Itunes, Billboard, and the marginalization of black music and black audiences in America

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xp you changed chart history!

teledyldonix, Sunday, 28 October 2012 09:01 (eleven years ago) link

haha well actually nevermind, i thought Train went missing from the chart the week after my piece ran but it was the same week, so i rescind my pretending to take credit. still, pretty interesting to see clear evidence of them not being so sure of themselves w/ some of these genre distinctions.

extremely loud and incredible hulk (some dude), Sunday, 28 October 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart was just downsized from top 40 to top 25 on the main Billboard site, which is not a big deal but another thing pissing me off

some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

damn

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 November 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

"Adorn" is currently #10 on airplay and #71 on digital.

these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Saturday, 24 November 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

The highest it's gone on the latter is #49.

these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Saturday, 24 November 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

Overall airplay, not r&b airplay, if that needs clarification.

these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Saturday, 24 November 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

#10 on Radio Songs is actually uncommonly high for a recent R&B radio hit w/ minimal pop radio crossover too -- "Climax" was probably the next highest this year and it peaked at #16

The Doc Morbama (some dude), Saturday, 24 November 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

serious lols at the cover of miranda lambert's "over you" from the voice being #3 on the country chart this week

teledyldonix, Saturday, 1 December 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

oh god yeah i didn't even think about what talent shows are gonna do to these charts now

susan dey with jigga (some dude), Saturday, 1 December 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

shd have a talent show/glee covers chart imo

subwe - hopelessly addicted to a certain kind of sandwich (m bison), Saturday, 1 December 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

"Diamonds" is still number one on the R&B Songs chart.

Has anyone heard this song on an R&B station?

Andy K, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it has actually climbed up the R&B airplay chart over time, is at #13 now, i hear it here and there. the Kanye remix helped, too.

some dude, Monday, 10 December 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

also "we are never ever getting back together" has 'made chart history' by breaking the record for longest run at #1 on country songs

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link

wish we were discussing Herb Alpert's "Diamonds"

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

sorry, for solo females

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

"Gangnam Style" is now 17th on the Billboard Latin Airplay chart

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

yeah sometimes somewhat unexpected songs do pretty well on latin (adele and lmfao placed a number of singles on it recently)

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 06:27 (eleven years ago) link

also "we are never ever getting back together" has 'made chart history' by breaking the record for longest run at #1 on country songs

― teledyldonix, Monday, December 10, 2012 8:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one thing i love is that practically EVERY current country act's wiki page (besides Taylor's) now has Country Airplay added to its chart info to reflect the popularity of recent singles -- it's a shame fans of other genres whose charts got screwed with aren't as fired up about this as country fans.

some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

"Thrift Shop" being in the top ten of the r&b chart is even more ridiculous than the "Diamonds" thing

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

It should be noted that after 13 weeks at the top of the roost, "Adorn" is the "greatest gainer" in r&b airplay.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

it's also #10 on Radio Songs, which is easily the highest any R&B song has gotten w/o pop crossover all year ("Climax" got no higher than #16), so the extent of its playlist saturation is staggering.

some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

"Diamonds" obviously nowhere on the year-end R&B list

some dude, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

damn "love on top" was that big of a hit, huh

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

"lotus flower bomb" was the third biggest hit of THIS YEAR?

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

There was like a six- to eight-month period where I would turn on the radio and hear "Lotus Flower Bomb" within the first three songs.

I try not to speak of those days.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

"Party" actually got airplay down here than LOT.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 December 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah "Lotus Flower Bomb" was pretty gigantic, and gotta remember these things go December to November, so things that broke wide late the previous year have an advantage (i'm betting in decade-end lists "Adorn" will triumph over "Lotus" easily)

some dude, Saturday, 15 December 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

R&B/hip-hop top 100 is 27% Young Money, 13% G.O.O.D. and 12% MMG

some dude, Saturday, 15 December 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

This can't be life.

Andy K, Saturday, 15 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

(Wild Colonials reference.)

Andy K, Saturday, 15 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

Only 16 of the r&b eoy top 100 made the Hot 100 eoy chart.

The Reverend, Saturday, 15 December 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

In 2002, there was a 48-song overlap, exactly 3x as many.

The Reverend, Saturday, 15 December 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

9-song overlap with eoy Rock chart (way up from i think 3 last year), and 14-song overlap with country

some dude, Sunday, 16 December 2012 04:18 (eleven years ago) link

Via Danyel Smith/Andy Kellman:

http://madamenoire.com/247266/arbitron-sale-to-nielsen-could-be-good-news-for-urban-radio/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Songs with most weeks at number one on Billboard's R&B chart:

18. "Choo Choo Ch'Boogie - Louis Jordan
15. "Be Without You" - Mary J. Blige
14. "Nobody's Supposed to Be Here" - Deborah Cox
14. "We Belong Together" - Mariah Carey
14. "Blame It" - Jamie Foxx Feat. T-Pain
14. "Pretty Wings" - Maxwell
13. "Can't Be Friends" - Trey Songz
12. "Diamonds " - Rihanna
12. "Un-Thinkable (I'm Ready)" - Alicia Keys
12. "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)" - Beyoncé
11. "Climax" - Usher

if the chart hadn't been changed in October, Miguel's "Adorn" would be on its 16th week at #1 (as it stands it only had 4 weeks). I'm pretty sure Rihanna will be dethroned in the next week or two...by Macklemore.

PliesStripAThon5Jan20th@gmail.com (some dude), Sunday, 30 December 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

...........

teledyldonix, Sunday, 30 December 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

I know this should have its own thread but man these changes have turned the rock chart into a dire melange of Of Lumineers And Mumfords

maura, Sunday, 30 December 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

xp are you trying to imply this guy isn't keeping the block hot?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wdNofQxrfrk/UEAcCPiLXnI/AAAAAAAAC5w/qg00qrcI9Ho/s1600/Macklemore.jpg

Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Sunday, 30 December 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

I just listened to Macklemore & Ryan Lewis for the first time. Why did I think that was a good idea?

Sri Harold Klemp (crüt), Sunday, 30 December 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

tbf the rock airplay charts are also a dire melange of Lumumfordeers, it's the Ed Sheerans and Phillip Phillipses that the download-dominated charts are bringing in

PliesStripAThon5Jan20th@gmail.com (some dude), Sunday, 30 December 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

what the fuck is a lumineers anyway

Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Sunday, 30 December 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

The light that illumines the path for hipsterati

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 December 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

the whole "guitars are back on the charts! but only acoustic ones" thing is pretty surreal

PliesStripAThon5Jan20th@gmail.com (some dude), Sunday, 30 December 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

I Like Lumineers and Mumfords

sleepingbag, Sunday, 30 December 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

the whole "guitars are back on the charts! but only acoustic ones" thing is pretty surreal

fuck yes time to get paid

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 31 December 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

dude if you think you could troll the world by writing the next "Ho Hey" Top 40 folk pop blockbuster you should really go for it

PliesStripAThon5Jan20th@gmail.com (some dude), Monday, 31 December 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link

TROLL BITCHES, GET MONEY

Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Monday, 31 December 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

I'd be much more willing to give it a shot now than I would have been before there were baby clothes to buy but I'm long in the tooth. Gotta get me some Rob n Fab gone rustic stand-ins for my big-dollars Mumford heel turn

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 31 December 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link


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