folk artists you don't fuck with

I don't fuck with Tom Jans either

awww kate & anna in my heart 4ever...:(((

was listening to heartbeats accelerating the other day and between that and matapedia K&A made two of my favorite records in the 90's of all decades!

Really?? I have that first self titled with the cover full of promise, but I never return to it.

i dunno dawgs, joan's vanguard records from the early 60s are some straight fire. tom rush is pretty killer, if only for "no regrets". and mcgarrigles made some of the best records of the 70s straight up.

Kinda disappointed that this isn't a thread about folk artists you don't fuck with because they would kick your ass.

ha, yeah that's what i thought too. like "do NOT fuck with ralph stanley because he will kill u"
http://www2.newsadvance.com/mgmedia/image/630/394/209248/bills-back-porch-ralph-stanley-70803/

mcgarrigles are all-time for me. i just love them. listen again, jacob. or try another one.

Karen Dalton will cut you.

But seriously, I never really got Joan Baez.

Anyone who says they don't fuck with Karen Dalton is a savage.

ian you need arlo's running down the road album. it's great. clarence white, james burton, ry cooder, gene parsons. cool psych track. totally worth owning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xlmb8gG7HU
love this song/album

i don't listen to karen dalton. it's the truth. sorry, hepcats!

i feel like if karen dalton was a new artist everyone would hate her because everyone seems to hate that new speech impediment way of singing and she was kinda ground zero for that.

the mcgarrigles are so awesome

wouldn't she just be cat power if she were around today?

karen dalton has never done it for me.

I listen to more Peggy than Pete

yeah, joan. why bother. so many great singers in the world to listen to. also, with zzzzzzzzzzz folkies its like why not just listen to a really killer country record instead? there are only like 50 zillion killer country records. and they do folk better than a lot of folkies.

― scott seward, Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is OTM, but right on to Joan for singing "I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill Last Night" at Woodstock.

Mostly can't stand Joan Baez either. She's so painfully EARNEST, such a weird counterpoint to Dylan in that way.

the recent metal gear solid trailer had a song from an album joan baez did w/ennio morricone! i about fell out of my chair

"Sacco & Vanzetti" soundtrack!

pretty much any college-boy folk from the revival era ain't nothin to be fucked with by me

I don't fuck with Jackson C. Frank or Fred Neil. I think I'm supposed to? but zzzzzzzzz

yeah i've never been nuts about that jackson c frank record, aside from blues run the game (and I like covers of that song more than frank's own version).

I do not fuck with John Prine. IDGI

I don't fuck with the Limelighters.

Milk & Honey by Jackson C Frank is one of my favorite folk songs, the guy had a rough time in life too, suffered from 3rd degree burns from a childhood fire, drug problem, Paul Simon produce his record too! I like the fred Neil record I have.

John Prine seems like a likable guy though.

first john prine album is the one to hear.

i love fred neil.

i like the first bunch of prine records. i have a feeling i'd love 'em all if i heard em all.
fred neil i like in theory but only on 'sessions' does the vibe seem totally right..

i was thinking just this morning abt selling my karen dalton records.

i don't fuck w doc watson, particularly, believe it or not.

huh? even doc watson's instrumental stuff?

I don't f/w Ewan MacColl or Pete Seeger
Not sure why on the first, but the second just strikes me as hamfisted and possibly childish

John Prine is kinda boring

Joan Baez was the first person who came to mind though.

She did have a funny satanic panic song though.

prine is great!

xp Doc Watson never quite lived up to what he was supposed to be for me. But I love him on the Monroe/Watson stuff

From what I read, you wouldn't fuck with Dock Boggs...

I love Dock Boggs

i think mark meant in the "you better not fuck w/dock boggs cuz he was crazy" thing

seriously though if you've never been a prine fan but you've never heard the first prine album listen to it cuz its really good and fun and you will like it.

i don't listen to jo ann kelly in the same way that i don't listen to karen dalton. its not like i'm a purist or anything but again - like what i said about country records - i'd rather just listen to the blues. like, the blues blues. i don't listen to koerner, ray, and glover either. or other folkies who sang the blues. i don't listen to the holy modal rounders. i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? or blues rock in general.

(there are always exceptions. i adore tim hardin to death and he did the blues. heck, i adore DION to death when he did the blues. and i love dylan obviously. but in general...i can't even really listen to mose allison.)

i LIKE doc watson, but i'd rather listen to clarence ashley or bill monroe or norman blake or whatev

( i mean judy henske used to be my goddess when i was younger. but she was just so over the top sophie tucker + bessie smith + beatnik + pop + force of nature that it worked for me/her.)

feels like the right thread to admit i've owned woody guthrie's 'dust bowl ballads' for years and never listened to it.

i don't fuck with ramblin jack elliott.

i think a little doc goes a long way for me. hear one nice track and its nice but i don't need hours of him. i just really like country music! c&w, you know. 50s, and 60s, and 70s, mostly. i get all the olde-tymey picking and playing i need from that. and for bluegrass and more folky olde-tyme i'll listen to REALLY old stuff. i just don't listen to 70's and 80's and beyond guitar/fiddle/banjo albums much at all.

woody's dust-prog concept album is pretty fucking great though! a whole bunch of songs about dust is just a cool idea if you ask me.

maybe there are more than one? i have the purple label rca record of dust songs. i own next to no woody albums. i don't own any leadbelly albums.

