also "**** (Jungle Law)" which is secretly one of the best Love and Rockets songs ever, and actually led to their most popular album being a big disappointment to me because I felt like it didn't live up to the amazing opener
― cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)
Express is prob my fave L&R album. I love how Vamos by Pixies is basically a shameless ripoff of Yin and Yang and the Flowerpot Man.
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)
i want to see photos of 80s goth dan
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)
there aren't any really, I didn't look like a goth
― cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)
rivethead dan then
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)
VegGrrl, do you know "Innocence" by Harlequin? You might like it.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)
Had to step out so missed the finale but WOW awesome results! You guys really honored the fire.
Great work AG and Seandalai, absolutely killer rollout.
Ranked ballot:Sonic Youth – InhumanMisfits - Astro ZombiesBad Brains - Pay To CumSpacemen 3 - Losing Touch with My MindSlayer - Angel of DeathMinutemen - Little Man With a Gun In His HandFlipper - Sex BombButthole Surfers - Human CannonballIron Maiden - The Number of the BeastDramarama - Anything, AnythingMinistry – ThievesThe Vandals - Urban StruggleSlade - Run Run AwayOzzy Osbourne - Crazy TrainMission of Burma - Academy Fight SongMinor Threat - I Don’t Want to Hear ItBlack Flag - DepressionDinosaur Jr – SludgefeastCrash Course in Science - Cardboard LambNomeansno - It's Catching UpMisfits - Where Eagles DareMinistry - StigmataSonic Youth - Eliminator Jr.Metallica - BatteryX - The Hungry WolfDead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck OffPussy Galore - Sweet Little HiFiAgent Orange – BloodstainsNirvana - Negative CreepBig Black – KeroseneDef Leppard - Foolin'Metallica - Damage Inc.Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' for YouRapeman - Trouser MinnowGuns N' Roses - Paradise CitySocial Distortion - 1945Joan Jett & the Blackhearts - I Love Rock 'n RollRed Cross - Annette's Got the HitsFugazi - Waiting RoomDescendents - Suburban HomeMetallica - Disposable HeroesAdolescents – AmoebaThe Jesus and Mary Chain - Never Understand8-Eyed Spy - Lazy in LoveDead Kennedys - Holiday in CambodiaCircle Jerks - Deny EverythingHusker Du - Beyond the ThresholdFishbone - Party At Ground ZeroD.I. - Pervert NurseSuicidal Tendencies - Institutionalized
― Oneohchex Point Charlie (Spectrist), Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)
yeah big props to AG and seandalai for running this circus, the 250 countdown was of course opposed, decried as idiocy, and then embraced as a stroke of genius
I wish I could say the poll turned me on to some stuff but I think this decade is too tapped out for me
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks AG and seandalai, and I'm sorry I'm already complaining about the 400 album rollout. This was fun. I'd still rather listen to Grupo Niche than most of these songs though, most of the time.
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:02 (thirteen years ago)
sonic youth update - since i am not driving out to get the cd tonight, i am making up for it by listening to stuff on spotify, and my memory was correct, death valley '69 is really really fucking awesome.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:04 (thirteen years ago)
decided which you will buy?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:04 (thirteen years ago)
he is buying confusion is sex, there is no other option
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:12 (thirteen years ago)
Wait if 3 of us voted for cardboard lamb how come it only has 2 votes in the results?
― Moka, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:33 (thirteen years ago)
hanging chad
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:37 (thirteen years ago)
I repeat: I demand a recount! Stirmonster, Spectrist and me voted for Cardboard Lamb and only 2 votes are registered on that list.
― Moka, Thursday, 27 September 2012 04:16 (thirteen years ago)
this poll is moot; lock thread
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 September 2012 04:17 (thirteen years ago)
One of my questions was whether the parameters of the poll were informed by sociological rather than musical factors, so you can see the relation to the rockism debate there.
I didn't understand where you were coming from when you asked about this on the nomination thread. Do you see a sociological factor that links Crass, Poison, the Birthday Party, Minor Threat, Fates Warning, Einsturzende Neubauten, and Neil Young but excludes REM, the Smiths, the Talking Heads, and Bruce Springsteen?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:11 (thirteen years ago)
throw bad brains in there for fun
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:19 (thirteen years ago)
All I really 'regret'/would do differently is over-representing some bands. I would drop one or two Rush and Husker Du songs and make room for Bad Brains and stuff.
xpost!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:36 (thirteen years ago)
Well, I brought up a few topics about particular artists that I still wonder about. Like I suggested that the Feelies had just worn the wrong clothes. I think there are also questions about artists who are not particularly rock-oriented but may have been included because their aesthetic was countercultural in certain prescribed ways.
The Rickenbacker question was more of a musical one.
― timellison, Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:41 (thirteen years ago)
not starting a fight here, and i missed the feelies discussion, but my gut feeling is that the feelies wouldn't fit here, and idk what they look like.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:46 (thirteen years ago)
(Right after I typed that, I clicked on the album results thread and saw someone talking about a Caroliner Rainbow record.)
