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"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

weird

moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (eighteen years ago)

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (eighteen years ago)

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Dead Man = Neil's best electric work?

Matt P, Monday, 15 December 2008 10:31 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

look at the bill for this thing
http://www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/cultural-festivals-and-events/event-listings/hal-willner's-neil-young-project-_70660zv.html

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

I'm assuming thats a different Chris Brown, otherwise o_O

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, probably?
a mix of eh, cool! and whaaaa?
Sam Beam of Iron & Wine
Chris Brown
Vashti Bunyan
Robert Burger
Brendan Canning
Fred Cash
Jason Collett
Julie Doiron
Kevin Drew
Sam Goldberg
Shahzad Ismaily
Eric Mingus
Sun Kil Moon
Jenni Muldaur
Ambrosia Parsley
Justin Peroff
Ben Perowsky
Joan as Policewoman
Elizabeth Powell
Bill Priddle
Lou Reed
Alasdair Roberts
Ron Sexsmith
Teddy Thompson
James Blood Ulmer
Andrew Whiteman
Doug Wieselman

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

hoping for a mingus/blood ulmer/reed jam on down by the river

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j//msnbc/Components/Video/071107/tdy_chrisbrown_song3_071107.vmodv4.jpg

A MAAAAAAAAAID

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, some good names on there and some wtf ones as well. I scanned it quickly the first time and saw "Bill Priddle" as "Mark Prindle".

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

http://celeb.wohoo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/chris-brown.jpg
can i get a heart of gooooold?

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

IT'S THE WOMAN IN YOU THAT MAKES YOU WANNA PLAY THIS GAAAAAME!

TAKE IT, ULMER!

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

haha

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

wish they would substitute teddy thompson for richard thompson

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

Neil Young and Bert Jansch, May 24 at DAR Constitution Hall ($83.50-$193.50)

Don't think I want to spend that much to see him on this solo tour.

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:17 (sixteen years ago)

great bill tho

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

man i would love to see bert jansch

Ndamukong HOOS (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

Neil has always been at the vanguard of steep ticket prices.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:24 (sixteen years ago)

geez that is a ridiculous ticket price

I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:25 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8nveweVvh0

tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:26 (sixteen years ago)

there is a single $248 seat available at the worcester mass show

thank god I have plans that night

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

i didn't go see neil the last time he was in town because tix were $100 bucks ... i had just bought the archives so I had blown my neil budget for the year, really.

tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

I missed this poll. I realize that there's no accounting for personal taste, but I do find it unsettling that somebody counts Everybody's Rockin' as his/her favourite Neil Young album.

clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

The cheap seats here in Houston are $69 w/service charge. The big problem though is it's a frontgate event and they don't have outlets in town, so you have to either go to the venue (Jones Hall) or purchase online. According to the seating chart, I've got a nice balcony seat.

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 April 2010 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

Not that I'd have voted for it but shocked that Freedom pulled a zero on this one too, esp with Trans pulling in two votes.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:49 (sixteen years ago)

ha, didn't even look at these results ... they are a little ridiculous, but what the heck. (Only 1 vote for Zuma?)

tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:55 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, those too. Everybody's Rockin'-1 and Old Ways-3, and, at the other end, Zuma-1 and Freedom-0--these are all very puzzling. Everything else, even albums I dislike (Trans) or consider overrated (On the Beach), more or less makes sense.

clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

only one vote for harvest 'makes sense'?!

ian, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

I would say so, yes. I think most people who are going to take the time to vote in a Neil Young poll would choose something else as their favourite. If, on the other hand, you surveyed 100 random music fans, undoubtedly it finishes first.

clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, i wouldn't vote for harvest as my fave neil young album ... not sure what i'd vote.

tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

You'd think with an environment as committed to scientific results and objectivity as ILM that the poll results would make SOME KIND of SENSE!!

