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Anyone got $5 for a nice vinyl copy of "Mongrel"?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4725110613&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

screw CDs.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but I can't listen to records in the car, and that's where I do most of my listening these days, thanks to a 2hr/day commute.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

But still $5 for a nice vinyl copy seems like a great deal.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

That's how much I paid for a nice vinyl copy of the "Ramblin Gamblin Man" LP at the WFMU record fair.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

You can always find cheap vinyl copies of mongrel, and ramblin' gmablin on vinyl cuz they made them into the 80's. Noah is hard to find though. and pricier. same with brand new morning.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was gonna say, why the fuck would somebody pay $150 for a CD reissue of an early '70s album that you could find a used copy for a few bucks if you just went to a few flea markets or used record stores? Because the CD is, like, "the real" reissue or something? That's completely moronic....it makes no sense at all.

(xp)

The Hall of Fame comp that o.nate linked to looks great, but is missing a lot of tracks that i'd consider mandatory (lucifer, back in '72, u.m.c., ramblin gamblin man, rosalie, etc). A couple times on this board I've mentioned a vinyl bootleg best of seger's early years album i passed up at sam's jams in ferndale (which had a big pile of them) sometime in the early '80s, because i was to cheap to shell out 15 bucks or whatever. easily the dumbest missed record purchase of my life, and the last few times i checked, there was no evidence on the internet that such a record had ever even existed (assuming i didn't dream it in the first place, which is seeming more and more like a possibility, the older i get.) (i think it *may* have been on "seeds and stems records," also responsible for the legedary *michigan rocks* compilation, but maybe not.)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

holy crap, cameo/parkway reissues! pigs do fly!

time to sell off those ? and the mysterians boots!!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(my point isn't just vinyl vs. CD; it's original vs. reissue. i mean, i'm no record collector, and i hardly pay more than a couple bucks for any record, ever, but if i were to pay a ton, i think getting a reissue of an old album would make me feel completely ripped off!)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

was it this one, chuck:

http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=2597702098

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Super-Cool Cover

well hell, that *is* a super-cool cover! why did he ever grow a beard?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe! that actually looks pretty familiar, scott!! (though in my rose-colored memory it has more early '70s stuff on it, of course!)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

That's weird. If you search for "mongrel seger" on ebay, that LP scott points to above doesn't come back in the results. Stupid computers.

― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

(i don't understand buying "sealed" old records, either, though! i mean, how long is it gonna stay sealed? two minutes after i get it?)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Buying "sealed" means it "should be" in good shape when you opened it.

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

oh okay...but then two minutes after my shitty-ass dusty-garage-sale-vinyl-readied stylus gets to it, the "good shape" is kinda of a moot point, too!

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear ya on that. On the other hand, sealed rekkids are most useful to collectors, who'll never break the sacred shrink wrap just so they can brag about having a mint "No New York" or "Back In '72."

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the only possible reason I can think of that someone would pay $150 for a CD in a sealed long box. Once you open the long box, the value is going to drop by about $140.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

chuck, why don't you get a nice new record player with a new needle? you're a music critic, right?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

people pay a lot of money for out of print CDs. It's crazy to me, but what the hell. That recent thread on this very topic was funny. $300 on Ebay for music from the Airwolf t.v. show on cd! But i guess if you think you can't find it and really need it... the idea of CD "collectors" is weird to me.Cuz all they have to do is put the damn thing IN PRINT again and your friggin' CD is worthless. There are only so many first pressings of records.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I am very clueless anyway about how much my vinyl is worth; I even always forget *No New York* (or modern dance or germ free adolescents or those rhythim is rhythm 12-inchs etc) is hard to find, since to me it's just been on my shelf for decades. A No NY copy at ebay is at $20 now; will it go much higher? (eventually i may have to think about this kinda thing, now that kids' college tuition is an issue.)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4726134005&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i only end up with valuable lps and cds by accident. i sold a john cage thing on folkways for like $200 but i got it for $2 and had no idea how much it was worth.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

>chuck, why don't you get a nice new record player with a new needle? <

I did, late last year, when my old turntable completely stopped working! But all I play on it is used vinyl I find, usually, so the needle doesn't stay "new" long. And that sounds perfectly fine to me! I'm not gonna replace it every couple months; I have better things to spend money on, and it wouldn't make a difference to me anyway. I've never been an audiophile at all. Audiophiles are nuts.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

This copy of "No New York" went for $35, and it seems to be in worse condition than the one currently at $20:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4719563460&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

the idea of CD "collectors" is weird to me.Cuz all they have to do is put the damn thing IN PRINT again and your friggin' CD is worthless

That's true, but if you're talking about something like the Airwolf soundtrack, the chance of that coming back into print must be pretty close to nil, so it's a pretty safe investment for a collector.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, I guess I should look at that CD-collector thread, but one question I have about CD collecting is whether promo versions of CDs are worth a lot more than the actual CDs if the promos are in not in plain white covers with black lettering, but rather, in actual full-colored covers that are *different* from the ones on the CDs. My copy of the first Hanson CD is like that -- it has a cover, but it looks nothing like the one in the stores. (This only happened *very* rarely in vinyl days, as I recall -- like, I think there was a Herman Brood album once or something. Unless you count those Skynyrd/GnR things where covers *changed.*) The new Deana Carter and Shelly Fairchild promos are like that too (and come to think of it, my copy of the *first* Deana Carter has a *hologram* cover! I wonder if that is rare!) Plus there are all those weird, thin, SST promo versions in odd black and white covers with photos on them. Will those be worth lots of $$$ someday? Or does nobody give a shit? I'm slightly curious.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually $300 is awfully cheap for that Airwolf soundtrack, according to this webpage:

http://www.airwolfthemes.com/awtworldrecord.html

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

But on the other hand, with vinyl albums, aren't there lots of them where the copies where it says "promo" on the label (Metal Machine Music for instance, I think somebody told me once) are worth way less than actual store-released versions, just because way more promos were sent out than copies that wound up in stores? Collectors probably take this stuff for granted, but like I said, I am clueless.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

what the hell is "airwolf"?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a bad '80s TV show - a rip off of the movie "Blue Thunder".

