i be like damn
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)
new model 500! cool!
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)
that deepchord album (coldest season) is probably the best electronic lp from this year
― tricky, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, but the echospace stuff like vahid linked above pisses me off with it's extremely limited availability. I haven't been able to get any of them yet and I've wanted them all. Still haven't even heard a rip of the CV313 and I need to!
― matt2, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)
Well I guess I should've looked at the blog Jena linked above. They're all there. But I still want the vinyl! And I agree with the others, giving away readily available releases in their entirety just pisses me off.
― matt2, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)
next time you feel stupid for wasting time arguing on ILX, consider that some people address their need for attention by stealing music and posting it on the internet
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)
wow i just clicked over to that blog! a mint original pressing of the quadrant ep on r&s is going for 50 euros on discogs..
i have slowly been collecting all of the basic channel releases from hardwax (on fat colored vinyl even)
― tricky, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)
hong kong by monolake is going for 100 euros in the metal tin
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)
someone paid $30 for *JUST THE CD* on ebay last month
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
― am0n, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)
I feel bad for posting that link now :/ I've got about 15-20 of blogs like this in my bookmarks, and I'm not even really looking.
― Jena, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)
the dude who sold "just the CD" = first case of the metal tin breaking the metal tin
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)
i liek 2 downlode
― am0n, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)
are the echospace 12"s different from the cd's tracks in any way?
― babedad, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 00:48 (eighteen years ago)
Something I read seemed to suggest that the cd tracks were actually extended versions (or maybe different mixes) of the 12" tracks in certain cases.
― matt2, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)
Got the Scion "Arrange and Process" in the mail yesterday. Overall it's more upbeat techno than expected, but it sounds great. So far it seems BCD1 is a deeper listen, and wish the vinyl series was available on CD or official download.
― no-nonsense, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)
those echospace detroit releases aren't particularly limited. they keep on repressing them. they are, however, ridiculously expensive.
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)
i sold my monolake metal tin for in excess of $80 last year. it's getting reissued so get on it.
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)
wish the vinyl series was available on CD or official download.
torrenttorrenttorrenttorrenttorrenttorrenttorrenttorrent
― am0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)
the vinyl series mp3 rips i've heard on soulseek are horrendous quality
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, I've seen the blog link upthread but the old-fashioned warm fuzzy feeling of supporting the artists really adds to my enjoyment of the music.
― no-nonsense, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)
i LOVE that arrange & process record. at first i wasn't so into it, but i came to it over time.
― the table is the table, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)
-- resolved, Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:01 AM (21 minutes ago)
i must have the good rips then :_)
― am0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)
who knows, i'm comparing to how the records sound through an ok stereo so it's never going to be a fair contest. real master-sourced mp3s would be so much better but i highly doubt it's ever going to happen.
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)
"sound quality" is sorta missing the point w/r/t basic channel, no?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)
way xpost
You know I just saw that the cv313 echospace was re-pressed resolved. I'll definitely try to get one of those, but it's kinda weird they're doing that after all the talk of these limited pressings.
― matt2, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)
xp, i always thought the point was a kind of hi-fi lossiness. you are gonna lose the hiss with compression!
― tricky, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)
no i don't think saying vinyl rips of basic channel aren't up to scratch is missing the point. obviously the series is imperfect sounding but it's a calculated imperfection, widescreened and bassy -- both of which are lacking from VINYL RIPPED 192 mp3s. although clearly they're far better than nothing if you don't want to buy a turntable/all the records.
it all depends on the 12" anyway. if you're saying superior sound quality doesn't add any extra value to eg bc04 we'll have to agree to disagree.
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)
well, i know that the original pressing of round two sounded like utter crap and not on purpose. and there was sand or dirt on the stamper for the repress of lyot reshape. i don't think the poor sound quality was always calculated.
