Motley Crue: Klassik or Dude!

Of course, the band's opinion should count for something, but I think they are just sort of embarrassed by it because it was very pop and pop isn't cool. Plus they were dressing like women and that's not cool, either.

Mick Mars said that the song structure on Theatre of Pain was lacking and that it was repetitive. He also said besides the two singles (Smokin' In The Boys Room, Home Sweet Home) the album wasn't good and the sole saving grace was Home Sweet Home. He's wrong! Both Girls, Girls, Girls and Dr. Feelgood were more repetitive and had worse structure in my opinion. The songs grew longer and more boring. Also, the two singles off Theatre of Pain were probably the worst songs on the album, although the entire album is flawless, in my opinion.

Theatre of Pain, for me, was the climax of the band. It's not as raw sounding as the first two, but the guitar tones are really diverse and mature. The album seems to have some depth and a cool ominous vibe throughout. It has an old early ZZ Top feel, which is a far cry from Too Fast For Love, but a much more textured and developed evolution of the same "beast."

This is a weird comparison, but Theatre of Pain is very much like Camper Van Beethoven's Key Lime Pie. (Surprise!) Key Lime Pie is obviously unique, even compared to the rest of the band's material, but it is still a very cool album even if it doesn't fit in anywhere. The production of those two albums is also very similar and all the songs are slower, so that might be where the comparison is coming from, too. If you listen to both albums back-to-back, I think you'll hear the similarities.

After Theatre of Pain it seems like they just went backwards or stood still. Dr. Feelgood is cool and all, but it reminds me of Bon Jovi for crying out loud. And the lyrics are cornier than ever. Fast boogie-butt music without the wicked edge of the first two albums.

Oh no he didn't. I mean, granted, there are slim pickens in terms of good 80's metal vocalists, but Vince is not a great one by ANY standard. I'd sooner cite David Lee Roth (if he could be included amongst lesser bands). Hell, even Stephen Pearcy (sp?) from Ratt had a more distinctive voice.

Raven of Killing Joke has recently become a pal of Nikki Sixx's, and cryptically alleged recently that much of Vince's vocals were...ahem..."enhanced" with the vocals of none other than Robin Zander of Cheap Trick (i.e. that's often not Vince doin' the singing). Make of that what you will.

Which is odder, though? Your boyfriend's cock smelling like another woman....or your boyfriend's cock smelling like mexican food????

They're both one dimensional and neither can really sing. Both would have made Motley Crue sound quite bad. Stephen Pearcy sucked and got old real fast.

They're both one dimensional and neither can really sing. Both would have made Motley Crue sound quite bad. Stephen Pearcy, especially, sucked and got old real fast. Also, I think you took the crytically alleged comment far too seriously about Robin Zander.

Yes, Vince Neil is better than Roth. Roth sings monotone. Most of Van Halen is unlistenable and his solo stuff just as bad. He always sounded like an old man and not even a rockin' old man! The bozzeebozzeebopzitteeboop routine was very fitting. Besides Van Halen I, all of that stuff is the most overrated metal perhaps ever. I hate Eddie's solos!

"pavement-cracking". I like that.

Hell, I snagged the remastered edition of the album out of the discount bin a few days ago just for the first 30 seconds of the title track.

(And I don't mean that "T'n'T" track, either.)

A fair and valid point, but he wasn't always that bad. Well, actually, yes he was, but circa Fair Warning the rest of the band kept it in check.

*spews coffee and bursts into laughter*

How would he really have nailed that kid's ear to the table? Without help, I'd imagine it's physically impossible to restrain someone while holding and hammering a nail.

Theatre of Pain... Since Nikki flat-out stole his name and they rehashed Mick's old Mottley Croo idea, did they steal this from Christian Death's "Only Theatre of Pain" too or is it a classic phrase? I assume it is just another thing Nikki "appropriated."

On the way to work this evening, I dialed up "Primal Scream" by the Crue (from Decade of Decadence) and damn is that ever a fine song.

Brain fart. Unfinished thought....the point i was making is that Lydia Lunch's own memoir features parallel tales of lurid behavior and drug abuse (and lots of degrading sex) along with the obligatory brush with the paranormal. Seek it out.

Hard to know how much of it to believe.

How old is Mick anyway? They keep playing it up as if he is 15 years older than the other guys.

I bought the VHS video Motley Crue: UNCENSORED for $3.00 online right after I read Dirt and, guess what? The video was taped is during the Theatre of Pain album and they all look very healthy for junkies and alcoholics. They are not fat or skinny. They have chest and arm muscles that indicate weight-lifting is going on. They also are very sober acting and energetic. If anything, they seem like they are just beginning to party a little bit.

Also, on the video the story is that they were recording and someone came in the studio and said, "Well, isn't this a motley lookin' crew?" And that is how they got their name according to this video.

Mick Mars says "Theatre of Pain" is favorite album they've made and he sounds very enthusiastic about it.

This video is very Monkees-ish and if they were really as fucked up as they claim in Dirt, I really don't think making a video like this would've been possible. Imagine old Royal Trux trying to cheer up, get in shape, run around and act in front of a bunch of cameras.

Some of it is definitely true, like the musical influences and stuff, but I think they're just lightweights in the drugs and alcohol department so they imagine it worse than it was. Besides, if they were really that fucked up, they wouldn't have such great memories. I can barely remember college and there's no way I could detail it the way they've detailed their past 20 years.

Something else really weird about the video is when they get to Mick's place he has something like 20 gold records on the wall. How is that possible?

when I went punk in eighth grade, 1993.

first Crue album is great, it's got a little engine that could charm to it and the most poppy

xpost veronica moser i too love Motley Crue + Kiss :D

BIG MAC! ONE OH THREE!

I've played Shout at the Devil so many times over the past 43 years (coincidentally I was cranking Too Young to Fall in Love an hour ago), that I'd be lying to myself if I said it wasn't one of my top five or ten albums of all time. For a very specific subset of us (weirdo white 13 year-olds in 1983-84) it's THE gateway album. It's in our blood.

Too Fast For Love is the one for me. “On With The Show” specifically.

I really it’s brittle, tinny sound. It feels hungrier, more desperate.
And I like the Leathur Records version even better because there’s no chipmunk sped-up Vince vocals

I really like*

i learned a while back they did a show in ~Grass Valley~ because the management company they signed with was from there

*Grass Valley is about an hour+ out of Sacramento in the deep foothills , very small quaint mining town, very rural, middle of nowhere

and i guess they hitchhiked from LA to Grass Valley to play the show. So crazy.
Imagine picking up those street rats on the freeway

one of my favorite L.A. moments was coming across Tommy Lee's post on NextDoor complaining about kids riding ebikes in the middle of the road in his gated community, real sincere concern for their safety and anger at parents for allowing them to do it.

lol!

I went into it knowing that The Dirt was going to be bad, but Lord.

Been awhile since I've seen a movie where I had to turn away during multiple scenes.

The wigs ain’t even the half of it

It did cover everything — cocaine, tits, car crashes, piss, heroin, the dead body of a 4-year-old girl, fistfights, cunnilingus, fellatio and lemon shots.

(I did chuckle at "The Fall Guy — I love that show!")