1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

So the top 50 weighted are always worth more than any unweighted vote right? And it wouldn't make sense to have anything over position 50 be unweighted or to rank anything below 50th place. Am I understanding it right?

― wk, Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Long explanation that I hope answers the question:

If you have an unweighted ballot, everything gets 113 points. Doesn't matter how long the ballot is.

If you have a weighted ballot, the points scheme in the OP is applied: 260, 245, 235, 225, 220, 215, 210, 205, 200, 195, 190, 188, 186, 184 and so on until the end of the ballot. If your ballot is short (49 items or fewer I think), then every item gets more than 113 points so in this case there's no reason to submit an unweighted ballot.

If you have a split ballot then we start counting down 260,245,235,225,220,215,210,205,200,195,190,188,186,184,... as for a weighted ballot until we reach the split point (indicated by a blank line on your ballot). At that point we work out how many points remain from the total "budget" of 11300 and distribute that remainder equally among all items in the second part of the ballot (rounding fractional amounts down to the next integer). The points given to each item in the second part will be less than 113. The items in the top half of the second part will get fewer points than they would on a fully weighted ballot, while the items in the bottom half of the second part will get more points.

Thanks seandalai!

Swaggering Thundercocks!

quite.

ah. ok if i resubmit mine all weighted?

sure

its not really up to me but i know seandalai has allowed it before.

Yeah no problems, I'll delete the old ballot.

I'm sorry I know this might sound like a dumb question, but what is an unweighed ballot? Aren't all ballots going to be the top whatever number 50 or 100, going downwards until the #1?

its for those too lazy to rank the albums

There are three options for distributing votes across the items on your ballot. If you can't face the mental trauma of picking a favourite child album from your list, you can pick the unweighted option and every album will get the same number of points.

or you can rank a part of your ballot and leave the rest unweighted

Ok I didn't realize people wouldn't want to rate their ballot, thanks.

Most did a split ballot in the 80s poll.

I keep putting off voting because I keep finding remarkable new albums. Harlem River Drive tonight, that is definitely going in!

Wish I had that Harlem River Drive record!

Fuck me that Fire On The Bayou is going above Dr John. Sorry Mac!

'idle hands' off the harlem river drive is an eternal favourite.

seandalai, i'll send it over tomorrow. cheers.

ok cool

I've listened to the first three Mandrill albums a few times now, and while they're pretty good, none of them would get near my top 100, even if I thought they rocked enough. They have a lot in common with the early Chicago albums, which is not necessarily a bad thing. The latin-jazz fusion is pretty cool.

While it's nice to hear his guitar playing, the solo Eddie Hazel album in no way measures up to Cosmic Slop/Standing../Let's Take It... It might compare favorably to the overrated One Nation Under A Groove though.

Why not use the ilxor Soundrop room on Spotify to campaign for tracks/albums and add/listen to songs.
http://open.soundrop.fm/s/W16fTbbsgjzuGhsN

That Kanguru album Fastnbulbous mentioned on the other thread is worth a big mention. When I saw it had 4 tracks I expected 4 longish jams but it is more like at least 10 different tracks and it has most of the best elements of classic krautrock.

Fucking incredible album.

Just listened again and at one point it almost sounds like Damo on Oxymoron.

I have already submitted my album vote, but this should be a lot higher.

A lot of variety on this album as well its got everything: Noise rock terrorism, motorik beats, Damo like vocal gymnastics and the odd surprising bit of post punk pop sesnsibility.

Glad you like it! Hopefully others will check it out. Is it on Spotify? I never opened an account as I can't use it at work.

I don't know to be honest. I don't do spotify.

there are a bunch of guru guru albums on spotify but kanguru doesn't appear to be one of them

Voted.

cheers!

now is anybody gonna campaign or discuss anything? hellhouse?

I had completely forgotten about Twink's Think Pink album but I saw it on the nominations list and just listened to it again and that thing is kind of insane and brilliant. Some serious psychedelic shredding on there.

