The ILM 1980s Anti-Rolling Stone Canon (FREE PUSSY RIOT) Rock Poll Results - ALBUMS! Top 20! ends today

"where a passing jjj caught it and thus his life was changed"

dan was i actually in the car when that happened or have i just remembered the story so many times that i just think i was

lol

given how much we used to hang out together it is super likely you were there

What age were you?

well esp if i knew you were going somewhere with records, i might have just leapt out and clung to the bumper as you passed my driveway

14?

I think it was just me and my mom though? And then I called you immediately afterward all "DUDE SOMETHING HAPPENED TO MINISTRY, EVERY DAY IS NO LONGER HALLOWEEN"

xp: we would have been 15, I bought that album the week it came out in 88

66 Minutemen - Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat 740 Points, 15 Votes
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vY8I5HvOvk8/TUxyYBXG2ZI/AAAAAAAAPLw/mfbxq00ucbY/s1600/61NNcBNu%252BwL__SS500_.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5G6YCclLa3K8lPuFNMbw4x

AG - you wrapping this up tomorrow or Fri?

what distinguishes LORAH from middling subsequent efforts is the circumstances which birthed it, i.e. the dissolution of jourgensen's marriage. after that his generic angers about society didn't drive the same teeth-gnashing spleen that flows through LORAH like a downed power line. I spent thanksgiving '88 in a drug induced haze listening to it repeatedly.

also remember calling my college radio station to request "the missing", the DJ yanked it off halfway through and came back mumbling "what happened to ministry?"

i think getting the "stigmata" 12" lessened the shock a bit for me but i do remember thinking i hope they don't' take this new direction any further into metal!

hey ice machine

dammit now I'm thinking jjj WAS there to watch me accidentally assault my mom with LORAH

AG - you wrapping this up tomorrow or Fri?

Top 40 tomorrow

ed III i didnt know that abt the marriage thing but that makes a ton of sense and is really insightful abt the ministry drift

65 Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel - Hole 746 Points, 11 Votes
http://images.junostatic.com/full/CS1646874-02A-BIG.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/2Om1EwvyBu72NCMrhndcpJ

I didn't either and now I have an even deeper appreciation of "Flashback", which was already my favorite song on the album

So I prob agree with Edward that with X the big well-known songs are the best (also love Nausea, White Girl, Adult Books, We're Desperate etc).

But that's a good chunk of those first couple albums!

Yes, X is like a singles band, and most of the cuts on their first three albums were singles-worthy. After that it's very hit or miss.

At work and can't really get into this much. I think X does an amazing job of keeping their songs rolling, especially on the first three albums (or first two anyway, plus some of the third). Their songs are propulsive like music for dancing. To say the obvious, it is rock-and-roll, and close to the roots, yes, but spun in a way that caught me as a young teenager and still catches me.

oh man no foetus in the top 50, h8 u ilx

on the plus side I'm now listening to "Clothes Hoist"

super glad to see buzz or howl show up. even with its handful of meandering tracks, the blazers on here burn so brightly that in toto it's one of their most cohesive records.

the conclusion of "the product" where d boon wordlessly yammers in the waves of sound like some enthralled and massive sea beast is one of my favorite moments in musical history, pure joy

HOLE! my number 2 although i had to flip a coin over whether to make it no. 1 or not. a record that probably had a bigger initial impact on me on first listen than any other.

Are you ready for another shocking low entry especially considering how well a track from it did well in the tracks poll?

yes but first

PRODUCT THE PRODUCT THE PRODUCT THE PRODUCT THE PRODUCT THE PRODUCT THE PRODUCT THE PRODUCT
PRODUCT THE PRODUCT THE PRODUCT THE PRODUCT

THE PRODUCT OF CAPITALISM

Atomizer is my guess...

So I prob agree with Edward that with X the big well-known songs are the best (also love Nausea, White Girl, Adult Books, We're Desperate etc).

But that's a good chunk of those first couple albums!

