Who Are The Worst Pop Journalists?

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Anything to add, Izzie?

DG, Friday, 23 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Probably off looking for Duff, Slash and Axl...

No other band has had quite 7-dwarves-ish type names.

Nicole, Friday, 23 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I know its no fair to pick on amateurs, but Juzwiak from Pitchfork manages to make a huge misstep in nearly every review he writes. Why do they keep him on? Mark?

(Also, the editor of Salon's books section, which is pop culture if not pop music, anyway I forget her name, but I despise her from start to finish. She's pure knee-jerk hipster reaction.)

Sterling Clover, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

one month passes...
I love Miranda Sawyer

But I loathe Kathryn Flett. Don't think she writes about music much tho. Luckily

jefedeljefes, Tuesday, 15 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I was going to say Neil Kulkani too - not just because he has stupid and/or bizarre opinions, but because, as we have seen here with other people doing EXACTLY the same thing, he always responded to criticism of them by REPEATING THEM MUCH MORE LOUDLY. e.g.

"I don't think it is entirely fair to say that people who don't like hip hop are racist, maybe they just don't like it?"

"NAZI!"

Etc etc ... i love swells when he is FUNNY, much much less when he tries to tell THE KIDS to listen to pop music instead of indie - Swells, they already ARE, it is no longer 1985 and you are no longer young.

Similarly Simon Price is a maddeningly smug self-obsessed and deluded old twat - i recently found an old MM with his "review" of the ROMO tour in it, which, after WEEKS of proclaiming how brilliant and relevant it was (and not just a damn sight easier that finding any actual new bands or anything) expressed DISGUST and horror at the fact that no-one actually turned out to see it. "Luckily, the London crowd were far better"... yes Simon.

MJ Hibbett, Tuesday, 15 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I have less than no interest in MJ Hibbert's music, and have no doubt he thinks I'm a bastard too, but I like his web site and I find his mini-feud with Pricey very amusing. Miranda Sawyer is one of the worst people in the world - she can spell and punctuate and all that, but I've lost count of how often I've read her stuff and been left open-mouthed with shock and just how dumb and ignorant it was. Careerist in the worst sense: what she says is not linked to what she thinks, but to what she thinks people will be interested to hear. Kulkarni is cool, not least because he was always the diametric opposite of Miranda Sawyer.

I'll tell you who's really shit, though - Johnny Rogan. Not strictly a journalist, but a shockingly inept writer nonetheless. Much of that Smiths book is toe-curling, and I just read his Wham! biog, which is snide and really, really excruciatingly written. On "Wham! Rap": "Even more irritating was the glee with which the rapper derided his flabbergasted antagonist, whose point of view remained unuttered." Lads throwing water around at The Final concert are variously described as "repugnantly oafish...salivating animals...bestial water-spitting louts..." existing in "the stench- filled sandpit of infantile degeneracy." But if you really want a laugh, read his slim volume on Van Morrison, which ranks alongside Tony Blackburn's autobiography "The Living Legend" as one of the most unintentionally hilarious books ever.

Taylor Parkes, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"the stench-filled sandpit of infantile degeneracy."

I love that! Tom, I don't know if FT is still looking for a catchphrase but if so I think you'd have a winner with that.

I hadn't even thought of Rogan, but looking back now I remember thinking how shockingly poor the Severed Alliance was. A good writer, no, even an average writer could have gotten a lot more out of the material he had. But he drew the most uninteresting conclusions in the most uninteresting way. But it was funny the way he was affronted by Morrissey's views on religion.

Nicole, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

the byrds book rocked. better than yer infantile reviews. and if you look like buffy you are one big saddo.

jimmy olson, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Who is supposed to look like Buffy?

Nicole, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Yeah, who looks like Buffy round here? Who is it? Tell me!

Taylor Parkes, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Actually, that Johnny Rogan quote is brilliant. It certainly beats 'ambassadors of context', which I still think of as amusingly archetypal Maker-ese.

I associate Miranda Sawyer with Select when it was good, with the result that although I can't remember anything she wrote I see this attack on her as an attack on something I like. Bad.

I find it hard to think of music journos I really loathe, though I would be hard-pressed to remember any I particularly like either. Very few of them have writing styles distinctive enough. Back in my hey-day of Melody Maker reading (some vague point in the very early '90s) all the writers merged into each other for me, as with the exception of Everett True (a bad writer) they all seemed to have the same enjoyably pseudy outlook on everything.

Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

actually, having looked up some ET stuff on the web I've decided Everett True is great. No, he still can't write, but there is something great about his Wa-Hey! enthusiasm about whatever he's into. Fannishness is the way forward.

The Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

probably ... everyone hear 'cept for th just cause he can stand the heat while the rest of you retreat back into yer bedsit to brush yer long thinning hair and cry to yer slowdive records.

paul, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Passion free writer at the NME.Got reduced to a contributor and has no where else to go.The man who brought the world Delta and Terris...

cockney red, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

The name of that passion free writer at the NME is Ted Kessler of course..

cockney red, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Actually the entire staff of The Face should be taken out and hung in public just for fun.That magazine epitomises everything that is wrong in the UK at the moment.Style over substance and not a decent writer amongst the lot of them.

cockney red, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

style over substance

you say that like its a bad thing;)

mind you, i don't read the face either...

gareth, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

simon reynolds simon reynolds simon reynolds simon reynolds simon reynolds simon reynolds simon reynolds simon reynolds simon reynolds sux dead donkey dicks!

ROBOT A. HULL, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"sux dead donkey dicks"

I thought you said he WASN'T rock'n'roll! Get yer story straight!

mark s, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

one month passes...
I have wondered the same thing myself. she'a all lips if you ask me. her book was a shambles- the jo whiley of journalism ie. token bird and little else. she studied Law at Oxford y'know...

abby drakes, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three weeks pass...
Mark Sutherland - "Oasis are better than the Beatles". Ian Watson - doesn't think music existed before 1993 - so indie, so indie. Andrew Perry - laughable "I'm into dub me, honest, I'm that cool", Mark "Billy" Beaumont.

fredandginger, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five months pass...
Simon Reynolds is lucid and passionate, as was Taylor Parkes (where is he now?). Swells is intermittently funny and punctures the pomposity of bands like Radiohead who, whilst ineffably fabulous, possibly need to take themselves just a teensy bit less seriously. Miranda Sawyer is cool. So what if she did Law at Oxford? Good for her.

None of your Squeeze Wax, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I find it shocking that in nearly a year no one has found it in their heart to nominate Gina Arnold, someone who I've NEVER heard a kind word about. I don't have enough firsthand experience with her stuff to say conclusively, though what I've read has been pretty much much dreck.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm also going to mention Tim Perlich here, not because I think he's all that bad, but just to shake him up if he's ever doing a websearch on his own name. Most of the time I enjoy his stuff a- okay, and he picks a lot of great records for his best-ofs, but he also does this sour grapes cursory-listen-then-dismissal thing often enough to bug me.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Taylor Parkes is awful. Neil Kulkarni makes me want to tear my eyes out. In fact most of the writing in MM was truly terrible. The NME isn't that much better (Dele Fadele, Steve Sutherland, ugh ugh ugh), although it was always much nicer to look at.

The NME does have a couple of rather entertaining journos - I've always got a soft spot for Victoria Segal's reviews. Plus I could always pick a Johnny Cigarettes piece in the first two lines. Whatever happened to Mr. Cigarettes?

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As an aside, why exactly does Alan McGee have a problem with Ted Kessler? It can't just be because he inflicted Terris on the world.

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

miranda sawyer has to be a contender, but steven wells is pretty poor too

gareth, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

as a novelist swells has surely ^arrived^ - 'tits out teenage terror totty' is in our local library - how many times has it been taken out - guess ?

...............then think lower

, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Johnny Cigarettes writes for Loaded or something now. I think.

Ronan, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Paul Mathur isn’t the worst music journalist to go into print, but I’m still puzzled how he went from writing prescient pieces on Mantronix, Acid House, Techno in the ‘80s, to vapid celebrations of Oasis, The Bluetones and Cast in the ‘90s. The once mighty Stud Brothers seemed to follow a similar reverse trajectory..

stevo, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Competition: Guess who wrote this dreary end of 1991 piece:

At Christmas, record buying is at its height while records are at their worst. The top thirty is glutted with fortysomething family faves and re-releases, the album charts bloated with 'best ofs'. It's the least reliable of times to monitor the zeitgeist. But the presence of Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit in the singles chart is an indicator of what was really going on this year and a harbinger of what's to come in '92. The fact that Nirvana's untamed, raging punk anthem could get to number seven, while its equally hardcore parent album Nevermind was recently the fourth-best selling album in America, signals a sea change in rock that's been brewing all year: the resurgence of alternative music.

Perhaps the three-month-long annexation of the Number One slot by Bryan Adams's Everything I Do was the last gasp of mainstream pop, of songs that milkmen can whistle. For all year, the charts have been ravaged by an onslaught of hardcore techno and acid house tracks, endlessly spewed out by rave culture, while noisy indie groups have been nibbling away at the edges of the Top Thirty. There were hits for groups like Curve, Ride, Blur, Pixies, Manic Street Preachers, and near-misses of Primal Scream, Chapterhouse, Slowdive, Teenage Fanclub, Lush, St Etienne and more.

