Pop punk 4 evah!
― bendy, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Current working theory is that seetickets have misunderstood a banner gig title for some smallish bands. And Harvey seems to be gigging in Australia with The Triffid people on at least one of those dates.
― woofwoofwoof, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Absolutely classic. I'll bet if I put on Mutiny, and Nick came on with "Hand's up, who wants to die!" I would drop 20 years and be stagediving off my desk, much to the concern of everyone in my office.
The gig I saw in '83 right after that one dropped is one of my all-time faves.
I vote right now for Mick Harvey as best not-really-the-drummer-but-beating-the-skins-right-now-anyway in a significant band, so much so that I can never remember what's-his-name's name usually. Of course he could be a prick, but in my experience all good drummers are that way sometimes (present company included).
― factcheckr, Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Birthday Party reunion? STRENUOUSLY unlikely, but y'know ..... I said that about Bauhaus.
I don't see Cave doing it -- seems like something he'd find abhorent. And, really..... at the end of the day, without Tracey Pew, it won't be the Birthday Party.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't see Harvey doing it, esp. after he just left The Bad Seeds.
― Zeno, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Very good point.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Alex OTM Re: Pew. But it's also a crying shame that nobody's playing these songs live anymore...
― StanM, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
"The Friend Catcher" is an undeniable song
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Tracks that needed to be added to "Hits": Guilt Parade / The Hair Shirt / Blundertown / Several Sins / Kiss Me Black / Six Strings That Drew Blood.
Fixed.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Absolute classic. all of it.
― Duke, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
with so many brilliant tracks, 90% of their catalogue should be added to "hits"xpost
― Zeno, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
classic
― peacocks, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
yes!
― adamj, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
odd how the imagery & style of the birthday party hang over so much subsequent "goth" culture, but how few goth bands seem to take any real musical inspiration from them. thinking this while listening to junkyard, you know: "dead joe", "big jesus trash can", etc.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link
are you familiar with the Phantom Limbs?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
goth = mosrly boring,pretentious , one dimensional, uninspired music.birthday party - the opposite, and more:a salad of musical genres.
maybe the only thing in common is the inolvement with "dark" issues. but thats about it.
― Zeno, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
goth is like one of the few genres that people feel 100% comfortable describing (and dismissing) monolithically, ascribing outliers some not-of-the-genre-because-they're-good status
which I think is kinda bullshit tbqf
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― sarahel, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
well, it's imo. and i said "mostly".
never liked goth tbh.
― Zeno, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
huh-uh. reading up on them (assuming you mean the oakland band that broke up not too long back) and they sound pretty cool. these guys"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUw7qwQG-QY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL9r3iOHsA4&feature=related
like
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
yep that would be them.
― sarahel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i was about to askk: there are 3 bands named like that in myspace
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link
is this goth? cause it's good, if somewhat repetetive.
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link
dismissal of goth is lame. lots of excellent shit that partakes of the dark nectar. as shakey mentioned yesterday, it's hard to separate early black metal from goth. and i love early cure, siouxie, bauhaus, j&mc, etc. sonic youth started off w a big goth influence, swans carried one all the way through their career.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
good goth bands:
the sisters of mercychristian deaththe birthday partythe march violetssiouxsie & the banshees (yes, they are)tex & the horseheadsthe gun club (outlying, but really pretty damn goth)probably a dozen more I'm forgetting
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
xp - Phantom Limbs were a key band in the SF Bay Area goth scene in the late 90s
― sarahel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
"sonic youth started off w a big goth influence"
theres a difference between "inluence" and being strictly "goth".
"dismissal of goth is lame"
why? a man desrve to have his own opinion.
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
they were definitely goth-punk crossover
― sarahel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Sonic Youth was influenced more by no-wave tbh
― sarahel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
but Suicide were kinda gothy
very kinda
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
what would you classify as goth, Z?
― sarahel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
if Gun Club and BP are goth - i like me some goth.
i thought of this genre more of like Bauhaus (which i hate) and Joy Division (which i like)
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
do you think Bauhaus are "one-dimensional"?
― sarahel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gothic_rock_bands
i don't know half of this list.from the other half: i like some, hate some more and indifferent to most.
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
yah no doubt
it is the opinion of many that blanket dismissals of whole genres is lame
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link
the gun club (outlying, but really pretty damn goth)
good call. and fire of love = all time classic hereabouts.
thing about sonic youth & no wave vs. goth is that both were in there and not separated from one another. i mean, by the time they got around to recording "death valley '69" w lydia lunch, she'd become at least as much an icon to goths as she'd ever been a no wave poster girl. and that was relatively early in their (SY's career). it's hard for me to listen to their output from the bad moon rising through evol and not hear it as alternate-universe gothmusik. i mean, i remember playing sister for these two diehard christian death fanatics back when it came out, and they were blown away, saw it as totally goth, totally of their scene, right or wrong.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i need to re-listen to them more seriously (it's been at least 10 years) but my initial inuiation and memory says "yes"
xxpost
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link
no wave was pretty much a musical blip
― sarahel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i always thought as Evol os THE sy goth-influenced record. and it'a a great record.
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess the thing that bother me the most about Goth is the lack of humour
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I think your memory is faulty - Bauhaus is probably one of the least one-dimensional goth bands i can think of.
― sarahel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i like the Lydia Lunch 13.13 record very much:
the awesome Live Skull are actually a combination between this and sonic youth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0plWUmzpdwI&feature=related
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
ok, maybe i was somewhat exaggerating about Goth.i'm gonna wear black , put some heavy make up and make a big nose pierce for atonement
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
sarah OTM re bauhaus. though zeno does have a point about humor and goth: it's too often (though not always) absent. helps if you include black humor, natch. plus the inherent comedy value of self-seriousness and extremity.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
on that note, khanate as goth
humour is not meant to be diggen deep and hard to find.
― Zeno, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno - i thought the lyric "o classic gentlemen with your ... fish" was pretty blatantly hilarious
― sarahel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link
xp sez you! lots of things seem serious on first viewing/reading and reveal their humor only to people willing to dig deeper
cf. the entire careers of david lynch & stanley kubrick
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
and faulkner