song is excellent, lyrics are tasteless, should be a hit. feels like if Drake stopped trying to be clever/self-aware and became the amoral party animal he's always whining about turning into
― beta male misogyny is here to stay (bernard snowy), Saturday, 13 October 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)
also whoever talked about "blankness" upthread was OTM tenfold
― beta male misogyny is here to stay (bernard snowy), Saturday, 13 October 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)
misogyny-as-camp or something
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, October 13, 2012 4:15 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark
i think his delivery kinda breaks this idea down
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)
it was worth a shot
― 乒乓, Saturday, 13 October 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:12 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
admittedly my statement is kind of vague but how do u mean?
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, 13 October 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)
I don't really read any camp in his songs... his delivery seems very serious to me. And then you have things like that extended phone conversation at the end of one song... Idk
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)
"misogyny as camp" seems like an escape lever you could pull in any discussion, frankly
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)
i dont mean irony i mean playing it up to an extreme
its not about whether or not its OK for him to do it, nor is it supposed to be a get out of jail free card or something, hes completely vulnerable to criticisms of sexism obvi
im more trying to explain why i still listen to it w/ out being grossed out or w/e, shit is so surface level reprehensible that it registers as faintly ridiculous
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, 13 October 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)
I Think I Know Where D-40 Got The Farting Thing From
1. Toot It & Boot It 145 up, 15 down
When a boy or a girl has a one night stand. To hit it and quit it. Freaky people who usually sex alot of different people.
2. Toot It & Boot It 14 up, 31 down
Farting and ducking out
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, August 8, 2010 5:34 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark
― NINO CARTER, Saturday, 13 October 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)
WEINGARTEN
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, 13 October 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2751
― zvookster, Saturday, 13 October 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)
so much for the strength of street knowledge am i right
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, 13 October 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)
"farting and ducking out" has 31 down votes to 14 upvotes
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, October 13, 2012 4:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i mean i'm still playing it too but i think calling it camp is pretty generous -- he comes off to me as someone who couldn't get a girl till sophomore year of college and relentlessly shits on women as an adult as a result
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)
so i buy the "playing it up to an extreme" thing, but i'm not sure that makes it more acceptable
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)
well obviously it does b/c you're listening to it
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, 13 October 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)
at very minimum, u tolerate it
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, 13 October 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)
perhaps even indulge in the indulgence of power dynamics u know are wrong & irresponsible
i actually don't think there's much going on w/ this in terms of "power dynamics" -- i don't buy his pimp shtick
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)
the songcraft on this is incredibly strong and it wins out over the pretty gross content for me -- it's a testament to his talents in that regard than anything regarding his persona not being as bad as it seems
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)
pimp schtick = power dynamics
i dont think u can separate 'ugly content' from 'great songcraft' like that. hes pretty blatant and up-front with his misogyny so its not the kind of thing u really overlook imo
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, 13 October 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)
you are right tho that i use the ty dollar $ign mixtape as a way to indulge my secret misogynistic fantasies, you got me on that one
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)
so in ignition (remix) is r kelly asking his girl to fart (two times)
― 乒乓, Saturday, 13 October 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:06 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this abstract 'i just appreciate its great songcraft' ish is a cop out tho
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, 13 October 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)
you said his misogyny is camp!
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 23:26 (thirteen years ago)
anyway it's not a cop out -- in general i fall far on the side of the argument that music doesn't have to agree with my morals. this pushes right up against that and if he wasn't a great writer i wouldn't really feel the need to keep engaging with it. i'm trying to figure out how to feel about it.
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 October 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)
guys this is a lot simpler if you realize ~~you are the hoes~~
― some dude, Saturday, 13 October 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)
--so in ignition (remix) is r kelly asking his girl to fart (two times)--
Lol
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 14 October 2012 04:06 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDWzSiEwWxs
skip to 1:07
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 25 October 2012 10:52 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCv-qrlRrI
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 25 October 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)
that's some serious crate-diggin here.
― sisilafami, Thursday, 25 October 2012 12:05 (thirteen years ago)
that's pretty amazing
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/who-is-ty-dolla-sign
find out how many hoes fit in his cabana (yes he has a cabana)
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Friday, 26 October 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)
Nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXd_RtLihT0
This is my jam these days btw.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Saturday, 27 October 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)
show me why you deserve itTWERKTWERK
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Sunday, 28 October 2012 06:53 (thirteen years ago)
whoa i totally forgot that this guy had a hand in quik/free's "nothing" aka one of my fav songs of the last two years -- anyone know what exactly he did on the song (write the hook?)
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 November 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)
i started singing this song to myself the other day on returning from the fridge with a kabanos
― r|t|c, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)
that's all i got, sorry
assuming u mean "nobody" wikipedia says: "Tydolla$ign did not actually sing on the hook but appeared to be singing it in the music video" and he's not credited as a writer lol
― flopson, Saturday, 1 December 2012 03:27 (thirteen years ago)
weird... he was credited with a feature on the ilm 2011 tracks results. this is all a mystery to me.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 December 2012 03:28 (thirteen years ago)
he's in the video (not wearing a perm tho)
― flopson, Saturday, 1 December 2012 03:29 (thirteen years ago)
according to rapgenius the hook is sung by [Hook: DJ Quik impersonating Suga Free]
― flopson, Saturday, 1 December 2012 03:31 (thirteen years ago)
this is dope (xpost w/ MANN thread)
http://hiphop-n-more.com/2013/04/mann-cookies-og-feat-ty-dolla-ign/
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:24 (thirteen years ago)
Jeezy remix version videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a09INp3zlY
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:18 (thirteen years ago)
this guy has some hits on the way imo
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-hsiYfiEqg
also this is dope
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:17 (thirteen years ago)
Paranoid off the DJ Mustard tape is great.
― longneck, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:13 (thirteen years ago)
if it just means hit it & quit it thats way more boring i assumed 'toot it' was based around farting after sex or something
if not thats kind of disappointing
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:52 (8 months ago) Permalink
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:18 (thirteen years ago)
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/tinyservants/bedsprings_zps5b8e9d8a.gif
― slam dunk, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:07 (thirteen years ago)
haha
― Poster The Sheeple (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:10 (thirteen years ago)