― timellison, Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:47 (thirteen years ago)
xp - There was a fairly extensive conversation about why Dream Syndicate and Thin White Rope were included but R.E.M. or the Three O'Clock were not, why a group like Slovenly would be included and the Feelies would not, etc.
― timellison, Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:50 (thirteen years ago)
actually just listened to boy with the perpetual nervousness, and its like one distorted guitar away from misson of burma so i take that back. altho theres a lot of talking heads here, so if they were blocked maybe i get it? were the feelies 86ed?
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:50 (thirteen years ago)
that being said, as i have listened through the tracks on spotify tonight, theres something there (mostly) that is different from the feelies/rem/etc, but i cant put my finger on it quite.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:52 (thirteen years ago)
yah, not to put words in any mouths but I believe that might have been the sticking point for EZSnappin
seem like a real thin line between Dream Syndicate/Soft Boys and Feelies tbh. Fa Ce La seems v Dionysian to these ears
― did drake invent yolo (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:54 (thirteen years ago)
xp
You want distortion, listen to the double-tracked solo on "Loveless Love."
― timellison, Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:54 (thirteen years ago)
holy crap man, human cannonball is so obv the gateway drug for the butthole surfers, this is fucking fantastic
somebody wake djp up and make him listen to this
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:58 (thirteen years ago)
im a casual butthole surfers listener at best but this makes me want to look deeper
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 05:59 (thirteen years ago)
apologies in advance, prob going to be livebloggin here for a while while i roll through the last results because i dont have anything better to do
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 06:00 (thirteen years ago)
actually moving backwards because i missed some stuff last night. little fury things makes me think abt why i dont pay more attention to dinosaur jr, this is pretty good, might be the only slackervibe stuff i actually like
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 06:03 (thirteen years ago)
I totes think Fa Ce La was worth inclusion
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 September 2012 06:07 (thirteen years ago)
(I mean I just relistened to it just now)
skipping stuff i know
people who died - i hated this for years but it is starting to click with me, despite seeing him junkie destroy it years ago after a spoken word deal that was shockingly good.ha ha ha - forever and always the shit. fuck me for not voting for this
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 06:12 (thirteen years ago)
thieves - the other best use of drill sample if it weren't for slapshot - blast furnace. not saying this song isnt huge for me, just saying that hearing it reminded me how fucking badass that super unpopular slapshot album is. http://open.spotify.com/track/5sGZAcFI70fgKILFuxRA4S
let me be clear thats a super odd reaction.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 06:25 (thirteen years ago)
margin walker is sort of my eh song on 13 songs, the first indication of what was going to happen with later fugazi albums, which to me is navel gazing self love.
wardance is a+++ and i am a dick for not voting for it
paradise city is my least favorite track on appetite
sludgefeast - huh this is maybe great? slacker solos are so weird to me, so the end both makes the song and ruins it. maybe. idk i have to think abt this some more. would rather be listening to built to spill.
sueisfine - why the fuck doesnt my bloody valentine always sound like this? fuck loveless, this is awesome.
crazy train - mr. crowley deserved this spot, but fuck it, this song is all time badass
solitude - never heard this until now, holy fucking shit. need now.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 06:46 (thirteen years ago)
in 'n' out of grace - listen to the album version, not the spotify live thing. super powerhouse srs freakout shit, makes soundgarden look like half-assed hair metal pretenders. oh wait.
chartered trips - i want to hold up the mpls flag, but this song is a slab of mush and also boring as hell.
we care a lot - best seems dumb but is actually smart as shit song ever. seriously. chuck mosely ending up as a crazed out music footnote is one of the saddest things ever to me.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 07:01 (thirteen years ago)
ocean size - i dont give this song enough credit, forgot how it hammers down in the first 15 seconds. should have given this some points prob.
had a dad - i love the shit out of this song, always have, voted for it. the "if you see my dad..." moment still kills me. now i feel bad for dropping nothings shocking from my album votes.
flower - these might be the dumbest lyrics so far. srsly dudes i am doing what i can wrt sonic youth. this is awful
welcome to the jungle - fuck hip, this shit is great. that weirdo howl over the top of the intro would make this alone. also axl sounds sorta alice cooper. not on this album, but another band that was destroyed by the power ballad (FUCK U NOVEMBER RAINS).
