The ILM 1980s Anti-Rolling Stone Canon (FREE PUSSY RIOT) Rock Poll Results - Tracks! Final top 10 results happening right now.

Genuinely thought this had a shot at making #1.

choon

I would have probably voted for "Debaser" if it had been nominated.

Not even sure about this, listening now. Whatever its virtues may be, they don't seem related to rocking in a heavy way, to my ears.

"Eric's Trip" is another track that just doesn't feel like a standout for me.

"She Sells Sanctuary" was #20 on my list. I'm considering why I think of the Cult as a heavier band than the Pixies. I think I'd be pretty surprised it was #1 on this list, considering how other mainstream hard rock has placed.

38 Black Flag - Depression 722 Points, 11 Votes One #1
http://open.spotify.com/track/2PlwkgeUSTw8V8j76o86oy
http://youtu.be/cv6OwbBqQEA

I'm considering why I think of the Cult as a heavier band than the Pixies.

So, as far as Love is concerned, they weren't. Later Cult probably is though.

I'm not sure I'll ever get Black Flag.

I get to be jjj about BF.

I'll give "Depression" a listen though.

I think Black Flag is a much better band in theory than they are in practice

37 Pixies - Gigantic 725 Points, 15 Votes
http://open.spotify.com/track/3oqJ3POeLfa2TJh6BFLhPM
http://youtu.be/Nx_SKiSmvdc

very happy about the 2 Janes Addiction tracks, and Sonic Youth's "Pacific Coast Highway."

Who the fuck cares if people don't like Sonic Youth?

"its a case of sonic youth fans voting for tracks from albums"

just speaking for myself, as a fan, it's the 6 or 7 standout tracks on each album that make me rep for the albums.

Weird. I've never really had much of a sense of what Black Flag is in theory, or what there is to understand about them. They seem pretty immediate and straightforward, though that doesn't mean I think everyone should like them or anything. (I don't have much time for them any more, but I at least played the heck out of Damaged at one point in my life.)

I mean, they don't seem like one of those bands built around much of an idea.

it's not like I don't listen to shouty music at all (I mean I voted for "Flashback") but there's something about the Black Flag style of hardcore I find almost impenetrable

but enough of that, let's talk about how "Gigantic" is a fucking awesome song

36 Meat Puppets - Plateau 729 Points, 13 Votes
http://open.spotify.com/track/1szDksEZ8FUIESuhvoi2yN
http://youtu.be/F0IWHxvswLk

this is very gentle song, huh

says the guy who voted for the cure

Meat Puppets, bleah.

by the time i'd heard the MP 'Plateau' I'd heard the Nirvana Unplugged version too many times to be convinced by the original

says the guy who voted for the cure

says the guy who voted for "Give Me It"

35 Sonic Youth - Eliminator Jr. 737 Points, 10 Votes
http://open.spotify.com/track/1fmQi4ZRpuUKfhfKewqXS3
http://youtu.be/wbrvGu5bBvc

At this point, I'm sorry I voted for the two Sonic Youth tracks I voted for (one of which hasn't even shown up yet).

lol

If any you punks voted a SY track as your number one, so help me...

... I just hope it's the same one I voted for

black flag another situation where I don't think particularly strong tracks were nominated for them

kinda surprised by "gigantic" placing, thought that might be top 10 tho maybe that's because it's the only pixes song I like and y'all luv the pixies

you know, a lot of Sonic Youth is meandering nonsense in the best possible way

I wanna say that the more I listen to it, the more I feel there's a deconstructed Bauhaus element to a lot of their 80s stuff

oh fuck why did i nom no wiseblood fuuuuuck

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, September 26, 2012 1:29 AM (9 hours ago)

yeah I woulda voted the fuck out of "0-0"

http://youtu.be/F_j3g-3jSfs

Talk about being late catching up on the playlist. . . I am enjoying Bon Jovi and Rush and even Skid Row a lot more than I'm enjoying any of the more alternative/underground stuff so far. Maybe the mean kids in school were right to make fun of the queer music that queers like me listened to. (Except obviously I still love X and "Mr. Jones" and so on and don't really mean this.)

by the time i'd heard the MP 'Plateau' I'd heard the Nirvana Unplugged version too many times to be convinced by the original

― pandemic, Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:35 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I feel like the original gets a real charge in the coda, whereas the Nirvana Unplugged version sort of plods anthemically. It's a good kind of plod, but not as eye-openingly psychedelic.

imo.

based only on memories, not actually listening to the songs right now.