― elan, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)
but you are right about them wanting to sound imperfect. the best description i ever heard of their sound was "like hearing a dope warehouse rave from a couple blocks away"
― elan, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)
yeah some of the pressings are quite sloppy, i'll give you that -- but the clear version of bc04 -- oof. one of the best sounding records i own.
i dunno about the crackly press of lyot remix being unintentional though... i actually think it sounds better that way! as hardwax notes about its dancehall: "Most of these are Jamaican pressings, with crackle and dust built in. This is how it’s supposed to be!"
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)
rhythm and sound no longer together?
http://www.eleventhvolume.com/miscellany/2007/08/04/sad-news/
― nikbozic, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)
i'd say moritz von oswald doing a remix of 2raumwohnung is a fairly strong indicator they're on a break at least. whatever happened to that luciano remix he had scheduled on ostgut ton?
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)
holy blargh.
Anyway, if the warehouse rave thing is true of Basic Channel, then I feel like Fluxion is hearing a dark warehouse rave from inside a gigantic tank of water.
― the table is the table, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)
also. UR mix of Ploy is great, had never heard it before a few days ago.
― the table is the table, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)
they both did separate remixes of Tony Allen this year too.
― jed_, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)
yeah i know but the relative insignificance of 2raumwohnung just set the really set the alarm bells ringing for me...
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)
-1st set the...
no offence intended to 2raumwohnung particularly. i'd just never imagine them getting a basic channel family remix.
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)
i still haven't heard the full m-series, just the comp. cd
― am0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)
who's loss? your loss!
― elan, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)
resolved, you are right about bc-04. the way that first track sounds, that way it moves me... i think my favorite basic channel song if i picked one. funky, dark, moody, uplifting rhythms, perfect timing, pumping bass
― elan, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)
and the UR mix of ploy! that's what made me listen to UR. probably my fave UR song besides amazon and transition.
That Moritz mix of Tony Allen! =00000000000
― admrl, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)
should be 2x as long
― ☪, Monday, 5 November 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)
wait, im thinking of moyege (marks disco dub).
― ☪, Monday, 5 November 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)
maurizio!
― admrl, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 01:37 (eighteen years ago)
substance!
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 02:11 (eighteen years ago)
i listen to the R&S CD the most of all the BC related stuff, followed by the BC:CD and then the Main Street CD. i have a bunch of all this stuff on vinyl, and i love playing the M records in a deejay set but on their own they dont do much.
and i know this is close to heresy, but i dont really like any of the Chain Reaction stuff. maybe a couple monolake bits and a couple porter ricks jams but most of that stuff is too clinical, not enough soul for my taste.
― pipecock, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 03:53 (eighteen years ago)
poppycock.
― blunt, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 08:09 (eighteen years ago)
pipecock: no love for vainqueur? not even this?
― resolved, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)
yeah pretty much all of those remixes sound a little dated tbf
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:14 (three years ago)
back in style in five years, when mnml revival happens
― the late great, Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:20 (three years ago)
i'm fine with that just please no clicks this time
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:29 (three years ago)
how about some roland hand claps?
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:36 (three years ago)
eternal
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:39 (three years ago)
Definitely get that sense of dread from Rod of Iron’s vocals on Lightning Storm
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 26 May 2023 08:15 (three years ago)
I think Pole is the closest comparison to sound the Basic Channel guys achieved with R&S, but even more faded, degraded and glitchy.
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 26 May 2023 10:15 (three years ago)
the dubplates & mastering-centered group of the time
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2023 03:06 (three years ago)
LOL at Paul St. Hilaire titling his new album "w/ The Producers", but also it's excellent.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 23:23 (eight months ago)
I can't believe over 2 years passed since this thread was last bumped
― beard papa, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 04:49 (eight months ago)
Thanks for the heads up re. St. Hilaire. The album's indeed excellent. Shall purchase tomorrow (Bandcamp Friday).
― jvc, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:32 (eight months ago)
Listening to Basic Channel stuff more than ever at the moment. The Chain Reaction records, particularly the Various Artists album are perfect at this time of year (any time of year, really),.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:43 (eight months ago)