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judge for yurself peanut gallerists
http://www.myspace.com/aidswolf

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)

i don't know them as people, but onstage they are the usual boring wanna-be bad bratty noiseniks. i get the impression a lot of mtl people suck up to them because they run a silkscreen company that lots of people like. they make nice posters.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

i wood sukk up to people who make nice posters if i was in a band

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:59 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that's what i'm saying. they make really nice posters.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

you're not in a band?

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:02 (twenty years ago)

I picture them as members of Wolf Eyes and Wolf Parade but all sallow and skinny and playing with IVs in their arms. Some of them are in beds and lapse into comas during the set.

Oh OK that is pretty offensive.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:02 (twenty years ago)

xpost

nope. and not in mtl. and i don't know them. so whatevs.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:04 (twenty years ago)

1. They really do make incredible posters.

2. There's a band in San Francisco called Child Pornography. I would not want to google them.

3. I'll be at the Child Abuse show tommorrow (Fri) @ Asterisk if anyone wants to hang out.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:04 (twenty years ago)

i realise this makes me sound like a non-noise listening doofus, but i am one.

still - isn't the thing with most noise music that it's pretty interchangeable? i mean even more so than most other genres. and that given the interchangeability of the -sound-, a lot rests on a) the fun-ness of the live show, and b) the band's image/gimmick?

so the fact that the album's pretty mediocre ends up meaning a lot less than whether they're a good time, playing live, and whether their particular aesthetic ("sexy"! slightly offensive! arty! naked in a wood!) appeals to you.

(and Seripop's posters are fucking great)

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:06 (twenty years ago)

I don't think they are a noise band.

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

xpost

I'm with you. They are definitely more art project than band, but I think the art project is mighty fun, even though their attempts at "shocking" stunts are C-level at best

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

http://www.exclaim.ca/images/point_AIDS_wolf.jpg
naked in a wood is underrated

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

nnck naked in a crick is better.

no, and no.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:12 (twenty years ago)

naked people looking very uncomfortable in the woods

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)

http://myspace-563.vo.llnwd.net/00134/36/56/134476563_l.jpg

they're naked in the woods, they have a didgeridoo...

EVERYBODY CALM DOWN - FALSE ALARM - IT IS JUST HIPPIES

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

moderate safe search on at work - no "ken's at electric lake" gatefold for you!

(unless senseiDancer delivers the goods)

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:19 (twenty years ago)

EVERYBODY CALM DOWN - FALSE ALARM - IT IS JUST HIPPIES
hugely on the money

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:23 (twenty years ago)

hstencil - ok maybe "noise" isn't the right genre name, given the breadth of acts it could include. (Arab on Radar don't sound like SunnO)))) But maybe, like, artcore? uh, i dunno. whatever genre AIDS wolf play?

i'm not sure if this is a joke or what... cbc is aparentlly disscussing banning AIDS wolf from thier airwaves as our name is too offensive for the canadian sensibility.

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)

http://www.gigposters.com/posters/53253.jpg

Now why would you say these people are hippies?

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:27 (twenty years ago)

arab on radar = not noise
sunn0)) = not noise
most stuff = not noise, except the stuff that is noise

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:28 (twenty years ago)

x-post
I find it interesting all the people wringing their hands over a band they have not heard. Like I said I like their music, but I can't imagine being "offended" by them

AIDS Wolf also not "noise"

― chris besinger (chris besinger), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:29 (twenty years ago)

believe me I am not offended. I was just commenting on Hopper's piece.

I could care less about genre specifics.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

http://myspace-594.vo.llnwd.net/00368/49/57/368657594_l.jpg

this i find rather awesome

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

wolf eyes = not noise
noise = not noise

nothing is noise. except for like the first elvis presley singles before he sold out and started combing his hair.

― In the city of the damned, Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

no, elvis is "race music."

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)

i thought "chariots of fire" was race music.

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

only once every four years.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)

doesn't an African win every year?

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

not in the winter olympics.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:05 (twenty years ago)

http://okladki-divx.neostrada.pl/covers/c/cool_runnings.jpg

― Ali G (Eppy), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:09 (twenty years ago)

I was this close to posting that same image. I declined b/c I figured Hstencil would make some pedantic comment about how Jamaica != Africa.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:10 (twenty years ago)

n/p

― ThePostingName (Eppy), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:11 (twenty years ago)

There is a land far, far away
Where's there's no night
There's only day

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:14 (twenty years ago)

JAYMaiCa

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:14 (twenty years ago)

Wait til JH hears about Abortion Bucket.

People my age trying to get shocked are kind of quaint.

― Abu Hamster (noodle vague), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:17 (twenty years ago)

forget Abortion Bucket, the only shocking name to her would be Grant Application Denied.

