Guns n Roses: Critical Rehab

i haven't listened to it, i really should

can we talk about how great izzy was

No kidding... May be my fave "other guitarist in the band" next to Malcolm Young

I never heard anything after that first one, but I liked it a lot!

i remember liking the cover

I would advise everyone here to listen to "Welcome to the Jungle" again with fresh ears. How fucking amazing is this song? There's like 15 different parts and they all rule. I have an especially newfound appreciation for the badass Izzy guitar riff behind the "serpentine" and "sha-na-na-na-knees" part. KICK ASS!

Juju Hounds record is killer. he's made TEN albums since then but i think i'm happier just assuming they're good than finding out for sure.

Never listened to the Ju Ju Hounds album, but always kinda liked the cover. Maybe I'll check it out, seeing as how I'm basically stuck in my apartment for two days.

spotify only has one of his, River? it's kinda meh.

also, Duff is a hugely underrated bass player. he's got some great parts on AfD.

Dust N Bones is still one of my favorite GNR songs.

from wiki: Stradlin was then asked by his former Guns N' Roses band mates Duff McKagan, Slash, and Matt Sorum to join the supergroup Velvet Revolver. Although he contributed to the songwriting process while the band was in its formative stage,[19] Stradlin ultimately declined to join due to his aversion to life on the road and his unwillingness to work with a lead singer, although he offered to split vocal duties with McKagan.[20]

Velvet Revolver would have been a thousand times better with Izzy & Duff doing vox vs stinky Scott Weiland.

I just started listening to opening track on youtube

straight Keefing omg I love it

Agreed. What a shame that Izzy wasn't part of that; and what a shame that Scott Weiland was. The GNR guys have been cursed with singers with awful attitudes.

Also, Adler on drums... He's got a great, sleazy style that just really works with GNR, something that accentuates how terrible and unfit Matt Sorum was for this band.

I don't know enough about drumming to know if Sorum is good or bad but I just really cannot stand him. Him and Gilby fucking Clarke. gross.

Sorum is "good," in the sense that he had a fine career as a session musician. But he doesn't have much in the way of character.

and shiny

Although it has some decent songs, I'm actually not super crazy about Appetite, but I still think UYI is great. And really only about a quarter of it is filler/garbage ("My World" is one of the worst songs GnR or anyone has ever recorded), which is pretty good for a double album.

"Estranged" is awesome for sure.

I haven't heard any reasonable complaints about my world that also don't apply to the rest of the catalog.
I think my world might even have the same riffs as welcome to the jungle (but sped up)

I'm def a sucker for the Illusion ballads, and stuff like Pretty Tied Up, Dust And Bones, the real bluesy rockers. and I have a huge soft spot for Coma even though it's 9 million years long.

but Illusion could totally have stood being one album - some of that stuff like Get In The Ring is almsot impossible to listen to now, lol. Even when I listen now I think I skip at least half the songs.

"My World" sounds like the work of a thirteen-year-old who just discovered ProTools and anger.

"Get In The Ring" also stupid imo.

Actually, it wouldn't be that hard to whittle down to a single album. The covers aren't bad but they're pretty unnecessary.

So the problem is protools? they're not allowed to use samples?

Nunez, you're so off-base with this band, i don't even

You wanna step into my world
It's a sociopsychotic state of bliss
Where dad can't make me mow the lawn
And Mr. Harrison can't make me take that test

Nah the covers are good. I heard Knockin On Heaven's Door on the radio the other day, I was SURE I was sick of it but halfway through I cranked it up and was HAAAAY HAY HAY YEAAAH'ing right along with it lol

except I always hate that phone call part.

again I don't see how this is more embarrassing than "feel my serpentine" or "yowza" or "Hunan grocery store ain't that fresh"

p sure it's human not hunan lol

Chinese foodocracy

appetite for general tso's chicken

if his Hunan grocery store is anything like the one near my house, it really ain't that fresh

loool

hahah

I am buying this Izzy & The Ju Ju Hounds album today, digging the hell out of it right now. unbelievably great

Enjoy it!

yeah if you put a guitar in my hands it's pretty safe to bet that sooner or later you're going to hear bits of "somebody knocking" and/or "shuffle it all"

cf that keef thing

if I played guitar that's how I like to think I would sound too

or I'd try really damn hard to sound that way, lol

The Wikipedia entries on Use Your Illusion are amazing!

The Use Your Illusion albums represent a turning point in the sound of Guns N' Roses. Although they did not abandon the hard-rock tendencies vivid in their first album, Appetite for Destruction, Use Your Illusion I demonstrated, for the first time, more or less, elements of blues, classical music, heavy metal, punk rock and rock and roll classic. For example, lead singer Axl Rose plays piano on several tracks of both albums. This fact is evidenced by the numerous music videos produced in conjunction with these albums.

Plus:

See also:

List of best-selling albums in Argentina

i don't really like any of GNR's post-appetite albums ('lies' does have some great songs) and even appetite itself has plenty of uninspired moments but it never fails to amaze me how good 'welcome to the jungle' is. the riffs, the lyrics, the perfectly timed opening and build-up -- even axl's voice, which sometimes bugs me now, is crazy good here. for four minutes they really were the best band in the world.

IMO the whole "what if UYI was one album" thing isn't quite true cuz these are all necessary:

don't cry 4:44
double talkin' jive: 3:24
november rain 8:57
Dead Horse 4:18
Coma 10:13
civil War 7:42
14 years 4:21
Yesterdays 3:16
Breakdown 7:05
Pretty Tied Up 4:48
Locomotive 8:42
Estranged 9:24
You Could Be Mine 5:43

little too much for one CD

yeah I started thinking between november, civil war, coma, and estranged that's almost a whole disc right there lol

i don't agree w/ those picks, but the fact that people can't really agree on what the ideal single album version should be is generally the best argument for a double album staying a double (xpost)

I totally hear "Coma" as a Bowie song. In much the same way that I'm convinced that "Ghostbusters" should've been performed by the B-52s.

wait which version of 'don't cry' gets saved? surely not the one with 'honey!' and 'sugar!' haphazardly (and rather cynically) tossed in.

original version has "honey" and "sugar" and is far better than the alt. lyrics one w/o them

yeah I go with "original lyrics" version. Best version is the Appetite-era demo though

UYI knockin' on heaven's door is pretty good but it pales so dramatically in comparison to live versions that I barely listen to it

YOU GOTTA MAAAAAAKE IT YOUR OWN WAY BUT YOU'LL BE ALRIIIIGHT NOW SHUGAH

the best

u guys are craay-ay-jay!