1991 was also the year that REM, long-time rulers of college rock, finally crossed over. Their single, Losing My religion and album Out Of Time went top five in America. Thrash metal pioneers Metallica's eponymous album went straight in at Number One on both sides of the Atlantic. In the USA, the mobile rock festival Lollapalooza brought the disparate alternative audience to consciousness of its latent power. A bill of top alternative bands (Nine Inch Nails, Siouxsie, Living Colour, Butthole Surfers, headlined by Jane's addiction (the festival's instigator), drew a combined audience of over half a million kids at 26 shows across America. After its success there are plans for future Lollapaloozas, including a European version.

As underground music has gone overground, there's also been a subliminal pressure on mainstream artists to quit playing safe. Both Prince and Michael Jackson's new albums were recorded with one ear cocked to the harder dance sounds coming out of club culture, and incorporating elements from rap, house and swingbeat with debatable success. U2's Achtung Baby is harder and more experimental than any of their previous albums: according to producer Brian Eno the group were listening to indie avan t-gardists like My Bloody Valentine and The Young Gods while they were recording. David Bowie's Tin Machine is a (sorry) attempt to cop some of the abrasiveness of groups like Pixies and Sonic Youth. After the longest period of mainstream blandness in living memory (a sort of never-ending 1975) it seems that the goalposts have shifted.

All this is coming to a head as support swells within the record industry for the introduction of a chart for alternative music. The problem with the current indie chart is that because the criteria is whether a record is independently distributed it includes a lot of patently non-alternative acts (like Kylie Minogue). The proposed alternative chart would be determined according to genre, not means of distribution, and would include both indie groups and indie-sounding groups who happen to be signed to major labels. The biggest support for an alternative chart comes from major labels, keen to get more visibility for their alternative acts - who don't figure in the indie charts despite their popularity amongst indie consumers, but equally don't sell enough to impact on the pop chart. Many independent labels, however, feel they wouldn't be able to compete with the majors' marketing and distribution muscle, and are afraid their releases would get lower placings in the new chart, or be shunted into oblivion. Worried that they'll lose their only outlet to the public, these labels would prefer to keep the indie chart, despite all its flaws and anomolies.

The real problem with a genre-based chart would be defining 'alternative', a nebulous term at the best of times. This would be the responsibility of a body called Entertainment Research And Analysis, whose musicologists would admit records into the alternative chart when they felt it was appropriate. But there are many grey areas that defy easy codification. What would be the status of acts who are alternative in style, but long-established chart regulars (The Cure, Depeche Mode, Siouxsie, etc)? Would the alternative chart include the techno and house tracks released by indie labels that currently figure heavily in the indie chart? If it excluded these records as dance, how would it deal with indie bands who fused hi-tech dance with rock. The 'one instinctively knows what is alternative' approach depends ultimately on the cabal of experts being hip to the ever-shifting definitions and distractions of the volatile alternative scene.

Despite these quandries, there's a body of opinion that feels that an alternative chart can only give marginal music greater visibility. According to Adrian Wistreich (chairman of the Chart Supervisory Committee, which is currently debating the issue), an alternative chart would be far easier to sell to the media than the current indie chart. Probable licensers of an alternative chart include ITV's The Chart Show, and Radio One's evening slot with Mark Goodier. 'An alternative chart would be a punters' chart, reflecting taste. The current chart is an industry chart. Whether a record is owned by a major or an indie is irrelevant to most fans of this kind of music.'

The future of the British chart system looks set to follow the American model: there will always be a core, Top Of The Pops chart of all the best-selling records in every field, but there will also be more prominence for genre charts that pinpoint particular taste markets (alternative, dance, metal). The only worry is that the new alternative chart will mostly benefit the major labels, while further marginalising the maverick indies (who have traditionally taken risks and acted as unpaid talent scouts for the major labels).

Either way, the fact that there's such strong support for an alternative chart indicates that the major labels reckon there's money in more challenging music. The breakthrough of groups like REM, Nirvana, Jane's Addiction and Metallica suggests they're right. 1992 could be the year that the pop mainstream disappears, under the twin assault of hardcore techno dance and alternative rock.

Prize is a poke in the ribs.

N., Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Despite CTCL being a tremendous disappointment, I don't know the history of Ev True being 'faux Yank' or whatever - I still think he can be a great writer sometimes. Swells when funny is also GRATE! As 'pop journalism' it's the best, as academic criticism it um, isn't. But then again too much ACADEMIA in pop writing is a BADDIE and I AM VERSUS! IT! YES!

Miranda Sawyer is however, poop. THE BESTEST, above everyone that j00 have mentioned is the person who writes the PITCHER CAPTIONS in Smash Hits. Arf!

Sarah, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ans: it wasn't me

mark s, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Aw. I miss "ITV's The Chart Show".

