Frank Ocean - Channel Orange (2012)

lol, I said they were antitheses of each other

he means "why was that song brought up itt at all"

yeah well my response works that way too

it's a stupid diversion of a conversation but that never stopped anyone on ilx before, so continue on

tbh I kind of feel like Pyramids is the best song of the year so far. I probably should get around to checking the whole album out sooner or later
Big co-sign on this. Will get on it at some point today.

Feel like spending some time on ILX has reawakened my more 'generalist' impulses, which is great but the only drawback is that it can be quite a slog to keep up with everything.

There's all these little parts of this album that just bury themselves in my brain. Right now it's the "sky up above" part with the birds in pilot jones (kills me) and the bridge btwn andre's to parts in pink matter.

Sweet Life is the one that keeps me coming back.

listened to this last night and i'm still pretty indifferent to it but "pink matter" sounded really nice, pretty cool groove on that one, it really suits lying down, being on the verge of sleep

definitely feel everyone who champions this record based on its albumness, its groove, its stream-of-conscious feel, but i just kind of think that the songs aren't there. maybe it's tone-deaf to bring up voodoo again but that's a record that's not even about its songcraft—it can be, but it's totally oriented toward groove. whereas with channel orange, as much as i know it's equally about feel and atmosphere, i feel like my attention is oriented wholly toward the quality of the songs. maybe it's the way it's produced, or maybe it's just in how i approach it

think i said upthread that the record lives or dies on its hooks and i stand by that.

I'm gonna give CO a few more spins before I try to give it any kind of qualitative judgement

I think the album is pretty catchy melodically though and I keep being surprised to see so many people think otherwise!

is it a love crime?

agreed, this is an incredibly hooky album for me.

So Frank is retiring now? I'll believe it when I see it.
http://frankocean.tumblr.com/

did he really mean he was quitting music? seems just like an offhanded thing to say

text edit screen cap a few posts down is a bit more like what's going on IMO

He is an impulsive and sensible young man with a tumblr. He might have meant it while he typed it.

Lol, sensitive not sensible. Die, phone.

I am home taking a muscle relaxer (tizanidine) pills for a relatively minor (but bad enough) issue with my calf muscle, and I somehow thought this might be the time to finally listen to this whole thing. I think I need to go put my leg up though. Feeling a little buzzed but maybe it's just my imagination.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbfw1aERpz1qmrbzio1_1280.jpg

there is a lot of thing you can quit.

Sweet Life is the one that keeps me coming back.

yes

I think the album is pretty catchy melodically though and I keep being surprised to see so many people think otherwise!

yes

is it a love crime?

noooooo

argh why won't this album come out on vinyl already COME ON

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/music/201212/frank-ocean-interview-gq-december-2012

Jon Caramanica @joncaramanica 7s
Worth mentioning that Bieber sang about 12 bars of Frank Ocean "Thinkin Bout You" during the show tonight

Terrific interview.

listened to this again today & it just floored me, songs that previously hadn't really struck me just sounded incredible (pilot jones, sierra leone) really, really wonderful album

the final :30 or so of "sierra lone" is my favorite part of the album i think

would love to see a glenn mcdonald-type spreadsheet in which ILM's grades for this album get posted.

I've finally fallen for "Pilot Jones"

I keep thinking of "Pilot Jones" as being a love song for mentally challenged military personnel because of "Forrest Gump"

hahaha

I wondered why Ocean didn't lead "Pilot Jones" with a Short Round sample from Temple of Doom, specifically, "Dr. Jones! No time for love!"

love "pilot jones" so much. was my favorite the first time through, and i still love it dearly. so sadd. played it for a friend the other day and he would not feel. then he wanted to play me the afghan whigs doing "love crimes. friends...

I like the Afghan Whigs cover, but if that's the only thing you're taking away from Frank Ocean....

it was live and sounded like a carton of bees

Love how this album is structured. It opens with him telling lies, moves on to him telling stories, then closes with candid autobiography

Ha, not quite, but good point. I don't think "Pink Matter" or fucking "Forrest Gump" really jibe with that. It's telling in a way that he follows the emotionally nakedness of "Bad Religion" (and, in a different way, "Pink Matter", which has no real reason to connect the way it does, but damn does he make you feel his cosmic mumbo-jumbo) with a somewhat detached telling of his cheesiest tale yet, but one that only really makes sense in the context given by "Bad Religion". There really isn't any other point in the record he could have slipped "Forrest" without it being completely intrusive. He goes for the "Florida University" gambit by ending the album on a more upbeat but also very wistful moment (but without Terius' spite), which probably sums his current feelings of the relationship he described more directly in "Thinkin' Bout You" and "Bad Religion" than their in-the-moment anguish. Cause really all his stories are about himself anyway, even when goes out of his way to signpost that they're not. So for all practical intents he's back to lying again.

Oh, and "Fertilizer" is him calling himself out!

"fertilizer" in its 45 or whatever seconds is better than 95% of music this year

it was live and sounded like a carton of bees

the studio version is free d00d

does frank sing on "fertilizer" at all or is it totally james fauntleroy

i thought it's frank singing to fauntleroy, who you can faintly hear in the background

or like a short cover

The vocals sound deeper than Fauntleroy's on the original, so I'm assuming it's Ocean. It had never occurred to me that it wouldn't be, even though I knew Fauntleroy wrote the song.

the instruments are different too, no?

I don't think so.

A friend's FB update, which makes perfect sense:

Who knew Frank Ocean was so good to do yoga to?