― ziti sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:22 (twenty years ago)

booooyaaaaaa!

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:50 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand the brouhaha over the AIDS Wolf name. Then again, I was in a band called Cancer Clown so maybe I'm not the best one to judge.

Hopper seems to be saying:
1) I'm offended
2) These bands suck
3) If these bands didn't suck it would justify the offensiveness (e.g. Albini's gun was loaded so apparently he's OK)

Aside from that morally questionable stance (and Hopper is making a moral argument here), I have a hard time reading this as an AIDS Wolf "takedown" since she didn't even stick around to hear the band. Taken at face value, all her rant tells me is that Bloodyminded may not be very compelling live and AIDS Wolf has an immature merch guy. Um, so what?

It seems short-sighted and narrow-minded to besmirch a varied and variegated noise scene that arguably includes the likes of AIDS Wolf, Prurient, Lightning Bolt, Wolf Eyes, Zeena Parkins, Ikue Mori, Can't/Jessica Rylan, Business Lady, Sightings, The Bunnybrains, No Neck Blues Band, Merzbow, Borbetomagus, Sunn 0))), The Magik Markers, To Live And Shave In LA, Landed, and Sonic Youth.

I'll leave it to someone else to subdivide these bands into their micro-genres, but they frequently play shows with each other, move in the same circles, have overlapping fanbases. Some engage in sub-Whitehouse outrage-baiting tactics, some don't. Painting all "noise bands" with the same broad brush is A PRETTY POINTLESS EXERCISE IN 2005 AD. Always has been.

― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Apparently none of those people are noise though.

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

pls desist with wolf band names. thx

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Uh, the guy at the merch booth saying "AIDS Wolf gave me Aids!" isn't offensive? What sort of things do people find offensive, then?

― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:41 (twenty years ago)

maybe aids wolf gave him aids or something

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Uh, the guy at the merch booth saying "AIDS Wolf gave me Aids!" isn't offensive? What sort of things do people find offensive, then?
-- Mark (r-...), February 10th, 2006 12:41 PM.

More stupid and tactless than offensive. Sarah Silverman's act is more offensive. Plus, what does the random spoutings of a guy at a merch booth have to do with anything?

And now I'm offended that you're offended. Offensensitivity.

― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Edward she didn't say it would be "ok" if the gun was loaded, she said it would be "saying something" whereas these acts are all shock without framing or context and are really 'about nothing.' She wasn't giving Albini a pass.

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

So, was Albini "saying something?"

― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

they should change their name to a picture of muhammed and tour syria. calling yourself AIDS Wolf and playing for a bunch of kids who have been reading Vice since they were 10 isn't that impressive.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Why does music always have to say something? That's why I like noise!

Instead of performing some socio-feminist-global-policital vivisection of an M.I.A. song, I can just turn off my fucking brain and watch Hair Police ruin an amp.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:11 (twenty years ago)

xpost: It was all about the rape, man.

― js (honestengine), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

It took much longer for someone to bring up Vice in this thread than I thought it would! Maybe their status as a hipsters-you-don't-like signifier is waning.

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

AIDS Wolf may rule or suck, don't know or particularly care, but is the name offensive just 'cause it has the word "AIDS" in it? 'cause that's not really a good reason to be offended, I don't think

dude @ merch booth, OK, it's juvenile but not much more offensive than, say, anything else in the world

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

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u mean once they became a trio?

― flopson, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

I think so? I once tried to ask Chloe the question as delicately as I could-- "how did your band get so good suddenly?"-- and she said they stopped what they had been doing and spent a year reworking and revising.

Their second-last show at Casa is up on Youtube and I re-watched it to make sure I Wasn't Just Kidding Myself and I'm not, it was super super

― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that was a good era

― flopson, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

seripop art>>>>>>aids wold music

― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, sure, but that art is pretty rad so

idk i claimed to have hated aw for years & while i never fully got on board, i gotta say their live show was always really brutal and crazy and whether good or bad got a really strong response out of me every time. i was never bored and never walked out on one of their sets

― flopson, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

I like Seripop just fine but don't think it needs to be a, what do they call it? False binary

― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

This is the show?: http://youtu.be/u8w4l_iIxjo

Some cool stuff for sure.

Anyone into Drainolith?

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

What is Drainolith
*googles*
OK!

― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

I walked out of an AW show in ~2006 at Tranzac when Chloe put her mouth over the mic and went OOOOOoOOOoOOOOOOOOOOO so loud that the tweeters glowed red and my ear started singing

― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

what kind of things did your ear sing?

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

"I got AIDS" iirc

― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

oh man, you even got it in the ear before?

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

I guess!

― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

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