Taylor Swift - RED - October 22

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the scarf bit doesn't feel sad to me? the line about plaid shirt days and the way that you subsume your identity into what he wants you to be is intense and real, but by the time the scarf reappears it feels like a softer kinder version of the evisceration at the end of dear john.

it's not quite shining like fireworks over your sad empty town, but it's that last minute reversal of feelings from her to him that she's been doing since Tim McGraw when the last chorus went from wistful to 'hear this song on the radio and realize how bad you messed up'

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 18 October 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

"all too well" is a highlight for me

heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 18 October 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

"dance around the kitchen in the refrigerator light" OHHHHHH MANN

heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

omg "22" is incredible too

the first few tracks seemed a little less impactful than "all too well" and "22" but that's prolly cause i'm working thus not paying 100% attention

heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

the first half is more or less perfect. the back half is where i have more issues. duets aside, i love stay stay stay but it feels like a bonus track a la 'Ours' on the last album. it's almost an old taylor song but it's more self-conscious. the country isn't being entirely played straight anymore. sad beautiful tragic should be great, but the chorus isn't clicking entirely for me. Holy Ground and Begin Again number among the LP's best songs though.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

probably will never get around to hearing this but

You call me up again just to break me like a promise / So casually cruel in the name of being honest. is an amazing line.

pandemic, Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

oh my god and the delivery you have no idea.

that song alone you should listen to because it is swift doing best what she does best.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

after two listens I find the album lumpy, misshapen. Even the songs she wrote by herself sound too deliberate, too studio-bound. I don't hate it though. The album reminds me of Miranda Lambert's own uneven last albums -- young women who created a character and now struggling for a sound and ethos commensurate with their maturity.

I do like "Stay Stay Stay" though -- it's a perfect throwaway.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

Don't particularly like Swift's music or any of the new songs I've heard, but I do love the idea of someone so totally aware that the song she just recorded will get played a lot on the radio and will drive her ex crazy, not least because she crafted it to be the polar opposite of music from a completely different scene that she is also totally aware of.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 October 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

"begin again" is incredible

heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 18 October 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

"dance around the kitchen in the refrigerator light" OHHHHHH MANN.

Agreed. Although the real killer is "After plaid shirt days and nights when you made me your own /
Now you mail back my things and I walk home alone." "When you made me your own" made me start when I was first listening to the song - the clearest indication yet that she's not about fairy tales and princesses anymore. The picking back up on the scarf at the end of the song is brilliant - it's like whatever Chekhov said about a loaded gun in act one that must go off in act five.

But the "dance around the kitchen in the refrigerator light" is a brilliant line, too, and it recalls the "dance around the room in your PJs getting ready for school" line in "Never Grow Up." And there's a section of "All Too Well" that looks at the boyfriend's childhood in the same way as she looked at her own in "Never Grow Up" -

Photo album on my counter
Your cheeks were turning red
You used to be a little kid with glasses in a twin size bed
And your mother's telling stories 'bout you on the t-ball team

recalls

Your little hands wrapped around my finger
And it's so quiet in the world tonight
Your little eyelids flutter 'cause you're dreaming
So I tuck you in, turn on your favorite night light

She has a collection of core themes and images that she returns to over and over again in her songwriting. Although I think "All Too Well" might be her best song yet.

Driver 8, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

"Starlight" has maybe the greatest chorus melody of any song that she, or anyone, has ever written.

Driver 8, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

btw lex, great piece

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah. Really good.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

or should I say LEGIT piece

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

nice piece lex!

there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

Now you mail back my things and I walk home alone." "When you made me your own" made me start when I was first listening to the song - the clearest indication yet that she's not about fairy tales and princesses anymore. The picking back up on the scarf at the end of the song is brilliant - it's like whatever Chekhov said about a loaded gun in act one that must go off in act five.

― Driver 8, Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:12 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no longer chekhov's gun, it is not deemed taylor's scarf

heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

now* instead of not

heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Agreed. Future literature students will study Taylor's scarf.

Driver 8, Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

extended bridge in 'holy ground' sounds exactly like "to call for hands above to lean on, wouldn't be good enough for me no"

uberweiss, Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

just read your piece lex, super stuff. would be nice if the haters could find another thread to hang out on but yknowitsilm.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

the what

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

A+, lex

nice suit (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

"haters"

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

"Starlight" is proof that Taylor is from an advanced civilization in the future, and has been sent back in time to teach us how to perfect popular music.

