The ILM 1980s Anti-Rolling Stone Canon (FREE PUSSY RIOT) Rock Poll Results - ALBUMS! Top 20! ends today

i'd guess that as filth made it, cop will be in there (in the 70s?). i think it sounds very pleasant; 'why hide' is almost a lullaby.

Will start around 1-2pm I think.
Anyone late to the poll or catching up can still talk about the albums already in the 400-81.

not much to talk about in the last 320 albums imo

nail has one of the greatest production jobs of the 80s. wish he had done an entire album of "pigdom come" themes.

I used to spend summers with my grandparents in erie PA, all my friends there were metalheads who hung out drinking by the railroad tracks. they thought I listened to a bunch of punk rock bullshit, and one of the only things that was a hit w/ that crowd, inexplicably, was "the throne of agony".

I'm pretty sure I'm going to see most of the remainder of my ballot, save 2 or 3

kilslug ;_;

i'd guess that as filth made it, cop will be in there (in the 70s?). i think it sounds very pleasant; 'why hide' is almost a lullaby.

don't get me wrong, I love it, but it's not exactly a heart-warming and beloved chestnut. having read quite a few Swans reviews over the years, I think it's safe to say that it's their most loathed rec (save for perhaps The Burning World, which is obv loathed f/v. different reasons). I think Cop will make the cut, but when I started listening to it many years ago, very few people liked it and a lot of people I played it for hated it, and that impression is tough to shake.

i guess we're not gonna get any Minutemen LPs besides Double Nickels, huh?

No Means No are one of the most mind-blowing 60 plus/70 somethings I have ever seen.

Inspirational

it's a different world now dude

one where sunn 0))) sell out big clubs and doom is a major genre, not just an atmosphere in yr apartment

xp to hellhouse

i guess we're not gonna get any Minutemen LPs besides Double Nickels, huh?

will be v. surprised if The Punch Line and What Makes a Man Start Fires? don't make it.

it's a different world now dude

one where sunn 0))) sell out big clubs and doom is a major genre, not just an atmosphere in yr apartment

Oh, I'm well aware of the vast array of loud, dissonant music consumed these days. that doesn't make the notion of Cop as a critical fave any less foreign to the section of my brain that carries around those intense initial reactions from the past.

I think Cop will make the cut, but when I started listening to it many years ago, very few people liked it and a lot of people I played it for hated it, and that impression is tough to shake.

i had a few "cop" devoted friends who hated everything post "cop" as they thought it was too diluted but i also had a very close friend who decided if that was the kind of music i was into our friendship couldn't continue. it didn't. i love "cop" but if they had combined "greed" and "holy money' as one album, i think that would be my swans zenith.

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yeah if fIREHOSE did ok i'd imagine what makes a man start fires? is a certainty and punch line very likely

2600-track Spotify playlist for a brisk 80s tour:

http://open.spotify.com/user/1234500846/playlist/29WgnIq2XbpntkEJYkZeoR

I had the impression that fIREHOSE was more popular, or at least more commercially successful than the Minutemen?

That seems reasonable. It seemed like they built on the momentum they already had with the Minutemen for a while.

in the moment maybe - momentum plus better distribution from late 80s sst (vs early-mid 80s sst) and columbia. in 2012 no fucking way. last.fm stats - minutemen: 219,336 listeners, 6,363,443 scrobbles all time, firehose: 52,851 listeners, 720,511 scrobbles all time.

Wow.

i'm trying to think of other examples where a followup band was more successful in the moment at their peak or whatever but in the grand scheme of history nowhere near - clash vs bad (not sure this holds up to any scrutiny fwiw), mission of burma vs volcano suns, black flag vs rollins band, throwing muses vs belly, pixies vs breeders (very debatable), soundgarden vs audioslave (scared at the possibility this is true), amboy dukes vs damn yankees.

Gories vs. Dirbombs

DirTbombs

misfits vs danzig
sebadoh vs folk implosion
the jam vs the style council
the english beat vs general public vs fine young cannibals

the specials vs fun boy three vs the colourfield

sugar vs. huskers i think is pretty similar to firehose in that way

suicidal tendencies vs infectious grooves

i almost wrote sugar vs husker but that seemed even more debatable than breeders vs pixies. plus sugar fandom in athens and on ilx means i can't really get a grip on sugar's lasting popularity/legacy. obv much bigger at peak. last.fm stats fwiw - husker du: 293,064 listeners, 7,249,217 scrobbles all time, sugar: 103,197 listeners, 1,304,680 scrobbles all time. so maybe!

camper van beethoven vs. cracker

its weird how Up on the Sun placed lower here than on the generalist 80s albums poll; i really have no idea what to expect as we head towards the top...