34 Slayer - Angel of Death 742 Points, 13 Votes
http://open.spotify.com/track/61dTqhd46yMkSWmC5LAh5F
http://youtu.be/K6_zsJ8KPP0

yeah the "plateau" is all about the 2 min mark. some of the best meat puppets songs work that way, plunking along pleasantly till something comes along and lifts the top of yr skull off e.g. the gtr solo on "enchanted porkfist".

I will come back to that Slayer track once I finish with my Underworld detour

Voted for Plateau, all about the last thirty seconds

I mean, they don't seem like one of those bands built around much of an idea.

Making punk rock more extreme and dissonant, then fusing this with hard rock/metal, throwing wild chromatic guitar leads over top of it all, bellowing raw expressions of masculine angst and frustration: it all sounds good on paper. Somehow, though, while e.g. Bad Brains can sound dazzling to me, Black Flag nearly always just sounds like a mess. Slayer is actually another example where I can see they were doing some comparable things but everything seems to come together much better to my ears.

The one SY track I voted for hasn't appeared yet and I fully expect it will. Sorry guys. If it's any consolation I didn't vote for any of their albums why because of this happening.

x-post

Your explanations of things on this thread have been pretty good. That's another good breakdown. Black Flag's messiness generally sounds very organized to me, so we're obviously hearing things differently here.

Haha, on the other hand I've never really "gotten" Bad Brains, but I normally keep quiet about it.

that doesn't compute to me, unless you just hate HR's voice

I definitely get early Bad Brains but kinda wish they'd stayed broken up after Rock For Light.

haha listening to "Angel of Death" is making me think "around A Mind..., Ministry turned into a less interesting version of Slayer with a sampler"

wait waht

no post-Rock For Light Bad Brains = no "Re-Ignition"

candyman

I haven't listened to much Bad Brains, so maybe I'm off here. All I know is I've never felt drawn in by their music, and I remember it as vaguely messy, but listening to "I Against I" just now was okay. I think part of the issue here is that I just don't remember hearing them much at the same to I was listening to Black Flag or related things, so I wasn't exposed to them in a big way at the time I would have been most receptive to their sound. I think there's just a random thing here, that I don't remember knowing anyone who was really into them, but surely they were being played on college radio in Philadelphia in the 80s--but I just don't remember noticing their songs. Ramble ramble ramble.

Re-Ignition one of the greatest riffs of all time.

33 Ministry - Stigmata 759 Points, 14 Votes
http://open.spotify.com/track/3gIxT1s0gqauz95wbwBzLj
http://youtu.be/2Chgc6vwmuo
http://youtu.be/YBi8U9hJy-E
http://youtu.be/qxaPj19VnRA

it's weird when I read about ppl not getting black flag, they were a lingua franca of punk in the 80s. some liked west coast punk, some were into the DC or boston scene, some grew out of or didn't like hardcore anymore, but most folks could find something in black flag's sprawling body of work to like. after not listening to them for years, I went through a late 90s / early 00s phase of returning to their stuff and finding it as bracing as it was back in the day. so, a lot of love and respect for black flag, and not just for the huge role they played in building the infrastructure of the american underground.

I definitely get early Bad Brains but kinda wish they'd stayed broken up after Rock For Light.

― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:08 AM (8 minutes ago)

ha truth bomb

where's dan?

I read "Re-Ignition" as "Ignition (Remix)" and wondered what the fuck Bad Brains had to do with R Kelly.

Stevie Chick's book convinced me Greg Ginn and Rollins were dicks when they were in Black Flag. And I ended up thinking less of Chuck for tolerating and, to a degree, feeding it.

32 The Jesus and Mary Chain - Never Understand 768 Points, 15 Votes
http://open.spotify.com/track/3tArKAiS8FGNpU9q3H2Iba
http://youtu.be/b2bzrCCKDwc