Phil Spector: Murderer!

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I heard that Spector sued Ribowsky, the author, and that subsequent editions were expurgated. There's surprisingly little dirt out there about Spector, and you have a lot of people who have made statements and retracted them. I'm wondering if we'll find a lot more out now that he's vulnerable.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)

To clarify, I'm saying I think the publicity attending celebrity show trials is a disservice to everyone.

bflaska, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I've read "He's a Rebel" - great book, seemed like there was plenty of "dirt" in it. My bet on the outcome: Phil offs himself. It's a family tradition, after all.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

You know, that's not really funny.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 19:52 (twenty-three years ago)

That wasn't a joke. Children of suicides are prone to suicide themselves, this is well-established.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 20:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I am all too aware of this fact. You stated it glibly, as a punchline, is all.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 20:12 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry, don't have much pity for Phil at this point, saw no need to pull any punches...

Gris Gris Pinball, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 20:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Has anyone heard the December 2002 release by the Spectors, called "Beat is Murder"?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:21 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/02/05/1044318667702.html

Phil's last interview?

whether it is or not, it's an illuminating read:

"For years he did nothing. He was incapable of action. Paralysed. Projects came and went, unfulfilled. What could possibly interest him? Disco? "Terrible." Michael Jackson? "The most depressing, heinous thing. I mean, starting out life as a black man and ending up as a white woman, what's that all about?" Rap music? "Like the c got left off at the printers." Spector falls back on the sofa. "It's all been done! It's all been done!"

what's wrong with my HTML tags? they're ok i promise! (Charlie), Thursday, 6 February 2003 02:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Rap music? "Like the c got left off at the printers."

No, see, it's right there after the "i"!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 6 February 2003 02:42 (twenty-three years ago)

that's too bad. it seems he wouldn't really appreciate what i did with some Ronettes samples.

Honda (Honda), Thursday, 6 February 2003 02:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Phil Spector: Murderer?

(Getting out the rope)

Yes.

Kenan Hebert, Thursday, 6 February 2003 05:47 (twenty-three years ago)

five months pass...
This unscripted ending is a recent follow up. Still awful.

bflaska, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw Lana Clarkson's memorial in the Hollywood Forever cemetary a month or so ago...all kinds of larger-than-life size blowups of her press photo, etc. 'n I was like "whoa"

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 03:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Totally trumped up! It was Brando's kid! He's a one-man Hollywood hit squad!!

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...
hoo boy

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/02/08/specter.trial.ap/index.html

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

"This is a trial of public interest," said Superior Court Judge Larry Paul Fidler. "I always have a problem with commentators telling people what is going on rather than letting the public see the trial for themselves. I'm a firm believer in having the public see it. And I wanna be on TEEVEE!@!!!1111!@@2!!!"

BTW, Back To Mono is going for $17 new on Amazon. Already got mine last month.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

<i>BTW, Back To Mono is going for $17 new on Amazon. </i>

wtf? have sales plummeted since his arrest? do they not want to appear to be capitalizing on his notoriety? i paid $75 for that sucker back in the 1990s!!

amateurist, Saturday, 26 May 2007 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

Record stores are flooded with copies.
I suspect the good ol boys at Abkco are trying to silently show their support.

sexyDancer, Saturday, 26 May 2007 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Latest: homwhatcide?

http://i19.tinypic.com/67z4m78.jpg

StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:26 (nineteen years ago)

is he saying she murdered herself?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

no, murder.

here he is, showing how she was shot by a hand:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42985000/jpg/_42985349_pena_ap203b.jpg

StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

are you saying she was a homo?

StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

homo = self so yeah everyone is.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:34 (nineteen years ago)

oh.

Ban Lara Clarkson! Killing herself like that, tss.

StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

(homo = human, auto = self, imho, but that doesn't matter now)

StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

homos = same

Just got offed, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

cide?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

probably gang related. eascide, wescide.

StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

homo + caedo (perf. = cecidi) = homicide (man + slaughter)

homos + sexus = homosexual (same + sex)

the latter is a bastardisation of a greek prefix and a latin suffix, the former is entirely latin

Just got offed, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

oh noes, sonned in an internet greek/latin beef :-(

StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

POSSESSUS

Just got offed, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

Hang on a minute, I'm getting confused here - is Spector being accused of shooting Westlife now? Surely he should get the keys to the city!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/hamburgramnes

(Hamburg Ramönes - album: Free Phil Spector)

StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

Give me strength!

I mean, they might actually be good! But, hey let's free the guy OK so he might have killed someone but hey it's the famous/genius Phil Spector!!!

