Kelis - C/D

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Nah dud. What was eventually great about her debut album was due to Neptunes doing a good job.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 1 September 2003 08:01 (twenty-two years ago)

she is fantastic and wanderland is a much better record than people think. i actually think it's the best thing she's done. did i hear geir saying the neptunes did a good job? am i imagining this?

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 1 September 2003 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic.
I started enjoying r'n'b with "Caught out there", which sounded amazing to me, before I thought the entire genre was crap and then I checked out Neptunes and Timbaland stuff.
I saw her live, performing her songs and covers like "Smells like teen spirit", she really rocked.
I like most of the things she did, especially collaborations with Guru and Richard X, Timo Maas.
I hope the new LP will sold more than the underrated "wanderland".

Sami (Sami), Monday, 1 September 2003 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Kelis is back :) Both 'Kaleidoscope' and 'Wanderland' are patchy, but she's an amazing pop star and one day she will make a masterpiece.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 1 September 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"Milkshake" is super good. Does anyone know the producer line-up for her new one? Is it all Neps or is Richard X on board too?

Nick H, Monday, 1 September 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

nick, see: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18295

(producers allegedly include timbaland, diddy, dame grease, r saadiq and dallas austin)(no i don't know who all of those people are either)

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 1 September 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I think people would like Wanderland more if it wasn't released in the midst of lots of other Neptunes stuff. They were using a lot of similar tricks (swoony soul, minimal synth-rave etc.) elsewhere, such that while Wanderland is as good as anything else they were doing it didn't sound as out-of-nowhere as Kaleidoscope (and indeed Kaleidoscope still sounds out-of-nowhere due to its sugary maximalist production).

I think "Popular Thug" (original) is her finest moment though.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

dame grease is a gothy dmx/ruff ryders beatmaker, r saadiq was in tony toni tone and does nu soul stuff now, dallas austin is an rnb dude who did pink and tlc and monica stuff

trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I initially thought Dame Grease was a woman, adopting a Judi Dench-style name.

Nick H, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
Ooh, new Kelis album out in July, name escapes me at the moment.

I heard new single 'Bossy' yesterday which hasn't stuck in my head, but I need to give it a few more plays.

My girlfriend showed me a feature of her in Elle magazine and she appeared to be sporting a Supremes-like straight bob haircut too.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:00 (twenty years ago)

name of album will be kelis was here

'bossy' is initially underwhelming - it's VERY minimal, though when i listened back to tasty at the weekend i realised that she was playing with sparse plinky-plonky 808 sounds on quite a few of the album tracks there. i think it's good, and it makes me very intrigued to hear what she'll be up to on the album, but it's an odd choice of single. i heard it last year and thought it was just an unreleased demo like 'running mate' - i didn't think it had the oomph to be a lead single!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:14 (twenty years ago)

she's on posters all over london right now for her live date. she looks v muscly in them.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:15 (twenty years ago)

also wtf am i on about upthread, both kaleidoscope and wanderland are start-to-finish gold.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:20 (twenty years ago)

once the bassline & the extra prince of persia plinking come in it aint that minimal after all - it does have like nothing under her on the chorus tho. i was really looking forward to hearing too $hort submit to kelis but he just wont ever! instead he bosses her around to tell other dudes shes bossy, like hes the kingpin responsible for her bossiness! whatever too short!

karri miback (cruisy), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:27 (twenty years ago)

"Bossy" is awesome.

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:20 (twenty years ago)

agreed

I knew short dog wasn't goin out like that though, dream on

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

this song is garbage

and what (ooo), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

'Help Me', the Timo Maas track, is super dope.

Hal! Jordan! HAL! JORDAN! (Barima), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 07:07 (twenty years ago)

HOW SURPRISING THAT ETHAN DOESN'T LIKE THIS SONG

Dan (Although This Time I Agree With Him, Heh) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

i played this out the other day and it sounds a lot better on a big system, the bassline really comes into its own. it reminds me slightly of 'erotic discourse' of all things!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 07:50 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
I'M BOSSY!

has this grown on anyone else as much as it has me? really badly want to hear the new album...

Jimmy_tango (Jimmy_tango), Friday, 28 July 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

whenever the woman puts on lipgloss i sing 'I'M GLOSSY'

she hates it

Mike Hooter (jaxon), Friday, 28 July 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

You should extend that to dental floss.

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 28 July 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

i was really looking forward to hearing too $hort submit to kelis but he just wont ever! instead he bosses her around to tell other dudes shes bossy, like hes the kingpin responsible for her bossiness! whatever too short!

i hear this the opposite -- he's too smart to tangle with her, so the best he can do is be her hype man.

great song. sexy video.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 28 July 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

i have been listening to this nigh on constantly since i stole it last night. i like how minimal and unhurried it is, it makes it seem opulent and lazy which fits lyrically. i love how much fun a track can be just with some 808 beats and a bit of good synth work. i haven't liked a pop song this much in a very long time...

