Even though the pond got back to equilibrium in about 10 seconds, I have to say that, for a small while, I was fucking make waves in that pond. I threw the rock, the waves happened, they ended, and it was because of me.
Fuck you, pond. I would never hesitate to throw another rock in you.
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)
And Leo Kotke rules so watch it, pals.
― !~~~~11@@, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)
― Excelsior Syndrum (noodle vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)
-- Dom iNut (do...), January 10th, 2006.
By the way, that's really beautiful.
― ~~~~~, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)
― Excelsior Syndrum (noodle vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)
― Excelsior Syndrum (noodle vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― imbidimts, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)
― imbidimts, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)
I'm no one to define soul, and I'm not defending John Fahey, but isn't repetitious music (chanting, drone, prayers, etc.) used all around the world in order for an individual to get in touch with their soul, subconcious, self, inner state, etc.?
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)
Only if you like it it's good
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)
― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)
― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:34 (twenty years ago)
Does this help?
http://www.furious.com/perfect/fahey/fahey-byron.htmlhttp://www.furious.com/perfect/fahey/fahey-byron2.html
― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)
― imbidimts, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)
This says 11/94:http://www.folklib.net/index/discog/f/fahey2_john.shtml
― TRG (TRG), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:37 (twenty years ago)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:49 (twenty years ago)
I'm not as keen on Reprise era Fahey as there's a lot of not particularly inspired trad jazz tunes and what not, although Of Rivers And Religion has plenty of admirers and one or two great tracks (the version of Funeral Song For Mississippi John Hurt is so jerky in parts I worry about whiplash). It makes sense that Christgau would disagree though and if you are aligned with his more populist approach (?) you might too. The Yellow Princess and Of Rivers And Religion are well worth getting though, and The Yellow Princess is being reissued soon with 3 bonus never-before-heard demo tapes including some sort of early version of Fare Forward Voyagers, I believe.
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:32 (twenty years ago)
no.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:36 (twenty years ago)
there is massive internal struggle in the john fahey catalog, with sometimes gorgeous and sometimes disastrous results.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 22:46 (twenty years ago)
As for the other two things I learned about music, here they are:
1. Never trust a musician with any sort of beard
2. Stay away from anything Pitchfork says is good.
Props out to Mr. Roundtrouser: your winsome earnestness has warmed my heart and given me pause. Irony is the badge of the defeated!
― valdemar (nubbin), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 23:04 (twenty years ago)
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)
#define NUM_VALDEMAR_HUGGLEZ 2112
tValdemarHugglez* pValdemarHugglez = new tValdemarHugglez[NUM_VALDEMAR_HUGGLEZ];
for (int i = 0; i < NUM_VALDEMAR_HUGGLEZ; ++i){
pValdemarHugglez[i].fBeard = g_BeardDatabase[BEARD_DATABASE_INDEX + i];
pValdemarHugglez[i].fPitchforkReview = g_PitchforkReviewDatabase[POSITIVE_REVIEWS][PFORK_POZ_REVIEW_DATABASE_INDEX + i];
printf("Valdemar loves the %s beard and thinks the %s review is groovy %lt;3\n", pValdemarHugglez[i].fBeard.GetStr(), pValdemarHugglez[i].fPositiveReview.GetStr()); }
printf("I <3 valdemar!!!! lol omg !!!!!1\n");}
printf("Goodbye, world\n");g_fucked = 1;free(NULL);
― Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:12 (twenty years ago)
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:21 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:24 (twenty years ago)
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 00:38 (twenty years ago)
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 02:39 (twenty years ago)
...
i wonder if there are ILM trolls who just try to bait me sometimes, but i realize that would be impossible.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 02:45 (twenty years ago)
― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 04:01 (twenty years ago)
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 04:27 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 04:47 (twenty years ago)
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 07:31 (twenty years ago)
Then again Tom Lehrer wipes Malmsteen.
Game over, man.
― Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 07:35 (twenty years ago)
― valdemar (nubbin), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 07:39 (twenty years ago)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DRz5c2qEVZZ/
^ Gwenifer Raymond plays Fahey's restored Recording King
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 4 December 2025 09:06 (six months ago)
more photos of it here...
https://www.instagram.com/p/DRz83SFkbzF/
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 4 December 2025 09:10 (six months ago)
Wondering if this holiday season is the time to finally rip off the band aid and do the Fahey Artist Poll. 🤔
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 19 December 2025 19:36 (six months ago)
Womblife for the album win.
― hey man, smell my finger, then another finger, then cigarette (WmC), Friday, 19 December 2025 21:17 (six months ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 30 December 2025 03:05 (five months ago)
fascinating / weird / never-republished Fahey essay from 1974 — PERFORMANCE AS WAR.
https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/809718226768609280/john-fahey-performance-as-war
― tylerw, Friday, 27 February 2026 20:33 (three months ago)
wow, amazing find. love the comic art
a coworker recently GAVE my partner a john fahey painting because he knew i was a huge fan. obviously became my christmas present. its insanely cool to have this
https://i.imgur.com/4grlFJP.jpeg
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 27 February 2026 20:49 (three months ago)
nice, that is greatand yeah, the MAD magazine-style art for the essay is perfect haha.
― tylerw, Friday, 27 February 2026 20:52 (three months ago)
xp wow
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Friday, 27 February 2026 20:56 (three months ago)
xp Have you framed it? Please don't tell me it lives in a manila folder
― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Friday, 27 February 2026 21:41 (three months ago)
absolutely framed! have a semi-temporary setup right now and am looking into UV protected glass because who knows what kind of paint he was using and how/if it holds up. (the paper is a torn-out page from a journal article about mary queen of scots)
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 27 February 2026 22:55 (three months ago)
Was this posted anywhere?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPqmYjMC9k
― change a word make a third (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 May 2026 18:35 (one month ago)