The ILM 1980s Anti-Rolling Stone Canon (FREE PUSSY RIOT) Rock Poll Results - ALBUMS! Top 20! ends today

Albums results playlist by hellhouse
http://open.spotify.com/user/1234500846/playlist/29WgnIq2XbpntkEJYkZeoR

I'd say that Ethel Merman impersonator = Jello Biafra but that's not giving Merman enough credit.

no jello is an ethel merman impersonator impersonating a sammy davis jr impersonator with a mouth full of tapioca pudding

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Make your predictions folks because its
PREDICTIONS TIME

Might start earlier tomorrow about noon-ish just so we don't finish too late. Hope to see you all there.

I predict sonic youth, husker du, vanilla road, some other stuff

Zoogz Rift will be ruling over all from his fortress of living puke.

Oh wow, a lot of stuff going on since I last checked in here.
Neubauten \m/ Es tanzt das Zet-En-Es

I've got to say that I'm a little shocked that Number of the Beast, Master of Puppets, Pretty Hate Machine, and Fresh Fruit all placed so low. I figured all of those would have been in top 20.

I KNOW RIGHT

Their fans didn't vote/assumed everyone else would vote for it so left it out or placed low/It's ILM.

I did not vote in this poll because it seemed complicated. That said, and even though I'm still not really quite sure what it's about, there are some great albums placing! I am now reminded that I haven't listened to Pretty Hate Machine in years and years even though I loved the hell out of it when I was kid and probably still know most of it by heart. Gonna try to find it now. Well done Kerr - this seems like it must have been one hell of an undertaking.

I went for my nightly walk tonight & listened to PHM - can report that it is still awesoem

Cheers enbb but you should just have voted for the albums you liked in the nominations list!

I did not vote in this poll because it seemed complicated.

yea i always feel the same way with these big nomination threads and wind up not participating. also i'm constantly tired + distractible soooo that's kinda the real issue.

like following these while they roll out a lot! i always learn stuff.

IMO the core of the band’s aesthetic thrust was essentially formed around this record, and I would say that every document recorded thereafter is more-or-less an amalgam of Confusion is Sex and whatever genre SY happen to be exploring/appropriating at any given moment

At the same time, they were doing things on CIS that they abandoned afterwards. The use of prepared guitar techniques is the most notable example for me but the shift in Thurston's vocal style is also an example. Much of Sonic Youth's guitar noise later on was basically Hendrix-style feedback jams, sometimes with effects pedals. (They did focus on unusual chord voicings and dissonant harmonies derived from using alternate tunings, also on more intricate group interplay.) They were doing something pretty different at this stage. There are moments where the guitars even make me think a little of Fred Frith.

Still, there's something to be said for the way they just come together as a band on DN.

the something I said is "wow are they boring now"

(Still talking to myself about X: . . . I don't know, it's like they just fill a certain roots rock/punk edge slot for me. There are probably a lot of other bands that would be candidates but for some reason, X is the one for me. Virtually the same simple riffs would do nothing for me in some other context. It's not totally mysterious though. The rhythm section is a big part of it for me. It works like more obviously dance-oriented music, a lot of the time. Keeps things moving, rolling. Mixes it up. I'm just talking the first three albums here, of course. And I like the vocal harmonies. I don't love the vocals quite as much as I used to, and I can understand someone not being into them.

Listening to Wild Gift. Wow, this album is amazing.

I've said it before but I used to have a friend from Simi Valley, and when we couldn't agree on what to listen to, we almost always ended up listening to X by default.)

(Haha, I forgot how great this album is. I just wish I had remembered to flip it to my first place instead of Los Angeles. There is not one bad cut on this album.)

yyeah I was surprised LA appeared over WG

btw: Hex is too fucking low

methinks for the casual X fan LA > WG

love,
a casual X fan

Part of me want to go all 'TOO LOW' for FFRV but otoh when the rollout start from 400 then the whole top 50, even top 100 starts to feel like its right up in the peaks.

Also Rudipherous I agree with a lot of what you're saying about X. When I said before that I like the big feels-like-a-single songs before it wasn't really meant as a slight on the band, more just an indication of where I think their strengths lie. They were def amongst the best at integrating rockabilly and rootsy elements in a punk context (something which in other hands can often come out a big naff).
Not being able to make choices like LA vs Wild Gift is why I went for unweighted ballots.

WG made my ballot but LA did not. Beyond and Back cinched it for me

Pretty funny that Manilla Road and Candlemass beat "Number of the Beast" and "Master...". Its been said before,, but only on ILM!

Never heard of Manilla Road until this morning. If it beat 'Ace of Spades' and 'Back In Black' then it'd better be good.

It's a bit of a cult favourite round here. I think it's okay, can't really see why it's that highly rated though. No doubt AG will have a view.

IMO the core of the band’s aesthetic thrust was essentially formed around this record, and I would say that every document recorded thereafter is more-or-less an amalgam of Confusion is Sex and whatever genre SY happen to be exploring/appropriating at any given moment

this is hilariously rong! fewer long running bands have used their debut LESS as a template for later albums than Sonic Youth!