What next, the Hamburg Mike Leanders?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's time he came up with something new, why not let him ponder Wall Of Jail for a while?

StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

Don't know them, but they can't be any worse than Starsailor.

Mike Leander never killed anyone.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

No but then the "Hamburg Mike Leanders" new album being "Free Gary Glitter" etc...

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

Does this mean that Dale will stop playing My Sweet Lord, Imagine, Unchained Melody etc. whenever they come up on POTP?

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

bump before andi's head explodes

marmotwolof, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:35 (eighteen years ago)

Kaboom?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:35 (eighteen years ago)

haha I take it you locked it. So what's the latest? I don't watch cable news or anything.

marmotwolof, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:37 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure myself. Something about contempt of court against one of the lawyers.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:38 (eighteen years ago)

i was completely kidding around in that other thread. i'm surprised that got locked. sorry, i guess?

andi, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)

i was serious in my second post of it, though.

andi, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:51 (eighteen years ago)

his ex-lawyer didn't want to testify against him. she didn't say a word. she's been held in contempt, now.

andi, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:51 (eighteen years ago)

bruce cutler's soul past through me, that's all i can say.

andi, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

A bit off track, but "Tearing Down the Wall of Sound" is a totally addictive read. The interviews between the author and Spector took place a mere six weeks before "the incident".

darin, Thursday, 21 June 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

UH:

The week’s most dubious highlight came when the defense played Lana Unleashed, Clarkson’s portfolio video designed to showcase her comedic talents. Prosecutors Alan Jackson and Pat Dixon begged Fidler to block the screening but the judge ignored their pleas. The video quickly made clear why Clarkson did not have her own Comedy Central show. Her self-written sketches, intended to demonstrate Clarkson’s range of characterizations and dialects, appeared desperately unfunny on the courtroom screen. She was dying up there — all over again.

It also became obvious why Spector’s lawyers fought to have the video shown. In one segment Clarkson performs a black-face impersonation of singer Little Richard selling a line of African-American cosmetics on TV. The sketch was nothing more than a coon show and seemed to drag on for hours as reporters kept an eye on the jury’s three black members, who watched with frozen expressions. (“Little Richard’s” cosmetic kit — called “Makeup Kit for Dummies” — included minibar bottles of liquor and plastic pieces of a black man’s face.)

Obviously this doesn't excuse Spector in the slightest but Jesus H.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 August 2007 00:29 (eighteen years ago)

Court TV has the video.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 August 2007 00:31 (eighteen years ago)

Bring on Cameron Crowe's in-development Phil Spector movie! Daddy wants the Wall of Sound depicted.

Cunga, Friday, 22 March 2013 05:37 (thirteen years ago)

just saw this. what a terrible disappointment.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 03:10 (thirteen years ago)

i remember reading something a long time ago about how cameron crowe's spector movie was running into problems because they 'couldn't figure out how to end it.' this was pre-2003.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 05:53 (thirteen years ago)

Mamet is insane, film at 11.

One ILM poster friend of mine has noted previously that Mamet has an uncommon talent for finding ways to justify women getting slapped around in his movies/plays.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

"Mamet, the writer, has publicly stated that he feels Phil Spector is innocent and should not be in prison," says spokesman Ed Lozzi. "We fear that he will rewrite history and portray Lana Clarkson as responsible for her own death. That is not acceptable, and if he does so, there will be consequences from us."

What, are you going to shoot him then?

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

They're going to send him the 3LP box concept album by Godley & Creme.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Some things are worth killing for.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

One ILM poster friend of mine has noted previously that Mamet has an uncommon talent for finding ways to justify women getting slapped around in his movies/plays.

Nah, that's not true, but he does have a good half-dozen scripts with false rape accusations, and this story is a variation on that.

That said, I liked it. Lots of Pacino time.

munching of foods in my ears etc etc (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 06:53 (thirteen years ago)

/One ILM poster friend of mine has noted previously that Mamet has an uncommon talent for finding ways to justify women getting slapped around in his movies/plays./

Nah, that's not true, but he does have a good half-dozen scripts with false rape accusations, and this story is a variation on that..

Really? Two that come to mind off the top of my head:

The Verdict -- Charlotte Rampling gets "justifiably" slapped in a restaurant.

Oleana -- Bill Macy beats the crap out of the woman who falsely accuses him of rape.

Pretty sure there are others...

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

July 2013

http://i61.tinypic.com/hss4d0.jpg

StanM, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:49 (eleven years ago)

four years pass...
seven years pass...

TIL that Lana Clarkson was the Video Vixen in the clip for "Ah! Leah!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 May 2026 18:01 (three weeks ago)

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Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 May 2026 18:22 (three weeks ago)


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