Neil Young Vs Rolling Stones

"Burned" and "Out of My Mind" were not hit out of the park. I'm a big fan of "Clancy" and "Flying on the Ground Is Wrong," but they're more like doubles.

i don't find jagger's singing embarrassing at all

his singing is fine from the get-go, was referring more to the dance moves

"Burned" and "Out of My Mind" were not hit out of the park. I'm a big fan of "Clancy" and "Flying on the Ground Is Wrong," but they're more like doubles.

yeah, I don't think "Nowadays Clancy..." b/w "Burned" really measures up to say 8 Miles High/Why, or Little Red Book / A Message To Pretty, or Monday Monday/Got a Feeling, or I Saw Her Again / Even If I Could or Last Train To Clarksville, I'm a Believer, I'm Not Your Steppin Stone, etc etc

all of which were released in the same year by bands in the same town

think jagger better dancer than neil young tbh. wyman better dancer than neil young.

Road-eyes: better dancers than Neil Young

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XWHF27R0AA

Nils Lofgren interpretative dancing on the Trans tour >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every Mick Jagger dance move ever

What are the top 10 Neil Young songs?

what are the top 10 neil young songs to dance to?

1. Walk On

2. We Are in Control

boy if 'walk on' is number one say no more

those two songs are all I got. unless you want to count waltzes. neil has a lot of great waltzes.

when Shakey dances he can really love

Which of them wrote more great riffs?

riffs i give to stones, solos to neil

Neil writes better lyrics than Mick, that's for damn sure

Neil is also funnier

true on both counts

neil's rightwing turn in the 80s more defendable, less repugnant than mick's

mick was always kind of a right-winger, no?

Neil's rightwing turn not really very rightwing tbf

in practice yeah but lyrics don't go full fuck the poor until the 80s really

Jagger's an exemplary lyricist wtf

There are areas in which one or other is superior but as far as lyrics prime Neil and Jagger are equals.

well, for one thing Neil's never resorted to race-baiting in his lyrics iirc

the stones have meant more to me over a lifetime but they have literally no songs that make me cry. this is a huge mark against them in my book. (if "they have no songs that make steven tyler cry" is also a factor in your book then God bless you.) Neil Young has "Albuquerque" & several others on Tonight's the Night and is otherwise pretty cry-free for me so...can somebody add a Joni Mitchell option to this poll? thanks

what can I say the older I get the sillier and more irritating Jagger becomes

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kinda shocked to hear steven tyler say he's more interested in songs that make him wanna cry than songs that make him wanna dance. 'i don't wanna miss a thing' making more sense now though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91KmtnsUtw8

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...and "Cryin'"" xpost

no way Steven Tyler hasn't once given it up during "No Expectations"

remember when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMw2_niIUN4

"Moonlight Mile" might work too. "Memory Motel" breaks me up.

Hell, even Steel Wheels' "Almost Hear You Sigh" is pretty damn affecting.

argument could be made that this thread is really aerosmith vs pearl jam in disguise, or maybe new york dolls vs america

well, for one thing Neil's never resorted to race-baiting in his lyrics iirc

both have resorted to stupid girl baiting many times.

We should have called this poll "Stupid Girls"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-2MenrnR2U

Out of Tears does not make me cry! I checked this in my memory banks - I love the shit out of Beggars Banquet & Exile & Some Girls is just unbelievable but it's like sorrow & bitter regret is not part of their actual emotional playbook for me. I don't buy Jagger when he's in sadness mode - I don't really buy into him emotionally generally, he's a pretty heavy aesthete in my book. Which is fine, but..."Albuquerque"

xp OK actually I'll give you "No Expectations" maybe once in a blue moon. And probably if I listened to 'Fool to Cry' it would do it but let's be fair, literally anything I listen to right now is going to make me cry

Since I came to loving Roxy first, I gotta say that Bryan Ferry taught me to love what Jagger does as a vocalist.

nah the Brit-imitating-black-people dynamic doesn't come into play in any of those analogies, balls. and that's really the most irritating thing to me about the Stones, Jagger's "I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE" schtick - I know it comes from a legitimate love of black music but ye gods he really didn't know how to express it well sometimes (thinking of things like the line in Some Girls, or Al Jolson-ize Love in Vain, or the aforementioned James Brown parroting... it's like blackface sometimes, it's just so so wrong)

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both have resorted to stupid girl baiting many times.

Neil's never played the rapist/murderer angle. Stupid Girl is mean-spirited but it isn't anywhere close to the cruelty of Under My Thumb or Midnight Rambler.

this song ALWAYS makes me cry thinking of the LOST WEEKENDS that I dont remember.
1NewOrleansMan 1 week ago in playlist ROLLING STONES 3

btw I'm literally right at the foot of Laurel Canyon right now and the tagline from Revolution Blues just kicked in, fuck yes

I don't find "Under My Thumb" cruel at all.

I don't really buy into him emotionally generally, he's a pretty heavy aesthete in my book

^^^this

I can't say any RS song has ever really resonated with me emotionally. My favorite lyrical Stones bit is "Dead Flowers", which I like to think as young Mick addressing his older self - that my fave moment of theirs works best as a meta-in-joke is emblematic of this, I think.

Plenty of songs in the OTB/TFA period are as scary-apocalyptic as "Gimme Shelter," though -- and without Merry Clayton

Neil's never played the rapist/murderer angle
he did shoot his baby down by the river tho

see "Dead Flowers" is an excellent example of a song that starts as a joke and ends as something moving and sweet. Maybe it's Keith's cracked harmonies and Taylor's solo.

ah shit how could I forget that!!! okay I retract the murderer bit

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He killed a dog in "Revolution Blues" too.