Neil Young Vs Rolling Stones

kinda shocked to hear steven tyler say he's more interested in songs that make him wanna cry than songs that make him wanna dance. 'i don't wanna miss a thing' making more sense now though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91KmtnsUtw8

^
Aero

...and "Cryin'"" xpost

no way Steven Tyler hasn't once given it up during "No Expectations"

remember when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMw2_niIUN4

"Moonlight Mile" might work too. "Memory Motel" breaks me up.

Hell, even Steel Wheels' "Almost Hear You Sigh" is pretty damn affecting.

argument could be made that this thread is really aerosmith vs pearl jam in disguise, or maybe new york dolls vs america

well, for one thing Neil's never resorted to race-baiting in his lyrics iirc

both have resorted to stupid girl baiting many times.

We should have called this poll "Stupid Girls"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-2MenrnR2U

Out of Tears does not make me cry! I checked this in my memory banks - I love the shit out of Beggars Banquet & Exile & Some Girls is just unbelievable but it's like sorrow & bitter regret is not part of their actual emotional playbook for me. I don't buy Jagger when he's in sadness mode - I don't really buy into him emotionally generally, he's a pretty heavy aesthete in my book. Which is fine, but..."Albuquerque"

xp OK actually I'll give you "No Expectations" maybe once in a blue moon. And probably if I listened to 'Fool to Cry' it would do it but let's be fair, literally anything I listen to right now is going to make me cry

Since I came to loving Roxy first, I gotta say that Bryan Ferry taught me to love what Jagger does as a vocalist.

nah the Brit-imitating-black-people dynamic doesn't come into play in any of those analogies, balls. and that's really the most irritating thing to me about the Stones, Jagger's "I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE" schtick - I know it comes from a legitimate love of black music but ye gods he really didn't know how to express it well sometimes (thinking of things like the line in Some Girls, or Al Jolson-ize Love in Vain, or the aforementioned James Brown parroting... it's like blackface sometimes, it's just so so wrong)

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both have resorted to stupid girl baiting many times.

Neil's never played the rapist/murderer angle. Stupid Girl is mean-spirited but it isn't anywhere close to the cruelty of Under My Thumb or Midnight Rambler.

this song ALWAYS makes me cry thinking of the LOST WEEKENDS that I dont remember.
1NewOrleansMan 1 week ago in playlist ROLLING STONES 3

btw I'm literally right at the foot of Laurel Canyon right now and the tagline from Revolution Blues just kicked in, fuck yes

I don't find "Under My Thumb" cruel at all.

I don't really buy into him emotionally generally, he's a pretty heavy aesthete in my book

^^^this

I can't say any RS song has ever really resonated with me emotionally. My favorite lyrical Stones bit is "Dead Flowers", which I like to think as young Mick addressing his older self - that my fave moment of theirs works best as a meta-in-joke is emblematic of this, I think.

Plenty of songs in the OTB/TFA period are as scary-apocalyptic as "Gimme Shelter," though -- and without Merry Clayton

Neil's never played the rapist/murderer angle
he did shoot his baby down by the river tho

see "Dead Flowers" is an excellent example of a song that starts as a joke and ends as something moving and sweet. Maybe it's Keith's cracked harmonies and Taylor's solo.

ah shit how could I forget that!!! okay I retract the murderer bit

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He killed a dog in "Revolution Blues" too.

eh who cares about dogs

claimed to be the ocean, which has drowned like millions of people

aero i did not mean to suggest "out of tears" made you cry i meant to suggest you were, as the song says, "out of tears"

mittens mo collier!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d4cDMiUarA

Cortez THE KILLER

"he" /= "I"

i'm pretty sure 'you got the silver' has made me cry at some point, probably wouldn't now though.

The more I think about it, I would take just the intros of the Stone's greatest songs on an endless loop over Neil Young's entire catalog.

young's voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me. i can sit through 'live rust' and enjoy most of it but that's about it.

refuse to vote

let's be fair, literally anything I listen to right now is going to make me cry

Thought about posting the youtube of "Please Don't Go Topless Mother" to test this out but I am a sober and respectful ilxor

voting Neil btw

I used to be a pretty big Neil Young hater but I was converted by Tonight's the Night

I was prominent in the Neil Young hater community

Steven Tyler was in the Manson family?!

Walk On This Way

surprised that anyone who loves Joni and guitar playing would hate on Neil

kinda shocked to hear steven tyler say he's more interested in songs that make him wanna cry than songs that make him wanna dance.

he's older now and he's a clever swine

Stupid Girl is mean-spirited but it isn't anywhere close to the cruelty of Under My Thumb or Midnight Rambler.

^all three are awesome songs, what's the bitching about

And what part of "Albuquerque" makes you sad? When our hero whips up some fried eggs and ham, or when he rents a car?

Neil's never played the rapist/murderer angle
he did shoot his baby down by the river tho

― tylerw, Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

zing

Welfare Mothers is a seriously gut-wrenching and emotional jam.

you've never made fried eggs and country ham in the middle of the night stoned out of our gourd on honey sliders?

White Castle Honey Sliders

would consume

Stupid Girl is mean-spirited but it isn't anywhere close to the cruelty of Under My Thumb or Midnight Rambler.

^all three are awesome songs, what's the bitching about

i know right, imagine anyone objecting to glamorizing rape or a guy boasting about how he's got his girlfriend cowed or...a song called 'stupid girl,' about how stupid some girl is.

sante fe is less than 90 miles away but it sounds like forever

^all three are awesome songs, what's the bitching about

nice word choice btw

surprised that anyone who loves Joni and guitar playing would hate on Neil

lol Neil's got some nice moves but as a guitarist he is not in Joni's class

And what part of "Albuquerque" makes you sad? When our hero whips up some fried eggs and ham, or when he rents a car?

think Albuquerque is about being completely alienated from p. much everything in your life and wishing you were someone else, which is pretty crushing. though when I saw NY & he sang the line about rolling a number a bunch of old hippies cheered and that was more depressing than the song because anybody who can't see that the narrator of "Albuquerque" is not rolling a number for the good times really doesn't belong at the show