@hateindierock - opposed to the bourgeois selfish privilege orgy that is modern corporate youth culture worldwide

rip david shapiro & the magnetic 0.0s

WAIT WHOA. Someone is tweeting anonymously about indie rock? Let's all talk about it!

EVERYBODY GET IN HERE

Jazz is a dead language because no one wants to address unspeakable feelings that we all have.

*plop*

wait is this a poll? do we pick one?

But almost everyone has their culture mediated by the same three corporations now. That's the beginning of a dystopian sci fi novel

my choice

call me dat ishmael. I live in FUTURESTATE. all of our culture is mediated by universal, Warner bros, and Kraft foods.

already hooked

I am pretty surprised that there haven't been bands named 'weyland yutani' or 'omni consumer products' ... yet

Not being into mediocre gibberish made by people with nothing to say shouldn't sound so radical.

It really does drive home what a small and insular community with a massively inflated sense of self worth indie rock is. Every time some one starts something like this, time stops because somene decided to engage with THE CULTURE for more than 10 minutes

The modern music press is governed by antidepressants and student loan debt.

Its the same thing that happened with Brooklyn Vegan, @discographies, Carles & Shapiro.

Dude engages with THE INTERNET about indie rock and it's relationship with THE INTERNET, ILX blows gasket, alt-weeklies interview him about how they REALLY FEEL about music, job offers happen because someone managed to BEAT THE SYSTEM and get XXX followers off the grid, and everyone moves on to MOLECULAR GASTRONOMY HULK or whatever.

But by all means keep posting about this. This will be different

or maybe ilm is just bored on a sunday morning??

dying @ MOLECULAR GASTRONOMY HULK btw

wait who's blowing a gasket besides you

IT NOT FOAM IT ESSENCE

I found that essence foam

Another sad American youngster waking up to the fakeness of his culture, thinking he can dig beneath the surface fakeness to find the realness. But when he gets down there all he'll find is cheetoes. The whole country is built on cheetoe infill.

haha whiney you are so fucking busted i saw you retweet this guy before this thread got busy

http://twitter.com/1000TimesYes/statuses/256870732028604416

haha by all means keep posting about this

this thread had hardly any posts until whiney posted

If you could push a button and -- whoops, rong thread

Since he's probably also spazzmatazz I think it's safe to say it had zero

haha whiney you are so fucking busted i saw you retweet this guy before this thread got busy
--Mordy

I'm not gonna lie, I immediately regretted it hahahaha

whoa a lot of people i know are following this guy!
they are all music writers and jazz musicians

of course they're music writers

a couple noise dudes too.

Perennial hand-wringing and P4K finger-pointing is So Tedious. I like this guy's anti-capitalism slant, though, that's fun.

@hateindierock did that move where he followed like 600 accounts, mostly music writers with many followers, then unfollowed them all after acquiring enough buzz/retweets/followers of his own. Kinda ironic, for somebody who decries cynicism

Well, he's a) calling out people for anti-intellectualism and b) has chosen Twitter as his medium. PLOT HOLES

it's a good thing punk rock won

Hmm, the big and recurrent fallacy in this perennial shit-show is decrying of a lack of underground. I don't know what underground these losers are missing. Everywhere I look there are great bands and great records who have not enough fans to monetize anything but garage shows and freebies, I don't get it

they have a tweet about how the underground is mostly local now.

i read it.

local cults, i think they called it.

wow! you just can't win with this guy. I wonder what band he was in

keep local bands weird

i actually read this WHOLE thing the other day. i a have no idea why. talk about making indie rock sound sad:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/oct/11/godspeed-black-emperor-interview-full-transcript

you'd think they were trying to start a farm worker's union or something instead of just occasionally make canadian snooze rock.

and i think a trip to haiti is in order for those guys:

"Montreal's a place that's always losing its charm. It's a corrupt city in a corrupt province, where somehow the light rings loudly anyhow. So many crazy plans hatched in spite of, so many minor miracles. The dust of this place is caked into our scalps and beneath our nails – there would be no band if it weren't for this lovely rotten town."

the dirty stinking dust of motreal. mon dieu!

But now we all live in harder times, now a whole lot of bands react to the current heaviness by privileging the party times, like some weird Scientology will-to-power bullshit, hit that hi-hat with a square's fist until we all make it to heaven, until Sunday morning's bringdown. Self-conscious good vibes like love-handles poking through some 22-year-old's American Apparel T-shirt at some joint where you can only dance once you pay a $10 cover charge just to listen to some internet king's iPod.

haha good grief

I for one applaud them for successfully monetizing about six or seven different tropes of DIY/punk rock aesthetic/anti-nationalism/"classical music"/"metal"/"mystery politix" and have done so in a way that has mostly benefitted their listeners and other folks in their city and my city and possibly yours, but yeah.

I mean, I <3 them but yeah.

they haven't benefited anyone from my city

We're all of us born beneath the weight of piss-poor governance. It's a miracle that so many of us make it through our teens. Politics is for politicians and all our politicians have the whiff of death to them, it's why they wear so much perfume and cologne, it's why they wear brightly coloured scarves and ties, just to distract from the pallor of their skin. So many of us just want to live away from that stench – we stagger towards the light awkwardly, astonished that so many of us are staggering together thusly, amen.

these people are like 43 y/os now, aren't they?

haha wow that interview is even more Society is in the gutter than the indie rock twitter

We were poor but we were happy. We knew the value of things. We never wondered about the value of valuing things.

It's a shambles.

― Local Garda, Monday, August 25, 2008 4:04 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hes reading Sanctuary!

If I was a young teenager again, I think I would spray paint on an alleyway wall;

The Internet Is full Of The Sad Uptight

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So he/she wants to start a "computer publication" highlighting underground / alternative music. Which is how p4k started, right?

every generation gets the altered zones it deserves

So.. wait, does this people hate indie rock or love it or what?

they love it and want to marry it but can't stop talking about that guy it went out with once in high school and how lame he was

self-hating indie rockers are the worst imo

INDIE GUILT, TWIT LARGE

xpost and i'm one of them, so...

LOL tracer