Shuji Inaba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-kgrksYtbY

I dunno, I'm from Ohio. To me he sounds country. I know he had that record when he got super fat and played bluegrass
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/DxUbIuKGTjc/mqdefault.jpg
, but if you look at the guy, and his life, to me he's country. However, I'd believe he could be from Detroit in this picture.

http://bombsite.com/images/attachments/0001/0131/earle3_body.png

I'm not trying to convince anyone to like him, but just to say he's not horrible like the Kingston Trio.

btw i am aware that what i said about the first picture was uncharitable, and i am sorry.

But that's what so disappointing about Steve Earle, he showed so much promise in his younger. I don't know what happened, but he let us down.

Steve Earle seems like kind of his own thing that I do not fuck with. I just kind of don't know what to do with his music even though I can't pinpoint anything particularly bad about it.

Most New Americana, I just do not suffer gladly.

i like the kingston trio! haha, i like most of those late 50's/early 60's pop folk groups. their records always sound really good and i like the pop arrangements of olde tyme folk songs. they were making them new again! i mean the weavers kinda started that whole thing on a bigtime level, but i'd much rather listen to the limelighters than the weavers. or that alan arkin group with erik darling (i like the rooftop singers too):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUT_PFsFqho

yeah i haven't gotten over my distaste for that sound since i was a kid! i remember my parents thinking that i would like it, and they played a record for me and i turned up my nose super hard and said i didn't really get why it was so great. i was like 7 or 8. what a brat!

anyway i am sorry i insulted the kingston trio. i think this kind of folk music is too light and happy for me.

i think the kingston trio were actually the most...uh..credible? of those groups. they did some great songs. i mean just as introduction to a lot of those songs they were influential to a lot of people. i think they're entertaining. there are sooooo many lesser-known groups that put out records. be kinda cool to collect them. i also love the forgotten late-50's/early 60's female folk singers who put out records on tiny labels. there were a ton of those too even pre-joan. some of them are great. lady fair ballads and the like.

I grew up in a pretty folky family, especially my grandparents -- they were true Chicago lefties who held hootenannies at their home. My grandma had a duo that was invited to open for Pete Seeger on tour once, but she had a family and declined to go. Her guitar was even borrowed for the Weavers reunion at Ravinia when someone's guitar broke. Anyway, I sort of rediscovered this stuff in my own teenaged/college years, and I think when I started to find out about all the awesome stuff on folkways and the lomax records and the like (which they did have some of) and then started digging through grandma's record collection, I was sort of offput by the more polished sound of all the kingston trio and joan baez and even odetta, that they owned, and I sort of felt like "you're so cool, why do you own all this stuff and not more of the REAL shit." But I did score a badass memphis minnie record from them. Anyway for them and for Pete Seeger there was a whole philosophy underpinning everything that was overtly political, whereas I was more just on some kind of adolescent quest for authenticity and rawness.

they were gateway drugs those people. dylan will tell you that. dave guard was a cool dude. i treasure this album even though i never play it cuz its an early judy henske sighting.

http://dennisleewilson.com/simplemachinesforum/gallery/1_28_10_10_4_11_39.jpg

took me FOREVER to find that album. like, 20 years ago. be easier now.

Steve Earle haters, listen to this heartbreaker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctDVZditHzY

Written in prison!

I think Steve Earle is good at what he does, I just don't have that much space in my life right now for Serious Songwriters Thinkin Baout Things

He's got some dumb rockin' stuff, too!

if you don't fuck with Chris Smither.... you should

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTreyRyUCH4

I like the greenbriar boys!

I would have said Dan Fogelberg, but the other day I heard a song on the radio without knowing it was him, and really dug it. Long Way Home (Live In the Country) off his first album. I was guessing it was Poco as I was listening. Am I hopeless?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNcBXL2eYMQ

Bob Neuwirth's Havana Midnight is the one I really don't fuck with--one of my favorite records by anyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmWXlLxcOlU

Kingston Trio are classic! A lot of people were either crass or humorless in the early 80s. Not the Kingstons!

as much as i love john stewart's solo records, i've never really given the kingstron a try. i think they scare me.
hoyt axton's greenback dollar remains the one to beat for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6MG2abVe6g

Sandy Denny. or Anne Briggs. or Tim Hardin

duuuuuuuuuude.....

First two steve earle records are classic country rock records

Reading thru this thread i realize there are two ways "don't fuck with xxxxxx" can be interpreted, and about half of us did each way.

For me, "don't fuck with someone" usually means don't mess with them since they should universally be considered awesome. It's in that sense I meant my earlier post, lest i be misunderstood.....