angel witch - another spotify mistake, not that the live shredding w/e is bad per se, but the original is so tight and the harmonies sell it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXZc9-mtFDk
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 September 2012 07:19 (thirteen years ago)
that's the wrong version iirc, this is the classic mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpOJew3K79o
― Did communist FB take down the awesome bacon quran picture? (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 27 September 2012 07:33 (thirteen years ago)
didn't vote in this bcs I don't tend to involve myself in polls at the best of times and I didn't totally understand the parameters of this one BUT it has a lot of my favourite music ever in it and 19-year-old me is really siked that a bunch of people from the internet have justified his Big Black fandom
― Did communist FB take down the awesome bacon quran picture? (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 27 September 2012 07:36 (thirteen years ago)
Weighted ballot:
1. My Bloody Valentine – Thorn2. Mission of Burma - Academy Fight Song3. Van Halen – Panama4. Beastie Boys - Looking Down the Barrel of a Gun5. Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' for You6. Prince & the Revolution - Computer Blue7. My Bloody Valentine - You Made Me Realise8. AC/DC - For Those About to Rock9. Sonic Youth - Expressway to Yr Skull10. Public Enemy - She Watch Channel Zero11. Husker Du - Ice Cold Ice12. Dinosaur Jr – Kracked13. Metallica - For Whom The Bell Tolls14. Husker Du - Pink Turns To Blue15. ZZ Top - Cheap Sunglasses16. Neil Young - Rockin' in the Free World17. Pixies - Gouge Away18. Run-DMC - Rock Box19. Rush – Limelight20. The Young Gods – Envoyé21. Pixies - Bone Machine22. My Bloody Valentine – Sueisfine23. Faith No More - From Out of Nowhere24. Slayer - Raining Blood25. Replacements - Color Me Impressed26. Megadeth - Peace Sells27. Iron Maiden - The Trooper28. The Gun Club - Sex Beat29. Van Halen - Mean Streets30. Dag Nasty – Circles31. Motorhead - Iron Fist32. Metallica - Welcome Home (Sanitarium)33. Misfits - Where Eagles Dare34. Angel Witch - Angel Witch35. Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia36. Judas Priest – Breaking the Law37. Pop Will Eat Itself - Wise Up! Sucker38. Nirvana - Negative Creep39. Bad Brains - Banned In DC40. Run DMC - King of Rock41. Ministry – Thieves42. Slayer - Angel of Death43. Public Image Ltd. - Banging the Door44. Killing Joke – Eighties45. Descendents - Good Good Things46. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Never Understand47. Billy Squier - The Stroke48. Spacemen 3 – Revolution49. Nine Inch Nails - Head Like a Hole50. Gang Of Four - To Hell With Poverty!
'Kerosene' is a worthy winner even if I didn't vote for it, should really have given 'Ace of Spades' some points too. Cool results all in all!
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 27 September 2012 08:09 (thirteen years ago)
I can't remember exactly what I voted for since AG bugged me to do it at about 1am on Friday night. I was happy to see I wasn't the only one to vote for Fuck It by The Left though.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 27 September 2012 08:20 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks guys, awesome poll, and brilliant that Big Black won it! Here's my unranked ballot:
A Certain Ratio - Do the DuAC/DC - Back in BlackAC/DC - You Shook Me All Night LongBig Black - Bad PennyBig Black - KeroseneBlack Flag - Six PackDanzig – Twist of CainDead Kennedys - Holiday in CambodiaDead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck OffDinosaur Jr - Freak SceneDinosaur Jr - The LungDischarge - Hear Nothing See Nothing Say NothingFaith No More - EpicFaith No More - We Care a LotFlipper - Sex BombFugazi - Margin WalkerGang Of Four - To Hell With Poverty!Guns N' Roses - Paradise CityGuns N' Roses - Sweet Child o MineHusker Du - DianeHusker Du - Eight Miles HighIron Maiden - The Number of the BeastJudas Priest – Breaking the LawMeat Puppets - Lake of FireMegadeth - Peace SellsMelvins - It's ShovedMetallica - Fade To BlackMetallica - For Whom The Bell TollsMinor Threat - I Don’t Want to Hear ItMinutemen - This Ain't No PicnicMisfits - Last CaressMission of Burma - Academy Fight SongMotorhead - Ace of SpadesNapalm Death - You SufferNeil Young - Rockin' in the Free WorldNirvana - Negative CreepPixies - GiganticPrince and the Revolution - Let's Go CrazyPublic Enemy - She Watch Channel ZeroRapeman - Trouser MinnowRites of Spring - For Want ofSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSisters of Mercy - This CorrosionSlayer - Angel of DeathSonic Youth - Teenage RiotSpacemen 3 - RevolutionSuicidal Tendencies - InstitutionalizedThe Cult - She Sells SanctuaryThe Fall - Totally WiredThe Jesus and Mary Chain - Never Understand
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 27 September 2012 08:48 (thirteen years ago)
can't remember what I voted for exactly, but most of it's here. Great great winner. Going to spend an evening with the results playlist after work. free pussy riot.
― woof, Thursday, 27 September 2012 08:49 (thirteen years ago)
awesome results. beyond awesome top ten!
great job on the poll, and this thread was like a comet flashing across the sky!
― nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 27 September 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)
Glad you all enjoyed it.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)
What was I thinking not voting for "Where Eagles Dare"??
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 27 September 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)
I was thinking it was the wrong decade
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 27 September 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)
I repeat: I demand a recount! Stirmonster, Spectrist and me voted for Cardboard Lamb and only 2 votes are registered on that list.― Moka, Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:16 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Moka, Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:16 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Just double-checked: only two of these people actually voted for Cardboard Lamb.
― tish tosch (seandalai), Thursday, 27 September 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)