Trip Maker, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

Point taken, sure--but all of that aside, I still find it hard to believe that there's someone who a) cares enough about Neil Young to click on this thread and cast a vote, and b) counts Everybody's Rockin' as his greatest album. It's just funny-weird.

clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

Or maybe it was just meant as a joke, and all my puzzlement is the punch line.

clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

being someone who voted for popeye in the robert altman poll, I get it

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

and yeah the poll results are wacky but almost a third of all votes went to ditch trilogy releases which is:

a) about right from a macro-career perspective
b) unsurprising for ILM
c) frighteningly consistent with the results of this poll: Best of Neil Young studio records

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a6A6oTFdcw

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39VjfTW0Xys&feature=related

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

Next Young wanted to release Old Ways, a country record he cut in a two-day Nashville session. He felt it was a strong, commercial work, part of a series that included After the Gold Rush and Comes A Time. Geffen felt differently. They rejected it.

"They said it scared them," says Young. "They wanted more rock and roll. Okay, fine. I'll give ya some rock and roll. I almost vindictively gave them Everybody's Rockin'." He greased back his hair, put on shades, and went out on the road with a '50s-styled band called the Shocking Pinks. "I got way into that guy," says Young. "I was that guy for months. He was out there. It was a movie to me. Nobody saw it but me, but who gives a shit."

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

that Wonderin' video is hilarious

I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:24 (sixteen years ago)

Let me add: "Wonderin'" is fantastic (song and video). I always counted it as Everybody's Rockin''s one reason for being. Discovering, via Archives and Fillmore East, that's it's been around forever was a surprise. And now Everybody's Rockin' may have lost its one reason for being.

clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:29 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, Jim definitely brings the right vibe to this, it would have fallen so flat had it been just Goose playing it.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 16:00 (one week ago)

jim had a nice delivery but the second the goose vocalist came in i noped out, that kinda voice gives me the heebie jeebies.

shaking babies (map), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 16:05 (one week ago)

'cinnamon girl' is a top 3 neil tune for me i think. will never be able to get enough of that riff.

shaking babies (map), Thursday, 2 July 2026 21:38 (two days ago)

Oh indeed---and in the era when he wrote it, Top 40 Radio Rock could some times take catchiness way under my skin---like even vubblegum, like "Crimson and Clover" still spreads though my head w/o warning---and:
Lester Bangs: hey Lou, why doncha cover "Sugar Sugar"?
Lou: We're not good enough.
Yes you were, you jaded old hipster, who started out writing catalog songs that aspired to such catchy novelty!

dow, Thursday, 2 July 2026 21:52 (two days ago)

also the one note guitar solo is so brilliant

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2026 21:54 (two days ago)

EKTIN is one of the best, for me Round and Round always hits the hardest. Such a hypnotizing and tender-sounding lyric

'Round and 'round and 'round we spin
To weave a wall to hem us in

omar little, Thursday, 2 July 2026 22:14 (two days ago)

gah i love that song. love the harmonies, for some reason i thought it was emmylou harris but i'm dead wrong haha (it's robin lane). it's been way too long since i listened to everybody knows. i just listened to the way down in the rust bucket version of 'cinnamon girl' and hopped around.

then decided to start from the beginning. i haven't heard very much post-ragged glory neil. the divorced man thing has scared me off. but 'love to burn' is fantastic. was really into the soloing on that and 'country home.' switched to something else during 'bite the bullet,' not sure about that one haha. i'll probably fall in love with the rest of it.

shaking babies (map), Thursday, 2 July 2026 23:28 (two days ago)

glad that mirror ball and SWA have new standalone cd releases. have ordered and can't wait to obsess over. Haven't listened to the former since the year it was released. think remastered versions of both will kill

get bento (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 2 July 2026 23:53 (two days ago)

My friend said that "Revolution Blues" sounds like a Purple Tape-era Pixies song and now I can't unhear it.

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 July 2026 01:01 (eighteen hours ago)

nah, if there’s a Pixies NY song it’s “Yonder Stands the Sinner”

My homies buttthole surfers' record sounds like a f (Western® with Bacon Flavor), Saturday, 4 July 2026 03:50 (fifteen hours ago)

Dang, ain't that right

Cow_Art, Saturday, 4 July 2026 04:05 (fifteen hours ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpYehve028w

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 July 2026 12:54 (six hours ago)

Was waiting for someone to point out the obvious answer!

My homies buttthole surfers' record sounds like a f (Western® with Bacon Flavor), Saturday, 4 July 2026 18:07 (one hour ago)


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