Yeah. Reminds me to post this - the top 100 of the big 80s poll G refers to.
100. Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains [1984] (75 points, 5 votes)
98. (tie) Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Hole [1984] (76 points, 5 votes)
98. (tie) Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription [1987] (76 points, 5 votes)
97. Big Black - Atomizer [1986] (77 points, 8 votes)
96. Associates - Sulk [1982] (79 points, 6 votes)
95. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking [1988] (79 points, 7 votes)
94. Def Leppard - Pyromania [1983] (80 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
93. Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age of Wireless [1982] (80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
92. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - Dazzle Ships [1983] (80 points, 9 votes)
91. Run-D.M.C. - Raising Hell [1986] (80 points, 10 votes)
90. Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II [1984] (81 points, 9 votes)
89. Prince and the Revolution - Parade [1986] (83 points, 10 votes)
88. Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love [1987] (86 points, 7 votes)
87. Pet Shop Boys - Actually [1987] (86 points, 8 votes)
86. Pet Shop Boys - Please [1986] (87 points, 8 votes)
84. (tie) Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine [1989] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
84. (tie) Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues [1983] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
83. David Bowie - Scary Monsters [1980] (89 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
82. Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Nail [1985] (91 points, 5 votes, 1 first place vote)
81. The Beat (aka The English Beat) - I Just Can't Stop It [1980] (91 points, 13 votes)
80. Various - The Indestructible Beat of Soweto [1985] (93 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
79. The The - Soul Mining [1983] (93 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
78. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash [1985] (93 points, 16 votes)
77. Meat Puppets - Up on the Sun [1985] (94 points, 8 votes)
76. U2 - The Joshua Tree [1987] (95 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
75. Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual [1983] (95 points, 9 votes)
74. Galaxie 500 - On Fire [1989] (96 points, 10 votes)
73. X - Wild Gift [1981] (97 points, 9 votes)
72. The Chills - Kaleidoscope World [1986] (98 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
71. Roxy Music - Avalon [1982] (99 points, 10 votes)
70. Laurie Anderson - Big Science [1982] (99 points, 11 votes)
69. Scritti Politti - Cupid & Psyche 85 [1985] (100 points, 7 votes)
68. New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies [1983] (100 points, 16 votes)
67. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes [1983] (101 points, 12 votes)
66. Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen [1985] (104 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)
65. Donald Fagen - The Nightfly [1982] (105 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
63. (tie) Tom Waits - Rain Dogs [1985] (106 points, 12 votes)
63. (tie) Cocteau Twins - Treasure [1984] (106 points, 12 votes)
62. Grace Jones - Nightclubbing [1981] (106 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
61. Arthur Russell - World of Echo [1986] (108 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
60. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full [1987] (111 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
59. Mekons - Fear and Whiskey [1985] (111 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
58. The Cure - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me [1987] (112 points, 7 votes, 2 first place votes)
57. Arvo Pärt - Tabula Rasa [1984] (112 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)
56. R.E.M. - Lifes Rich Pageant [1986] (112 points, 12 votes)
55. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me [1987] (115 points, 13 votes)
54. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. [1984] (118 points, 14 votes)
53. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska [1982] (120 points, 14 votes)
52. Brian Eno / David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts [1981] (120 points, 17 votes)
51. Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man [1988] (121 points, 11 votes)
50. The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms [1980] (123 points, 13 votes)
49. The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane [1988] (125 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)
48. XTC - Skylarking [1986] (127 points, 16 votes)
47. Steely Dan - Gaucho [1980] (128 points, 9 votes)
46. R.E.M. - Reckoning [1984] (131 points, 14 votes)
45. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station [1980] (133 points, 11 votes)
44. The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace [1985] (136 points, 13 votes)
43. Sonic Youth - EVOL [1986] (143 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
42. Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising [1985] (146 points, 14 votes)
41. The Cure - Pornography [1982] (148 points, 9 votes)
40. Dexy’s Midnight Runners - Searching for the Young Soul Rebels [1980] (148 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
39. Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4 [1984] (154 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes)
38. New Order - Substance [1987] (156 points, 16 votes)
37. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising [1989] (164 points, 23 votes)
36. The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour [1982] (166 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
35. ABC - The Lexicon of Love [1982] (173 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
34. The Smiths - Hatful of Hollow [1984] (173 points, 16 votes)
33. The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs [1987] (174 points, 20 votes)
32. Prince - 1999 [1982] (191 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
31. Sonic Youth - Sister [1987] (199 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)
30. Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade [1984] (200 points, 13 votes)
29. Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth [1980] (200 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
28. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses [1989] (201 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
27. Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction [1987] (201 points, 18 votes)
26. Prince - Dirty Mind [1980] (210 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
25. The Clash - Sandinista! [1980] (211 points, 11 votes, 3 first place votes)
24. The Cure - Disintegration [1989] (218 points, 19 votes, 1 first place vote)
23. The Human League - Dare [1981] (219 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)
22. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything [1988] (229 points, 19 votes, 2 first place votes)
21. Paul Simon - Graceland [1986] (237 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
20. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy [1985] (243 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote)
19. The Replacements - Let It Be [1984] (252 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)
18. Joy Division - Closer [1980] (255 points, 24 votes)
17. Kate Bush - The Dreaming [1982] (269 points, 13 votes, 3 first place votes)
16. New Order - Technique [1989] (273 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
15. Pixies - Surfer Rosa [1988] (273 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)
14. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden [1988] (274 points, 18 votes, 2 first place votes)
13. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique [1989] (291 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote)
12. Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime [1984] (300 points, 15 votes, 3 first place votes)
11. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead [1986] (307 points, 26 votes, 1 first place vote)
10. Pixies – Doolittle [1989] (323 points, 31 votes)
9. Michael Jackson - Thriller [1982] (331 points, 35 votes)
8. Kraftwerk - Computer World [1981] (338 points, 29 votes)
7. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation [1988] (356 points, 28 votes, 3 first place votes)
6. R.E.M. - Murmur [1983] (359 points, 30 votes, 2 first place votes)
5. Prince - Sign “O” the Times [1987] (381 points, 28 votes, 2 first place votes)
4. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love [1985] (422 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)
3. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain [1984] (423 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)
2. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back [1988] (478 points, 39 votes, 2 first place votes)
1. Talking Heads - Remain in Light [1980] (568 points, 37 votes, 4 first place votes)