Twink - Tiptoe On The Highest Hill
http://youtu.be/ZIdsndUSEA4

Twink - Ten Thousand Words In A Cardboard Box
http://youtu.be/Q7yeuwQvc0g

now is anybody gonna campaign or discuss anything? hellhouse?

yeah, I rambled a bit about my obsession w/Red Transistor on the tracks thread, and why Not Bite may be the best track of the 70s, but it's p. quiet over there, so w/e. I'll prob. campaign f/more recs/tracks if I'm able to steal away some time f/listening (only 1,000 recs, should be able to knock that out no prob, ha).

on a related note, I see that other people have begun to add to the Spotify album playlist, which is collaborative this time around, so please add yr. fave nominated recs:

http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/1rFbtUwZlcYHBD6gcemMeK

also, if anyone has any recommendations f/nasty psych, I'd love to hear them (I was a little underwhelmed by Satori, mainly b/c I've been ruined by Skullflower and F/i, though I always enjoy Les Rallizes Denudes).

Necronomicon has some pretty nasty guitar sounds http://www.youtu.be/8MEdhY1uxRc Gets going at about the 2:00 mark.

Last night I finally got round to listening to Amon Duul II - Yeti (yeah yeah I know, I'm always the last to everything) and it was pretty much everything I was hoping for. Grade A heavy psych. Will give Flower Travellin' Band - Satori a try next.

^^^

thanks, will check out Necromicon and Amon Duul II (have heard some of their stuff, but not much).

Preparing my list now. Noticed a few duplicates in the nominations list. Mostly S/T albums where there's listings for the album as both S/T and the album/band title i.e Roxy Music and La Dusseldorf.

Anyway, my ballot is pretty kraut heavy looking at it initially.

there's no rush listen to lots of albums before voting. plenty of time to discover new stuff.

or you can discuss the music that influenced Sonic Youth if that will help stimulate some chat.

or you can discuss the music that influenced Sonic Youth if that will help stimulate some chat.

ha, I think we've more-or-less exhausted all the SY angles. as a voter w/v. limited time, however, I would love to hear from anyone planning on making some challopsy or merely offbeat choices f/their top ten or twenty and why they think these oddball recs are worth hearing. I'm on solid ground w/the classic rock and punk and no wave and krautrock, but a fair amount of the psych and funk and more obscure hard rock recs are alien to me, so any illumination into these dark corners will be appreciated (especially if the recommendations are weird, loud, compelling or in any way fucked up).

free your mind and your hellhouse will follow

so who is gonna campaign? What album should we all check out since everyones now checked out
http://www.octopussgarden.es/imagenes/shirts/01_08bd.jpg
and
http://www.classiclps.co.uk/images/shopcovers/P01648.jpg

putting the "The"s under "T" is disgustingly savage imo

damn google

I'm trying to narrow down my list, but it looks like my top spots are going to be heavy on obvious stuff like sabbath, misfits, stooges, ADII, etc. But some of the slightly less celebrated albums that I'll probably rank high are

Aphrodite's Child - 666
Captain Beyond
Groundhogs - Split
Pretty Things - Parachute
Modulo 1000

Aphrodite's Child - 666

Yesssssssssssss

I absolutely second that Captain Beyond album. It's one that seems to embody most of the rawkin' 70's traits without sounding too much like Sabbath or the Stooges or any of the No Wave bands. It was originally described to me as a more spacey Lynyrd Skynyrd which really didn't sound all that interesting (the description wasn't entirely off), but after hearing it it's an incredible progressive rock/southern rock album in the vein of Uriah Heep...but it improves on that style as well.

We've got the system to fuck the system!

Where is the link to the actual thread?

to be fair it's a trillion miles upthread right above the line which omits the word satori

right above where it says recap and the results are listed

ps ON will be pleased to hear i've been listening to satori for the last 40 mins or so. it's ok! like an unhaunted and demurked sabbath!

ILM's Now For Something Completely Different... 70s Album Poll Results! Top 100 Countdown! (Part 2)

I think it's good, it's just not better than about 300 of the other albums on the list

you should have voted then

lol he's got you there tom

I'm sure that would have made all the difference.

justice for os mutantes

you know what i never paid much attention to the pink fairies but based on "kings of oblivion" and specifically the ten-minute hard rock epic "i wish i was a girl" i'm starting to suspect that the late larry wallis might have had some slight gender dysphoria issues

"made with the highest british attention to the wrong detail"

omfg