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

was the soundtrack especially interesting??

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, is Seger's early stuff on the Airwolf soundtrack?

― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

was the soundtrack especially interesting??

I don't recall it being anything special, but that was a long time ago.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost -
Haha- sorry for the thread derail.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I never even heard of Blue Thunder! (But Bob Seger did sing about thunder in "Night Moves," so there you go.)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Airwolf vs. Blue Thunder

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.fullofwishes.info/galaxie/dbimages/g500_bluethunder.jpg

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the coolest promos i have is a vinyl radio promo from 1978 on orange vinyl of live elvis costello, nick lowe & rockpile, and mink deville. one side is capitol with the capitol label and one side is columbia with the columbia label! i've never heard of that happening again. a split 12 inch with two big labels like that. my brother had one when i was a kid and i found one in a thrift store years ago.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't even know what this is, so i don't know why someone would pay 450 dollars for it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4725497713&rd=1

Sorry! Last one! Commence Segering!

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess if these examples prove anything, it's that scarcity is a much more important factor in collectible value than name recognition or critical esteem.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

This is some serious bullshit. Outside of "UMC" and "Get Of Denver," how is any of this stuff what anybody would want on a good "early Seger" compilation?? (Not that I go to Meijer's much nowadays anyway.)

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/bob-seger-raids-vaults-for-early-seger-set-1004033025.story

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

The tracklist just seems totally random.

And wtf??: Highlights of the collection are four unreleased tracks, three of which -- "Star Tonight," "Wildfire" and "Days When the Rain Would Come" -- were written during the early '80s

I guess that's "early" compared to, like, the late '00s?

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

weird. the track-listing is just weird. and dumb. and a wasted opportunity.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:25 (sixteen years ago)

because, you know, most know bob seger from his recent work like....uh....um....he did a chevy ad a few years back right?

face it -- the guy does not want his early singles reissued. we will see them over his dead body, i think.

― amateurist, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

i mean, don johnson throwaways? thanks, bob.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

On the other hand, this is way beyond wishful thinking, but I can see how it might conceivably make some small sense from a business perspective -- Cut an exclusive deal with Meijer, pull a fast one on them by giving them all this useless crap that nobody wants, then save all the actual in-demand rarities for Walmart or Target or Cracker Barrel or somewhere...

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

If he wanted to reissue Ramblin' Gamblin' Man or Back in '72 on CD, he could do it easily. His last album sold really well. But he doesn't want to, presumably because of some rights issue(s).

― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:52 (sixteen years ago)

My buddy put the song "Vagrant Winter" on a mix for me (he found the 45 somewhere in Chicago). It completely rules.
I have always wanted to hear "Heavy Music" but I'm beginning to think it will never happen.

― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:59 (sixteen years ago)

that early stuff is floating around the interwebs. i managed to find it. if i can remember i can try to post it sometime.

― amateurist, Thursday, 5 November 2009 00:01 (sixteen years ago)

I would think "Heavy Music" would be by far one of the easier of those tracks to find -- Smokin' OPs was only reissued on CD four years ago. (See top of this thread.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 November 2009 00:07 (sixteen years ago)

plus, if you just want to HEAR it, it's on youtube.

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 November 2009 02:10 (sixteen years ago)

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all this Seger talk makes me want this mystical comp.

― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Monday, 27 October 2025 01:47 (seven months ago)

there’s a youtube version of the playlist here

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYAuZTf3j7nWixvtaqbZne-g8mMtOPODk&si=ZnzB9TI2TzY-ptQb

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 October 2025 03:03 (seven months ago)

I heard "Hollywood Nights" (one of my favorites by anyone) at a pizza / taproom place tonight and was admiring how it took Seger out of his usual mode of storytelling (blue collar, man-to-man) and put a guy way in over his head in a new place.

― the way out of (Eazy), Monday, 27 October 2025 04:44 (seven months ago)

re-up of the 'updated' version posted here

― mookieproof, Monday, 27 October 2025 22:57 (seven months ago)

RIP to beloved ilxor Myonga Von Bontee :(

― sleeve, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 01:48 (seven months ago)

indeed

― mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 01:53 (seven months ago)

Loved that guy, even though I only knew him from this borad. RIP.

― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 01:56 (seven months ago)

RIP and then some, what a good sort and what an impact!

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 19:51 (seven months ago)

damn, so sorry to hear of myonga's passing — did not know him except for here, but he always seemed like a great person.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 20:20 (seven months ago)

oh no. so sorry to hear :(

― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 21:11 (seven months ago)

rip mvb :'(

― budo jeru, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 21:14 (seven months ago)

Through the Kim Mitchell thread, I just found out that MVB was from Owen Sound, Ontario, where I had a truly profound drug experience as a teenager and have always wanted to return to as a result.

― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 November 2025 13:44 (seven months ago)

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