love both of em to death--and probably like sticky fingers more than any individual neil young album--but man neil in particular really appeals to me, maybe because i'm ultimately a headphones kinda dude
― fadanuf4erybody, Monday, 1 October 2012 01:26 (thirteen years ago)
Like honestly using the terms like "misogynist" without giving examples is self-righteous and pointless. I get it already some people on the internet are just way better human beings than most...
― nicky lo-fi, Monday, 1 October 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)
Neil Young of course, who d'ya think I am? Stoopid?
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Monday, 1 October 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)
― nicky lo-fi, Monday, October 1, 2012 6:20 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the stones are assholes and treated women like shit, i think they are great but denying that seems stupid. brian was such an asshole! read about him! he was mean to women and treated them like shit!
s. I get it already some people on the internet are just way better human beings than most...
where did i say i was better than anyone?
i'm not better than anyone
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)
the stones are a great band but they weren't good ppl
i hope that isnt an elliptical confession that you treat women like shit m@tt! xp
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)
I just thought it was interesting question--is Under My Thumb more or less sexist/misogynistic than the more sugary ballads of the era that constantly make no bones about infantilizing the desired female Other or making bald assertion of desire to ownership--but it sounds like Ellen Willis already posed and answered that question...
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, October 1, 2012 11:12 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha oops i would hope not!
if i'm not a more chill bro & gentlemen then brian jones i'm in real trouble.
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)
lol i was just kidding around anyways
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)
no i knew
i mean i *get* what you're saying but it's hard to separate some of the stones songs from everything i've ever read about them as ppl
that said..."under my thumb" is just a stunning song, reprehensible sentiment or not...the marimba line....i've kinda come around on brian in a big way as a musician and his era of the band, i don't necessarily think they are hands-down "better" after him like i used to think
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)
We should do Young vs Dylan after this so I can make it up to Neil for voting for Mick'n'Keith
― da croupier, Monday, 1 October 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)
it's hard to separate some of the stones songs from everything i've ever read about them as ppl
^watts always seemed like a decent guy.lost some respect for richards after the anecdote in his book where he went after a guy with a knife for stealing his chili recipe or something like that.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 1 October 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)
Wyman's philandering is the stuff of legend.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 1 October 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)
lol at watts' chili recipe. the end of richards' bio where he starts rattling off his recipes is kind of an amazing surreal thing.
― tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, October 1, 2012 4:06 PM
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, October 1, 2012 4:18 PM
lol. I didn't mean to direct my previous comment about being self-righteous at you, but I do think those two quotes (6 minutes apart) are funny in some way.
I'm just saying I would like to see examples or more of an explanation when people call stuff misogynist, or call people "bad" or "assholes."
To me "under my thumb" is about the changing dynamics of a relationship. It could just as well be sung by a lesbian, singing about her lover.I don't see the hated of women in the song.
― nicky lo-fi, Monday, 1 October 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
i can't believe people are still talking about this when there are so many other things to talk aboutneil young's breakfast is more interesting/innaresting than having the same conversation about under my thumb for the 400th time
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 1 October 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)
is there a place you can go where you order "Neil Young Special" and they give you some fried eggs and country ham? there should be.
― tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)
neil young's breakfast is more interesting/innaresting than having the same conversation about under my thumb for the 400th time
too bad the same can't be said for his music.
― wk, Monday, 1 October 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)
damnnnnn
― tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)
Shit sandwich
― omar little, Monday, 1 October 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)
"nice zing"
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 October 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)
"too bad the same can't be said for stale punchlines"
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 October 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)
eh, I thought I put at least a neil young level effort into that
― wk, Monday, 1 October 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)
hey at least everyone has stopped opining about misogyny. bring on the bad jokes.
neil young was on fresh air (again) today talking about his new book/record and of course terry gross asked him some stupid questionsmy favorite was about how he was advised not to drop acid by his doctor, and she asked him if he followed his doctor's ordershe was like, "uh yeah, i did. i don't need to hallucinate any more than i already do" (i'm paraphrasing here) then she asked him what he hallucinated about and he said that he freaks out in the grocery store from the overwhelming abundance of things and colorsagain, a paraphrase, but he has this really amazing way in interviews of being totally frank and totally oblique at the same time that i think is really amusing when the questions are that dumb
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 1 October 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)
I bet he would have taken the interview more seriously if the interviewer were a man. Pig.
― wk, Monday, 1 October 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah I guess so. I'd feel differently about this topic if I were a woman.
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 1 October 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)
man they need to get someone other than terry gross to interview him. the last one was kind of terrible too!
― tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)
terry gross is always terrible
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)
I haven't listened to Terry Gross in a while, but the last interview I heard was with Smokey Robinson. She was dropping her g's in a really annoying way, and Smokey sounded like he was getting a little annoyed with it towards the end (a rare feat; dude is notoriously easygoing).
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)
smokey robinson might be in a bad mood because he frightens children these days, though
http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/smokey-robinson.jpg
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)
http://s1.evcdn.com/images/block250/I0-001/004/305/148-0.jpeg_/smokey-robinson-48.jpeg
why is everyone running away
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)
he was dropping her g's in a really annoying way, and Smokey sounded like he was getting a little annoyed with it towards the end
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=157769&stc=1&d=1282702907
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)
didn't Neil deny knowing who the Sex Pistols were in his last interview with TG? she is so bad.
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BSXymvGAYM
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAUcyfKESts
0:30-0:40
neil young - george bushrolling stones - al gore
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:11 (thirteen years ago)
Love Neil, one of my all-time faves, but voted Stones because Charlie Watts.
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:15 (thirteen years ago)
thanks for reminding me how awful Al Gore was.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)
yeah wow that clip is unreal, forgot about that....GWB actually has a pretty awesome moment there when gore steps up beside him and he's like "uh...hey"
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)
just like that moment in this poll when the rolling stones were all up in neil young's face, but neil was like "hey, look out"
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)
Look at that...I called 74-57 for the Rolling Stones, figuring they'd get most of the silent vote. So who would Neil lose to? Beatles and/or Dylan? (This is not meant as a poll suggestion.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)
beatles would beat neil
he might beat dylan on ilm
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:35 (thirteen years ago)
yeah probably would. which is why i'm hoping we don't get that poll.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:42 (thirteen years ago)
Neil would not lose to whoever on ilm imo, esp not The Beatles
― nostormo, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:15 (thirteen years ago)
nah the beatles would bring out the lurkers like a mofo and british ppl
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)
lurkers - maybe. british ppl - they should have been here already with the Stones, so..
― nostormo, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:26 (thirteen years ago)
neil vs. radiohead amirite
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:27 (thirteen years ago)
and people who think The Beatles made better music than Neil Young (aka sane people) xpost
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:27 (thirteen years ago)
did we ever do steely dan vs neil young?
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:28 (thirteen years ago)