Only Girl In The POLL: Female singers of the 21st century (so far)

showing her vagina to some guy, right?

her first album's singles were all more successful on Pop Songs than Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, aesthetics notwithstanding (xpost)

Gaga, Katy, and Kelly have all had #1 singles on the club/dance charts. Pure pop = disco-pop?

Madonna has had a bazillion club/dance #1s, that chart's makeup is more artists considered 'pop' than any particular strain of dance music

More clubs mostly play top 40 (or dance remixes of top 40) than you'd think.

yeah unless someone actually wants to make the argument that there's anywhere near the crossover between the r&b and pop chart as there was eight to ten years ago then anyone agog at this is showing a bizarre unfamiliarity w/ the concepts of 'radio', 'charts', 'billboard', 'r&b', and 'pop'.

sorry I'm not going to buy into this "pure pop" thing

ok joe morgan

who's joe morgan

unskewed billboard charts show jazmine sullivan has actually had several top ten pop hits, not peaked at #31 on hot 100.

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kinda surprised by the showing for Rihanna. so few of all those top 10 hits are actually memorable or good at all.

she's the pop equivalent of that overplayed Kael meme: I know nobody, including non-critics, who likes her. And there she is.

Surprised by the lone vote for Britney. Glad Ke$ha beat K. Perry.

Rihanna has always been inconsistent but I unabashedly love about a dozen or so of her hits.

i liked not loved rihanna when she was starting out - ok pop dancehall (which i'm pretty much always in favor of, though 'pon de replay' fell far far short of lumidee or nina sky), and she managed to inadvertantly smuggle schaffel onto the radio. 'umbrella' was the first thing she did that i loved, the first thing she did that sounded better in reality than on paper. it was also the last thing she did that i loved. enjoyed her ti guest spot and 'rude boy' enough and 's&m' was fun enough (though tbh she's so fucking hot that i can't accurately gauge how good a song where she's basically going 'spank me james' actually is) but the others, the foundation her superstardom is built on, haven't really made an impression favorable or otherwise on me. not that i would've voted for either but gwen's got two hits i like as much as almost anything by anyone up there and nelly furtado's got one.

11 votes for rihanna is insane

i mean i like her as much as the next person but c'mon

Taylor swift

Poll is invalid

's&m' was fun enough (though tbh she's so fucking hot that i can't accurately gauge how good a song where she's basically going 'spank me james' actually is)

lmao

rihanna's likability really outweighs the importance of her % of great singles with many ppl. she's a great pop star

does Rihanna inspire next persons?

i remember us having a whole convo around the time of the chris brown thing about how she was finally starting to do more on-camera interviews and finally have a recognizable personality and be kind of likable, as opposed to just widely liked for her music or her beauty. but since then i feel like she's just become another celebrity who constantly says snide, obnoxious shit on twitter.

oh is that a problem, her twitter personality is basically the main thing i attribute to her likability

i liked not loved rihanna when she was starting out - ok pop dancehall (which i'm pretty much always in favor of, though 'pon de replay' fell far far short of lumidee or nina sky), and she managed to inadvertantly smuggle schaffel onto the radio. 'umbrella' was the first thing she did that i loved, the first thing she did that sounded better in reality than on paper. it was also the last thing she did that i loved.

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yeah same basically. i liked pon de replay & umbrella but i would never have guessed she'd have this kind of longevity

cant remember if i voted, seems hard to justify voting for anyone other than beyonce. would be tempted by ciara just for the first time i heard 'goodies' (have to hold the next 7000 times i heard it against her though) and for 'oh' being the most perfect musical evocation of what an atlanta summer night feels like. always dug 'like a boy' too

am i nuts for getting twigged by this little factoid: rihanna's most un-carribbean sounding hit ("cheers" -- a nu-metal drinking ballad with avril lavigne yelping) is the one where her voice sounds most trinidad again? am i way off here

i liked the britney version of s&m way better

"S.O.S." came on the radio last night and i don't think i ever appreciated how much of a banger it is. absolutely bursting at all seams with energy. she's quieted down in her old age (24 ew) but imo we take for granted how effortlessly she defines her songs by her personality. if she didn't release a new album every month her singles batting average would probably be higher

Can't find the thread, but I remember a discussion on ILM not that long ago about how Rihanna was mostly a puppet or a robot and had no personnality for someone as big as she was. It seems that perception has changed.

well no, I think ppl totally accept and celebrate that she is a robot now

what is better about the britney version of "s&m"?? brit sounds so timid on it, practically

it works cuz she sounds like she'd rather be getting tortured than be doing a remix for rihanna

entirely prejudice on my part, i just like that kind of palpable bridesmaid-party desperation less on rihanna

tbh I can't deal with "S&M" since it came out after Rihanna had the shit beaten out of her by Chris Brown

consent vs non-consent, what

that is exactly the point; releasing a song about how getting whipped sexually excites the narrator of the song after publicly getting her ass beat fuels the "she probably asked for it/did something to deserve it" narrative floating around Team Breezy

Rihanna obv can do and say whatever she wants, but other people do actually get to have opinions on whether those decisions are stupid.

ok my opinion is more power to her for not giving a shit about people who hate her for being an abuse victim

i don't think that's exaaaactly what DJP is saying there

yeah. fuck off with this "people who hate her for being an abuse victim" shit.

I think he's talking about Team Breezy, not me

had to double-check that zachylon was also the "imo this is about people shaming a woman for making choices" guy

uh yeah i'm talking about team breezy here

yes i am that guy