Sarah, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Michael Azerrad, bless his *sole(s)* but he can be somewhat of a WISE-ASH.
Greil Marcus. Pompous academic. Where is the PASSION?
Used to loathe anything written by Wire (but I still read it cuz I am masochist).

helenfordsdale, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'Time Out'. Everybody who writes for their music section should be killed. (If that includes anybody on this board, for shame.) Boring philistinism (10,000 variations on "Where are the tunes?" every week) x middle-class white guilt x five-year-olds with Tourette's. I hope to fuck this hamster-cage lining doesn't have any actual influence in the capital.

dave q, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think it's time the Brazen Hussies covered 'Leave the Capitol'. EXIT THIS ROMAN SHELL.

Re: competition. mark s is right but can anyone be any righter?

N., Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nick: cover of "leave the capitol" will be b-side to "I hope to fuck this hamster"

mark s, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I might mention Peter Robinson. At least, I think this Mis- Teeq review is ARSE. But then again he is NME writer = he is a manboob.

Sarah, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Peter Robinson did Popjustice which was great.

Tom, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Reynolds?

Dr. C, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Was that Lamacq, Nick?

Nicole, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It was good for a while Tom then it went downhill. Much better when it was STEPSFILES (was that the name, I can't remember, arses). Hmmm well that Mis-Teeq thing seems a bit suss, something that I might write but not be sure about and pick to pieces immediately.

Sarah, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Suspect it is Reynolds, though writing for a more mainstream orientated public than his usual readership. I don't recall him getting so worked up about the 'alternative charts', though.

stevo, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It was indeed Reynolds (in the Guardian). I'll poke you when I get the chance, Dr. C.

N., Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I beg your pardon, young man!

Dr. C, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hampster!

Whoops, I hope my syntactical nightmare doesn't make people think I'm hot for Sophie Ellis-Bextor

dave q, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What is Dave Q on about?

N., Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Um, everyone here keeps forgetting the one really obvious answer...
Albert Goldman. An insecure, joyless asshole man who spent his entire career pissing vinegar onto the graves of any musician that the average music-lover had the audacity to like.
If you don't believe me, re-read his character assass--...er...biographies on Elvis or John Lennon. Except for Lennons Anorexia, he hadn't reported anything astute, believable or true since he started. Or if you want to hear him insult the entire idea of music all at once. Hold your nose and read a couple of pages from "Freakshow".

Lord Custos, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Though it's mediocre by his standards, that Reynolds piece *does* capture the mood of the time pretty well in that the 80s pop consensus broke up at that precise moment (Dire Straits' comeback album flopping, Simple Minds fading, the pathetic rap break he alludes to on MJ's "Black Or White"). I've got a feeling the campaign for an "alternative" chart rather than an anything-on-indie- labels chart was more an NME than an MM thing.

Oh, and good call to Stevo on Paul Mathur, who by 1995 had possibly the worst taste on Melody Maker. Sadly I'm too young to remember him being as good as you mention.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wow: and I thought this geezer must have misconstrued you!

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 July 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

well i think he wz kind of missing the point of the piece — an english-irish band can after all play with ideas of englishness w/o being pureblood themselves — but i haven't got very much to go on re his actual criticism, plus i'm aware the piece wasn't so great in the first place

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 17 July 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Not really a music journalist, but Julie Burchill usually makes me piss myself laughing with her unintentionally funny music articles.

And anyone who works at NME, obviously.

russ t, Thursday, 17 July 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

*raises hand*

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 17 July 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Julie BurchillNot really a music journalist

give or take a decade or so of music journalism behind her... hse is pretty bad though...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 17 July 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

funny to see the hate poured on hilburn and powers, not so funny to have one replace the other : (

gershy, Monday, 3 September 2007 01:59 (eighteen years ago)

oh wow look at sterling going at juzwiak! how strange.

(so long ago, though)

r|t|c, Monday, 3 September 2007 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://www.fuse.tv/contributors/david-shapiro

buzza, Monday, 16 April 2012 04:18 (fourteen years ago)

not clicking on that but i am glad this is now the thread for updates on this guy

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 16 April 2012 09:26 (fourteen years ago)

i don't think david shapiro would claim to be a "Pop Journalist"

caulk the wagon and float it, Monday, 16 April 2012 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

Just read the new shindig's article on Strawberry Alarm Clock and have just been rereminded why I can't stand that writer. There is just way too much self-regarding noise in the piece.
Tend to find that any time I bother reading that guy. Used to annoy me that he'd get given items I wanted to find out about to review in various psych mags and I'd just be reminded that the guy was in love with himself instead of finding out about the product.

Stevolende, Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

Thank me very much oh wait.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

what an odd thread to read over a decade (!) on

lex pretend, Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)


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