At the same time, they were doing things on CIS that they abandoned afterwards. The use of prepared guitar techniques is the most notable example for me but the shift in Thurston's vocal style is also an example. Much of Sonic Youth's guitar noise later on was basically Hendrix-style feedback jams, sometimes with effects pedals. (They did focus on unusual chord voicings and dissonant harmonies derived from using alternate tunings, also on more intricate group interplay.) They were doing something pretty different at this stage. There are moments where the guitars even make me think a little of Fred Frith.

during the first couple of years of the band’s existence, they were tentatively making their way through the early post-no-wave landscape. they hadn’t yet fully committed to hard rock as an outlet for their no wave leanings, and on the first record they have a provisional style that finds them in the process of exploring but not fully embracing rock as a potential lens for their aesthetic. by the time they recorded Confusion is Sex, however, the band had found their calling as a hard rock band. There’s nothing tentative about Inhuman, Brother James, The World Looks Red, She’s in a Bad Mood, Shaking Hell, or Kill Yr. Idols (I’m obv including the Kill Yr. Idols material from the same period). all of the essential, signature Sonic Youth elements are fully present in their purest incarnation, and in this sense I would compare Confusion is Sex to Damaged. Yes, they would of course with every subsequent record add various ornamental elements, but the foundation of a no-wave/art-rock sensibility channeled through a hard rock framework remained unchanged. I don’t think we necessarily disagree, except that I find myself increasingly disinterested in their output as they exhaust the possible permutations of their fundamental style as the years drag on, increasingly diluting their core strengths in a search for novel variations that IMO deliver, as I said above, increasingly diminishing aesthetic returns that nonetheless allow them to drag out their career f/a very long time.

80s Halen >>>>> almost everything else on this list

― some dude, Monday, September 24, 2012 9:38 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is hilariously rong! fewer long running bands have used their debut LESS as a template for later albums than Sonic Youth!

― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:34 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I would expect that yr. the v. last person on the board to agree w/me on this matter, but thanks f/yr. thoughtful critique.

ha, did I say "increasingly" enough? never post before five cups of coffee...

xp

40 Melvins - Ozma 1149 Points, 21 Votes
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i266/pictvre5/melvins_ozma.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/4EJjE4wbBtOdtDhmh0w4y0

hellhouse what do those 2 posts have to do w/ each other? SY is my favorite band so i dunno if there's some bullshit 'well a van halen fan would say that' bullshit at play here. i can present a longer, more considered version of my argument but the 'thoughtful critique' line sounded sarcastic so i probably shouldn't bother.

SY is my favorite band of all time but i don't really know where they fit in this poll or why they're here, didn't put much on my ballot

― some dude, Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:42 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, I know, I'm the one who's been terrible rude here, so please take your ball and go. as someone who's not even sure why SY belong in a hard-rock poll, though, maybe you should just stick to the sidelines on this one. besides, we've already seen the pointlessness of extended discussions about SY, and I don't expect many people, especially you, especially f/the above quote, to agree w/me, so there's not much point in dragging this out. we all know DDN is going to be the top SY rec, or, if ILM voters have been feeling particularly challopsy, Sister, and that's that. I'm not trying to win converts so much as say my peace and be done w/the matter.

I'd rather we discussed how awesome Melvins are.

AG OTM.

certainly don't think we've seen anywhere near the last of Melvins.

39 The Gun Club - Fire of Love 1150 Points, 16 Votes
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EHJOczLdIII/T8wGb55EnaI/AAAAAAAAAF8/r0t9F_T4dmw/s1600/tumblr_lp8onwwzYc1qzezj5o1_r1_500.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3OrGW7wRB8dIZ8EYrAkkWW

nice. great cover too!

re. my Melvins call, i keep forgetting that this is an 80s poll. in fact i've defaulted a couple of times to the expectation that a whole bunch of 90s albums are going to start cropping up.

hellhouse, that post was from the tracks poll -- i was referring more to how i think of SY as an albums band and loaded my tracks ballot up with singles by bands with radio hits. but whatever, blowhard, idgaf.

yeah, that Gun Club album packs a real punch.

can someone please point me to a good youtube of the gun club

- this is a band i have often suspected i would love, but the lack of options via fopp et al, means i have never had the chance to dive in ..

i think it sounds like the sultans of ping f.c. 's "swamp blues" album

Gun Club seem to have become fashionable again, at least over here in the UK. Bands like the Jim Jones Revue are constantly citing them as an influence.

^^^^ indeed. hence why i'd like to hear more ..

hellhouse, that post was from the tracks poll -- i was referring more to how i think of SY as an albums band and loaded my tracks ballot up with singles by bands with radio hits. but whatever, blowhard, idgaf.

then quit trolling the fucking poll.

just kiss already

i'm trolling the albums poll because you're cherrypicking posts from the OTHER poll out of countext as evidence that i don't understand the poll? wtf is your problem? i've given AG a hard time here and there but he's been a good sport about it and has welcomed my contributions to the thread, and after all it's his fucking poll, not yours. all 5 SY albums are on my ballot btw.

lol xpost