Sorry if this was discussed hotheads but what the he'll happened to gravity?
― Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
Hotheads = up thread. You all seem very chill
― Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
lol great typo
what happened like why isn't it on the album? i mean only 3 of the EP songs are on the album, 2 of which were radically changed, and "Gravity" was never a huge favorite.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
i'm glad the album is mostly different?
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
Just seemed like it would do well as a single imo.
― Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
i've listened to it about 5 times and my favorites aren't really changing from listen to listen like with the first, and i'm not really discovering new things buried in the songs to love,
totally opposite experience of this record
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
it looks like the Target deluxe edition contains "...All," "Gravity" and
and
::shudder::
http://www.youtube.com/v/pdiL01PRtWI&fs=1&hl=en
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
wow that hat is fucking terrible
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah my copy has those two songs.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
hat is hilarious
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
the combination of that outfit and i guess wiz's height makes miguel look like a midget in that photo
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
ok he can't be gay because only Elton John would dress so terribly
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
miguel's a good dresser but that outfit is horrifying
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
wiz makes miguel look short like miguel makes wiz look dignified
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
Gravity is a huge favorite of mine; I was gonna post that that & ...All got hosed, so this Target Deluxe Edition is welcome news.
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
miguel is tiny tho, he's maybe 5' 7"
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not saying he's not usually short, i'm saying wiz is not usually dignified
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
"do you?" is the best song to sing along to
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
also, has anyone talked about the censored 'fuck's on "how many drinks?"? is this artistic decision, because the album has a parental advisory diclaimer, so why censor it still?
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
I like the little laser noises at those moments, it's probably an artistic decision.
Either that or my leaked version is ripped off from a censored stream.
― Matt DC, Monday, 1 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean i'm cool with it being artistic, cause those laser noises are dope, and it's a more effective by omission kinda thing then.
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
i think my least favorite song on this is "where's the fun in forever" although it's still a good song
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
haha so far there's no consensus
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
freelancer Sarah G*dfrey's interview with Miguel for the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/miguel-creates-his-own-randb-path-on-kaleidoscope-dream/2012/10/01/36b1b4d4-09ba-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_story.html
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
DO YOU LIKE HUGS?
― Roland Pemberton, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVn8kQQhDo4
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
Has had a girlfriend for 7 years, supposedly.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
i couldn't get through much of that asinine 'interview'
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
i couldn't even start it
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
fuck those guys
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah it was horrible.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
Those guys are the scum of the earth.
― longneck, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
Couldn't watch it either, but "Are you gay?" should be an off-limits question in all interviews
― Evan R, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
(Even in the case of artists like Frank Ocean and—to a much, much lesser extent—Miguel, whose songwriting gives some reason to suspect they might be)
"Are you gay?" asked by two choads who make gross Rihanna jokes is off limits
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
i think a writer could ask this question because you can go off record or if the artist doesn't want to talk about it you can just pretend like you didn't ask it, but in a live setting like that it's pretty shitty
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
in a weird way i think it's kind of better for someone to be able to face down that question live on the air, compared to how gossip blogs constantly insinuate that kind of thing without asking the person directly, or even in print where they can massage the context of their answer with a bunch of "he said, as he shifted uncomfortably in his chair and quickly changed the subject" type stuff.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
imo there's just a lot of sweet-voiced men singing love songs throughout the music industry, and they ain't all gay, but in R&B there's been such a strong undercurrent of hip hop bravado the last decade or two that anyone who doesn't carry themselves that way is under suspicion and it's kinda dumb.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
That's true to a point. I can think of few situations in which "Are you gay?" asked live isn't designed to (a) elicit a squirm from the subject (b) be sensationalist at the expense of the subject.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
like, I guess Tavis Smiley can ask and be cool.
"true to a point" = ship's penultimate post
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm not saying the on-air gotcha is better as a rule, just saying in some ways being that bald-faced about it is preferable to the alternative
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
Not to defend these guys, but "Didn't people arbitrarily make up a gay rumor about you recently?" is a lot less direct than "Are you gay?"
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
performing on 106 & Park for 30 minutes this evening?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
"use me" totally hit me on the train back to london this evening
i love the natural way he flips between nervous submission and aggression in the chorus, over and over
the album is really wonderfully sequenced in its final form - almost perfect even if the nature of its release means you can't help but want to make a couple of tweaks
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
all 3 new songs are completely crucial to it imo - love "where's the fun..." - it's one of those albums where every song seems to balance the final work out just that little bit better
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
it even makes me happier about my whatever-ness towards "adorn" because it's just a trifle of an intro, it doesn't ask me to be all starry-eyed about it
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
one day, lex, you too will love 'adorn'
― barthes simpson, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
this album is fantastic. listening to it at home--as opposed to streaming it at work--the whole thing sounded great. lex otm about how well it's laid out. album version of "candles" is hugely superior, not even sure how that was an issue upthread. have to say, I don't see anything else on this being a hit like "Adorn" but maybe that's just a testament to how strong it is as a collection
― rob, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
i do have mild anxiety that he'll end up w/ The-Dream's career arc (three big singles off the first album, even bigger single off the lead single and then radio turns its back) but i have a feeling this'll do well with follow-up singles.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link