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You don't want to support Bob Mould because he doesn't like it when you give away his album for free?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

hart is playing with a great band called the Shut-Ins who i've heard on myspace and are supposed to be really great.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost - not at all, but going after fans who have supported him heavily in the past seems a little shortsighted to me. he is not missy elliott and hte folks interested in hearing hew music early are by and large the die-hard fans of old. i felt a lot of fandom towards him, but I just can't after reading his comments about fans getting free music. but this means that if the product is good and i happen to hear it i may buy it, but i'm not going to spend time recommending or pursuing his stuff anymore esp. since output has been mediocre at best for years.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

It's apples to oranges, but I've always kinda seen it like bringing a camera to a show. If Bob Mould told me that I couldn't take pictures during his show, i'd say fine, whatever, even though I would have no intention of selling the pictures anywhere.

I don't know if I'm going to buy any of his new records because I don't think I like the "Sugar meets Cher" direction he's gone toward.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 14 July 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

someone defend nova mob. go on do it!

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 July 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

I was just lisetning to zen arcade clips on tower reccords .com, (a thing always forget about) - you're right, they are hardcore. I imagined more like sugar. They sound likea demon is attacking.

not sure what exactly we all mean by "hardcore" here, but i'd say the huskers were hardcore when they started and were pretty damn close to anti-hardcore by the time they got to zen arcade. catchy verse-chorus-verse songwriting, some hippie sentiment and emotion, a bit of acoustic guitar, some piano, some psychedelic guitar jamming. it's hardcore tempered by a newfound love of mid-'60s beatles and byrds. check out: "pink turns to blue," "never talking to you again," "one step at a time," "turn on the news," "something i learned today," for starters. then see if you still think it's a hardcore album. or a pop album with low-budget hardcore production.

subsequent albums got progressively more poppy. and better produced. sometimes for the better, but sometimes not.

and, yes, do check out "makes no sense at all" from flip your wig, which was a year or so later.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)

Nova Mob was fine, tho Grant himself said that they ran out of money when they mixing the 1st album. They remixed it and were going to release it on Pachyderm(the label Grant's last solo album came out on) when the label owner's wife ran off with the investor, and that was that.

but the tapes exist, somewhere.

kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

They were hardcore as long as they put their little symbol on the record somewhere. And they were always punk. I don't get the production complaints, but then I think the song "Everything Falls Apart" sounds perfect the way it is, and I'm an '80s kid.

"Sugar meets Cher": Had the pleasure of seeing Mould spin at a gay club in Minneapolis on Pride weekend two weeks ago, and it felt like a new genre. Still waiting for him to post the set list (here's an older one):
http://blowoff.us/set%206-11-05.html

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Nova Mob has some good stuff - Little Miss Understanding, Last Days of Pompeii, and (ESP) the EPIC - Shoot Your Way To Freedom (I have the orig. 7 inch jackets that apparently the Nova Mob boys took out and actually shot with rifles, they have bullet holes in them)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

http://www.thenortonsrestaurant.com/2006-03-31_Nortons_-_57.jpg

I want to eat at Greg Norton's restaurant!

Has anyone eaten at Greg Norton's restaurant?

dr. phil, Thursday, 4 February 2010 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

I recommend the bass.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2010 19:33 (sixteen years ago)

i think side b of flip yr wig is one of the best sides of a rekkid

Anton Levain (jdchurchill), Thursday, 4 February 2010 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

I prefer the first: "Games" (my favorite HD song if I'm in the mood), "Makes No Sense at All," "Hate Paper Doll," "Little Green Eyes," the title track...

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

I still think that mustache is a paste-on

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

mustache=real
seems like a good spread

Anton Levain (jdchurchill), Thursday, 4 February 2010 23:22 (sixteen years ago)

This made my day.

clemenza, Thursday, 4 February 2010 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

Anyone else think "Hare Krishna" sounds like "I want candy," the bow wow wow version?

Mister Jim, Friday, 5 February 2010 07:47 (sixteen years ago)

The new Grant Hart LP has some great tunes on it once you get past how dashed-off the whole thing sounds. "Charles Hollis Jones" is insanely catchy.

TastySounds, Friday, 5 February 2010 11:59 (sixteen years ago)

Barbara is the most memorable track for me (so far)

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 5 February 2010 12:13 (sixteen years ago)

A good new Grant Hart record? That sounds very enticing. I still love Intolerance, his debut from uh, 20 years ago.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 5 February 2010 13:05 (sixteen years ago)

two good grant hart records since Intolerance: Good News for Modern Man and Hot Wax.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 5 February 2010 13:27 (sixteen years ago)

I recommend the bass.

A+

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 5 February 2010 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

yeah hot wax is good, "California Zephyr" is great too

i get mines the fast way, the balaclava way (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 5 February 2010 16:07 (sixteen years ago)

the highlights of good news and intolerance, however, are far superior to the highlights of hot wax. hart's still a brilliant songwriter, tho.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 5 February 2010 16:11 (sixteen years ago)

i friend of mine recorded about half of hot wax and basically that project was recorded over a looooong period of time, different studios, very erratically and i think while it's good it definitely feels like a hodgepodge because it is a hodgepodge

i get mines the fast way, the balaclava way (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 5 February 2010 16:30 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...
one year passes...

husker du are fucking BRILLIANT why haven't they received a proper reissue campaign yet, they are still seriously underrated + undervalued, except maybe for Zen Arcade. FLIP YOUR WIG is their best imo. their records need to be remastered for cd/digital because they sound like thin garbage. on vinyl they're ROCKIN though

spazzmatazz, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Oh there's many issues as to why they haven't been remastered.