Foetus with 2 albums in it!

3 Sonic Youth albums. 2 Husker Du and 2 Meat Puppets.

Steelpole Bathtub were robbed

80 Redd Kross - Neurotica 639 Points, 9 Votes
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pPd4TtUMp1A/SPJApNJ2DhI/AAAAAAAAAjE/mP1c_wr-qnk/s400/CCI00000.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1zbM3BBYb26BnLV2VG4HJB

‏Funny, Rolling Stone contributor just tweeted this: @tannenbaumr Whatever you're listening to right now is not as good as the second Psychedelic Furs album.

I responded with a link to our poll!

79 Boredoms - Soul Discharge 650 Points, 14 Votes
http://souldischarge.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/boredoms_front.jpg

xp
I dont think he will like the title

Soul Discharge!

I guess that's going to be the only Shimmy Disc title in this thing unless Bongwater somehow miraculously appear

78 Rapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack Mule 656 Points, 10 Votes
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_reHvq-XmOtM/TQYihM7jBpI/AAAAAAAAAgs/p4tCl-g8TFE/s1600/rapeman.jpg

Bet that would never get in rolling stone

I think his mission was to convert all of Morrissey's vegetarians back onto steak. It was a very controversial name at the time, a lot of protesters at his gigs in England. Great album. Would the name be a problem now ?

I would bet it would.

77 Coil - Horse Rotorvator 656 Points, 12 Votes, One #1
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_N3HIxE531v4/TLuP4FaIw5I/AAAAAAAAADE/25TPlI1jHHg/s1600/horse+rotorvator-cover.jpeg

Been away for a few days and the first thing I see scrolling down is the recap of the OTHER 80s poll, nearly shit a Rubik's Cube.

horse rotorvator = my no. 1.

No doubt most of ilx would prefer the other poll but I thought it was worth reminding those in this thread of it, see how much contrast there is.
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76 AC/DC - Back in Black 662 Points, 12 Votes
http://991.com/newGallery/ACDC-Back-In-Black-444421.jpg

I was one of the number ones, a++++ to whoever the other one was.

― Therion - Beyond Santorum (jjjusten), Tuesday

hell.o !

- not a real surprise surely ?

I wouldn't have thought so.