Driver 8, Friday, 19 October 2012 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

"Starlight" X-post with the Segue thread--

Oh my, what a marvelous tune
It was the best night, never would forget how we moved
The whole place was dressed to the nines
And we were dancin, Dancin' with Mr. D

Cheeba McEntire, Friday, 19 October 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

Great interview/analysis, Lex. The closing bit about the car is great.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 19 October 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)

it's cool how incestuous this place is that nobody even bothers to link to the piece

turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 19 October 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

What's it going to take for TS to listen to and love this album before she starts writing her next release?
http://991.com/gallery_180x180/Rickie-Lee-Jones-Pirates-298551-991.jpg

Cheeba McEntire, Friday, 19 October 2012 05:35 (thirteen years ago)

what's this lex's article you guys are talking about?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 19 October 2012 05:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/oct/18/taylor-swift-want-believe-pretty-lies

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Friday, 19 October 2012 05:41 (thirteen years ago)

enjoyed it, nice job lex.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 19 October 2012 08:40 (thirteen years ago)

thanks y'all

lex pretend, Friday, 19 October 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

do i school the commenters who are going on about slut-shaming and virginal images? can't be bovd tbh

lex pretend, Friday, 19 October 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)

just don't even fucking go there. guardian comments are such a cesspit of fat middle aged men in offices swinging their tiny dicks around.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 19 October 2012 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

there are always a couple of really nice ones though!

really i don't scan the "i don't even like pop music" ones any more (like wtf are you doing commenting on an article ABOUT POP MUSIC then), but the ongoing "TS is feminism's worst nightmare" beef is just based in so many outright inaccuracies that it annoys me particularly. just wanna thoroughly fisk those arguments

lex pretend, Friday, 19 October 2012 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

you should!

k3vin k., Friday, 19 October 2012 09:53 (thirteen years ago)

Good piece, The Lex. So happy I can't see the comments from here.

Tim, Friday, 19 October 2012 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

speaking as a noncommittal non-close reading average-ass listener, this is a v good album and i thoroughly enjoyed it. (apart from when snow patrol dude showed up). (also maybe a couple songs too long, not that the songs are bad).

congrats to the lex first and foremost for introducing the guardian to "throwing shade"

r|t|c, Friday, 19 October 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Irl fistpump when that wasn't subbed out

lex pretend, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

really enjoyed the piece lex. can't wait to hear this.

tpp, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

Um. Confession. The Ed Sheeran track is really growing on me. Alot. I was skipping it but then I wasn't paying attention and I've heard it three or four times now and I kind of like it a lot.

Not as much as my new favourite 'Stay Stay Stay' but still.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 19 October 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

AND I GUESS WE FELL APART IN THE USUAL WAY
AND THE STORY'S GOT DUST ON EVERY PAGE

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 October 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

stay stay stay for real is taylor effortlessly doing what she does best. like 'ours' it's not super ponderous or deep or whatever. it's a trifle.

but it's the kind of thing that delights and is delightfully crafted and that she could probably write in her sleep in 2012.

it's also the only thing that has the pure joy of something like 'hey stephen'. nuTaylor joyousness is A++ wonderful, but her ability to convey it without the big sweep of strings is fun too.

(see also: the piss-take joyful relishing of stealing a man at the altar in 'speak now')

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

anyway, i was wrong about it. it's not cutesy. it's funny.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure we almost broke up last night / i threw my phone across the room at you / i was expecting some dramatic turn away but youuuuuuuu / stayed.

this morning i said we should talk about it / because i heard you should never leave a fight unresolved / that's when you came in wearing a football helmet / and said "okay, let's talk"

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

oh my god the football helmet line totally passed me by until now

that

wow

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 October 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

i really don't get the criticism that the lyrics aren't as special. there are so many perfectly judged lines on this album, so many passing details that you almost miss and so many elegant ways of putting things.

"all we know / is touch and go / we are alone with our changing minds" - and then you remember that the casual, low-key "changing minds" is one of those swiftian motifs, not as obvious as tuesday nights or kissing in the rain, but her way of conveying how heartbreak is so easily and thoughtlessly inflicted, and the line becomes devastating. and then what she changes it to a verse later! "all we know / is don't let go / we are alone, just you and me / up in your room and our slates are clean" - forgiveness of the previous verse, redemption of it.

"put your lips close to mine, as long as they don't touch / out of focus, eye to eye til the gravity's too much" - and they say she presents herself as virginal. L-O-L.

recurrence of traffic lights throughout this!

lex pretend, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

interesting angle on the album, and taylor generally: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/oct/18/taylor-swift-red-review

real pity it was just a capsule review, b/c there are some things to unpack in there! impressive that at this point anyone can come up with a really original angle on taylor that i've never seen before.

lex pretend, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

also i'm kind of impressed that "the lucky one" continues to go undiscussed considering how baity it is (and as a song it's getting kinda underrated! the twist is awesome!)

lex pretend, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)


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