You should vote in the FORGET THE ROLLING STONE CANON HERE IS ILM'S HARD STICK OF 1980'S ROCK POLL ALBUMS/TRACKS VOTING THREAD. (Voting closes September 20) (all welcome to vote inc Lurkers)

VOTE in the 1980's ROCK POLL PLEASE! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

what issues? legal? the band?

spazzmatazz, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

pretty much

VOTE in the 1980's ROCK POLL PLEASE! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Can't say why I know just yet, but reissues are closer to happening than you think.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah rumor I heard was way cool and bigger than expected

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

please god let this be true

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

At this point, "bigger than expected" = "happening at all."

Sunn? Sunn? It's your cousin, Marvin O))) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

numero group box set?

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

[just trying to start rumors of my own, i have no idea]

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

Who cares about that, just remember to vote in FORGET THE ROLLING STONE CANON HERE IS ILM'S HARD STICK OF 1980'S ROCK POLL ALBUMS/TRACKS VOTING THREAD. (Voting closes September 20) (all welcome to vote inc Lurkers)

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

i heard bob mould was helming the remastering and box set project and leaving all of grant hart's tracks off since he didn't really contribute much to the band, according to mould's autobiography

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

hahahahahahahahahaahaahahaha

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

gatefold double LP remasters 180 gram vinyl

omar little, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

hell yeah full catalog reissue and remaster i bet, fuck fuck fuck yeah

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)

thx ilx

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)

greg norton sex tpe

Intent to Distribute (buzza), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:50 (thirteen years ago)

I did wonder if there was a likelihood after the Sugar remasters. But did think that interpersonal feeling inside the band might mean this unlikely.
Well will certainly grab a few of these if they appear.

Hopefully they'll reprint the Land Speed Record inner again. So I can look through the list of bands and think how few I've heard of.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 10:09 (thirteen years ago)

the song titles on LSR are some of my favorites ever: "Push the Button," "Let's Go Die," "Guns at My School," "Tired of Doing Things," "You're Naive." even though i rarely put it on

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

all the husker du records really could use a remaster, the sound quality/production SUCKS!

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

Seriously, I've held off on buying the rest of the catalog for nearly 20 years now after hearing how thin Zen Arcade sounded. Will immediately drop the $$ for a full reissue campaign.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

all the husker du records really could use a remaster, the sound quality/production SUCKS!

I think you guys are getting your hopes up too much. Remastering can't fix the poor recording techniques and shoddy equipment that were clearly present at the recording sessions.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

Well yeah, but I've heard Zen Arcade on both vinyl and CD, the CD sounds like shit and the vinyl sounds pretty decent. So I know that the CD/digital stuff actually does have room for improvement.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

i really don't think Spot's recording techniques were poor, although he was working under serious time/budget restrictions. but my Du vinyl sounds rad, and my Du CDs mostly sound awful, so there's work that can be done.

Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)

goddammit

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 July 2022 07:34 (three years ago)

Noooooooo

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Saturday, 2 July 2022 13:24 (three years ago)

oh crap, please be well greg

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 2 July 2022 13:35 (three years ago)

ten months pass...

He survived at least and appears to be back playing
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4hBOxSOe1i86mKTUWQbDSs?si=4471c7c323be40c2

Stevo, Sunday, 7 May 2023 16:33 (three years ago)

Apparently Bob Mould just got married.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cr8P7bLrYC2/?hl=en

(It's the next photo, not the jockey.)

birdistheword, Sunday, 7 May 2023 21:40 (three years ago)

Cartoon voice: ā€œI’m seeing triple!!!!!ā€

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 7 May 2023 23:19 (three years ago)

It's always nice when stars get along with their stunt double.

StanM, Monday, 8 May 2023 02:16 (three years ago)

Clearly likes people in the same mould

Vinnie, Monday, 8 May 2023 02:27 (three years ago)

It's like Eddie and Valerie all over again.

pplains, Monday, 8 May 2023 13:50 (three years ago)

THis is the 2nd interview with Greg Norton I've heard over the last couple of weeks. Not sure I'd really heard him or read him interviewed before. I'm not remembering him featuring majorly in the music rag interviews from the time, not sure how accurate a picture that is.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6GyEhHWhbtSUhM3zVROlIQ?si=d25d23ee9e23443e

Stevo, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 15:38 (three years ago)

Wait, Greg has a project called UltraBomb and Bob has a project called LoudBomb?

with hidden noise, Thursday, 18 May 2023 01:10 (three years ago)

Bob is going to play at 2 celebrations on July 28 & 29 @ City Winery NYC of the 50 anniversary of the Nuggets 65 to 68 collection with Lenny Kaye leading house band and Patti Smith, Ivan Julian, Peter Buck and more on the bill

curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 May 2023 14:48 (three years ago)


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