― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 19 September 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:56 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:57 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link
Lack of exposure to black culture?And I think Curtis was just pointing out what was either an inconsistency in your argument or some semantic trouble... whatever, you're just being faux-naif anyway, you strawman
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
Worried about ending up with a tarnished reputation. Some people care about what others think of them. (fwiw I'm not one of those people)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
The Fugitive ha ha ha
(I see whatcher sayin, I guess I just happen to know some really panty-waist PC-types who just don't want their permanent record to bear a scarlet "R")
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:19 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:27 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:28 (twenty years ago) link
― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link
well I don't think they're the most important group in hip-hop, and I've only heard it once and really didn't think it sounded like indie rock, but I did like it.
That's the thing though; I don't think there's a unified opinion to this supposed "I have black friends" set. It's not like there's a unified I Have Black Friends Party platform or something! People say things for different reasons sometimes.
also probably no one will admit to being in this set.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 19 September 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 19 September 2003 19:11 (twenty years ago) link
― the ghastly fop, Friday, 19 September 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2003 21:34 (twenty years ago) link
As for Outkast, I think they occaisionally are a little self-indulgent and perhaps critically overrated, but still I think Aquemini is a great album (and a real hip hop album)...I haven't heard the new one, but Trife I think you'd have to admit that at least early Outkast (Southernplayalistic) was pretty much straight up southern hip hop, and good at that.....
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 19 September 2003 22:00 (twenty years ago) link
― d k (d k), Saturday, 20 September 2003 00:42 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 20 September 2003 01:45 (twenty years ago) link
Aaaannnnndddd sexism.
We've got everything going here. Trife: what are some singles you think I should hear but am overlooking?
― David Allen, Saturday, 20 September 2003 02:40 (twenty years ago) link
― d k (d k), Saturday, 20 September 2003 03:00 (twenty years ago) link
i don't think real hip-hop is in any danger of ALL going the way of dre, nor sadly do i think that there's any real chance that the indie kids are gonna start to like real hip-hop en masse except in a "ironic" (ne blackface) way anyway.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 20 September 2003 04:18 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 20 September 2003 04:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 20 September 2003 07:16 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 20 September 2003 07:28 (twenty years ago) link
The girl's only in the video because she's got a great ass. If there was another reason for her presence, she would be facing the camera, instead of pointing her ass at it every time she's seen. So how is appreciating that ass sexist? Should I instead have called her out for her superb delivery of the two lines of dialogue the director gave her?
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 20 September 2003 13:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 20 September 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
― nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 20 September 2003 15:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 20 September 2003 15:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 20 September 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 20 September 2003 19:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 21 September 2003 05:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 21 September 2003 23:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 21 September 2003 23:42 (twenty years ago) link
I can totally understand feeling like that, but I fear the Andre 3000 Quartet album.
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Monday, 22 September 2003 18:57 (twenty years ago) link
― dan carstens, Saturday, 13 December 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link
― irrigation can save your people (irrigation can save your peopl), Monday, 18 April 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Overrated thread
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i like to think that this is still ILM's favourite single of the 00s
― blueski, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link
wow, people really had their heads way up their asses here
― The Reverend, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link
I've actually ADDED this into my rotation of iPod tracks as of a few months ago. Why the hell was I so down on this song???
― Tantrum The Cat, Friday, 12 September 2008 05:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Not enough flanged guitars in this track
― Fer Ark, Friday, 12 September 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
The two big influences on this song according to Andre 3000? The Ramones and the Buzzcocks' Singles Going Steady album.
I remember that piece of trivia from an EW interview with the band around the time the song was blowing up.
― Cunga, Monday, 11 January 2010 06:50 (fourteen years ago) link
No wonder it was so beloved by college radio types.
― viborg, Monday, 11 January 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link
The definitive version of Hey Ya can be found at 1'43'' here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItMJtA8vfpw&feature=player_embedded
― Alba, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, that would be excruciating enough if they could sing.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont like the song very much. i agree with trife regarding the flaming lips comment. but i also think it has initiated some really interesting discussions regarding tokenism etc, and the people who like the record have said interesting stuff as wellthe song also seems kind of mid-late 090s, that genre-hopping thing, 'eclecticism' etc (the bane of the 90s sadly, making everything a muddy nothing, the excreble Beck etc), so in a way this record seems kind of quaint now, a throwback to that time, and, of course, also a throwback to 1970s sitcom music, which is what this sounds like to me.
1970s sitcom music can be a good thing, but i would say not in the case of this record, which feels too much like a spoof of some unknown american comedy show which never travelled across the Atlantic
― gareth (gareth), Thursday, January 1, 2004 6:36 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is kinda otm.
first time i heard this song i pictured it getting MTV2 rotation for a few weeks and zero radio play before they came with some bigger better follow-up hit, still kind of bitter that that didn't happen.
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link
this song's time signature is soooo visionary
― teledyldonix, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link