Yes, X is like a singles band, and most of the cuts on their first three albums were singles-worthy. After that it's very hit or miss.

yeah I think I'm harsher on X's material, even from the canon albums there are 3-4 great songs and the rest are so uneventful I can live without hearing 'em ever again. like, here's all I need from the first 3:

http://open.spotify.com/user/edward_iii/playlist/4tgDHC2VcbnpeY1YrFzICU

im totally going to go home tonight and terrify my dog by playing RIFE really really loud

thx to listening to rife so many times before i could get my hands on hole, the version of clothes hoist on hole always sounds kind of quaint and cute.

64 Dinosaur Jr - Bug 758 Points, 14 Votes
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_28H6wqd-Z7I/TTm5J91RZPI/AAAAAAAAAiE/Fy3S1lRtcaU/s1600/Dinosaur%2BJr.%2B-%2BBug.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3V1DTSotrDIC14Zsb07S9S

oh phew

OK. Maybe Atomizer will place highly after all.

63 Minutemen - The Punch Line 758 Points, 14 Votes, One #1
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DtYkTjeW96k/TximQZzsjnI/AAAAAAAAAOU/ItN9xSv75J4/s1600/cover.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3nRg0CgSxbpXVd3yyujVN4

no minutemen fans around today?

xxxp Atomizer is a lock IMO

nail and hole ended up side-by-side on my ballot, with the edge going to hole. as I noted above, the production and scope of nail is staggering, especially in light of where studio technology was in 1985 - would love to read a 33 1/3 style book on its creation.

that said, the humor and sprawl of hole wins out for me. at times on nail it feels as though thirlwell fell under the spell of lower east side downers like swans, attempting to suck all the light out of his songs, but that's an arms race he was never gonna win. and altho ironically-heightened misogyny is part and parcel of the foetus sideshow, "pigswill" always rubbed me the wrong way.

dude I already rambled abt the minutemen

Predictable choice thought it is, Double Nickels is genuinely my fave Minutemen album. Punch Line & Buzz Or Howl are still excellent though and I'm glad to see them placing well (haven't listened to Punch Line for quite a long time though).

62 Einsturzende Neubauten - Halber Mensch 785 Points, 13 Votes
http://www.vinylsurrender.com/Graphics/AlbumCovers2/Einsturzende%20Neubauten%20-%20Halber%20Mensch.jpg

i love nail but my love for it has diminished over time while that for hole has remained steadfast. the production on nail is mind-blowing and i too would like to read a 33 1/3 style book about its making but mr. ruin's macho posturing throughout it does grate a bit on my ears while his wordplay seemed to be trying to be too clever unlike hole which has moments of genuine genius / hysterical lyric writing. anything (viva) and the pigdome comes remain forever classic though. xp

halber mensch my no. 3.

you know you can REALLY hear the precursor to a lot of the Venture Brothers music on Hole

I could've conceivably voted for any of the minutemen noms but restricted myself to a single album

xp Absolutely! It only adds to my love of the Venture Bros.

Minutemen are such an effortlessly loveable band I think.

same thing w/ einsturzende, halber mensch is the one I went for as being best emblematic of their various impulses and prolly the one I listen to most, tho I think drawings of patient OT is a more beserk listening experience overall

some ppl hate the minutemen tho

61 Wipers - Youth Of America 788 Points, 12 Votes One #1
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I'm surprised to see covers I don't recognize at all from bands I was/am at least very aware of (e.g. that last Einsturzende, and also one earlier from Meat Puppets, I think).

re no foetus in the top 50 : i agree, but still, the fact that all 3 of the classic trilogy gets some ilm love in such a massive wide ranging list proves that this is the place for me.

my vinyl copy of hole is a double 12" w/ the album on one and a compilation of EP tracks on the other: http://www.discogs.com/Scraping-Foetus-Off-The-Wheel-Hole/release/137835

the 12" version of "wash it all off" just can't be played loud enough

http://youtu.be/TUC72cAWnsM