Andrew Harrison (andrewtothemax), Thursday, 3 August 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

I HATE YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW!

AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Thursday, 3 August 2006 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

"Bossy" = WORST. SONG. EVAR.

Just needed to be said.

It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 3 August 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

WRONG

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.fillerx.com/files/1154437943-keliswashere.jpg

Has anyone heard this? It sucks she's not working with the Neptunes anymore...

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 3 August 2006 06:52 (nineteen years ago)

this cover sucks.

Grand (grand), Thursday, 3 August 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of it is produced by WILL.I.AM :( :( :(

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 3 August 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think 'bossy' is that bad, and it's definitely a grower, but i worry for the album if this is considered lead single material.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 August 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

Like U is nice, lots of big opera samples...

And I think Bossy has a lot in common with Milkshake, with that stupid ringtone friendly repetitious melody. To be honest I'm glad the Neptune's aren't producing the album, maybe its because the Wanderland album bombed considering how big the singles where.. what I've heard sounds better for the lack of there trademark beat shuffle which was *Everywhere* when Wanderland came out..

jk_ (jk@gabba), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

That's an awful cover.

Not heard "Bossy" at all, but still enjoy "Milkshake" and "Trick Me" on occaision.

steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

i like the cover! it's better than the tasty one.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I think I dislike the name more than the cover necessarily. And yes, Tasty was another terrible cover.

steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

it wasn't terrible, just boring and identikit. she was still pretty on it. i really like the kelis was here title, though if the album is disappointing the past tense will be unfortunate.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

everyone seems to be into this 30s chic.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

The promo shots for the album have her in a bunch of sub-Agent Provocateur poses. HOT.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of it is produced by WILL.I.AM :( :( :(
-- Konal Doddz (stevem7...), August 3rd, 2006.

He's actually done some pretty good production work lately.

I still like bossy. Thats Shondrae, right?

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Rodney is almost OTM; it's not the worst song ever but WOW do I never, ever, ever want to hear it again.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure you can already hear "Bossy" by pressing the red button on any Casio keyboard...

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

the braxe/falke bossy remix (well, one of them) of bossy is TOTALLY BOSS. kicks the original's ass.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

HEL-lo...

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

braxe/falke rmx!!!!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

s1ocki very otm. the only thing i'm really crazy about the original is the sopranos quote. and as long as superfine kelis is on her album covers ain't none of them going to be 'awful'.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 3 August 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but that cover does work awful hard to separate the words "Kelis" and "superfine" from one another.

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Thursday, 3 August 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Rodney is almost OTM; it's not the worst song ever but WOW do I never, ever, ever want to hear it again.

Rhetoric, dude.

It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 3 August 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

I like the SebastiAn remix much better than the Braxe/Falke remix. And so should you.

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Thursday, 3 August 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

switch remix, people! k-wtf factor, esp the end!

etc (esskay), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

https://pitchfork.com/news/kelis-says-she-wasnt-told-beyonce-sampled-her-on-renaissance/

“Milkshake” is interpolated on Beyonce's “Energy.” When she heard the song was sampled, Kelis likened it to “theft.” She is not listed as one of the producers, composers, or lyricists on the sampled song and has previously discussed the terms of her early contract.

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 July 2022 11:32 (three years ago)

It's the delivery of the lines "On stage, rockin', I'm star crazy, Cocoa flow like 1980's" using the flow from the Milkshake hook that's in question? used to be a commonplace and benign thing to make references like that

maybe I'm not hearing it right

corrs unplugged, Friday, 29 July 2022 11:42 (three years ago)

Kelis thinks she should have gotten a songwriting credit for "Milkshake" long ago, but acknowledges she signed a contract then. So since there's a credit on the B album to the Neptunes for the "interpolation" she thinks she should have been credited as well. But yeah that used to be commonplace to make melodic references like that.

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 July 2022 12:05 (three years ago)

Aah now I get it, thx

corrs unplugged, Friday, 29 July 2022 12:12 (three years ago)

ten months pass...

So she's dating Bill Murray. Huh.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:08 (three years ago)

Um…

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:08 (three years ago)

Great revive?

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:08 (three years ago)

I don’t know what famous people do.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:10 (three years ago)

Pondering it too much, that way lies madness.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:23 (three years ago)

Not that this will stop me.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:36 (three years ago)

I don't have any actual opinion about Kelis dating Bill Murray, I just thought it was interesting in a "pictures of famous people you wouldn't expect together" way.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:41 (three years ago)

Right, of course.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:42 (three years ago)

Guess we might as well actually see a picture.

https://consequence.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Kelis-and-Bill-Murray.jpeg

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 June 2023 00:26 (three years ago)


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