New Autechre album - April 2005

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We agree on the Peelies, Barry! (Except that PS2 bores.)

Back when Warp's msg board was up, Chiastic seemed the overwhelming favorite, and, I think, on a.m.autechre as well.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link

LP5 has that one track that sounds like samples of an aluminum can tab being flicked. I think that was their peak album in a way.

eman (eman), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Chiastic Slide has held up beautifully; I listened to it just the other day. A perfect record, just so well paced and well designed.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link

We agree on the Peelies, Barry! (Except that PS2 bores.)

I'm not too big on PS2 either.

I was under the impression that "Tri Repetae" has been considered their best for years. If opinions are shifting toward "Chiastic Slide" then I couldn't be happier.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd actually love to see them keep the direction they took on that split with the hafler trio.

p.s. fuck all you 'more melody' whiners.

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

chiastic slide is their best with confield coming in a very, very close second imo

t0dd swiss, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

ep7 is underrated on this thread. ep7 > chiastic slide

rssgnl, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope it's all like 4x4 house shit!

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

or even better, trance.

bass braille (....), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm happy to see all the Confield > Draft 7.30 opinions.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Confield and Draft 7.30 are two different pies altogether. Can't be compared IMO. That said, I can more easily chill out listening to Draft - Confield requires more of my undivided attention.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I just never really enjoyed listening to Draft. Confield is abstract, sure, but it always sucked me in.

I agree with the Chiastic lovers, it's amazing. Cichli is genius.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Where was all this "Chiastic Slide" love during the 90's poll?

(I was thinking about nominating it, but other Ae albums were already nominated. There were so many props for "Tri Repetae" and "LP5" floating around, and I think I may have been the only one to comment about the "Chiastic Slide" injustice on those threads.)

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, I just checked that thread and "Chiastic Slide" was never mentioned except in a backhanded way by me, when I chewed out the general populace for favouring Boards of Canada >>>>> Ae, Aphex, and everything else on Warp. But TriRep made the top 100 and LP5 nearly did, and I wasn't shocked about that because that was in line with what I believe is the general opinion about their best records.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link

But, fuck dude, BoC is something above and beyond almost anything ever.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I knew you'd say that! (it was my own fault for laying down the bait, however)

I just reviewed some older threads about Autechre ... it's mostly the same handful of people giving props to the same albums (i.e. opinions haven't changed much over the years). "Chiastic Slide" gets respect from this core group, but very little from "ILM at large". Sure, that's a fairly small sample, but that does fit with my perceptions about Autechre over the last ten years.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link

On Chiastic, "Calbruc" = underrated. The last remotely dancey tune they've released.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I always was amazed by that 3-star rating Chiastic Slide got on AMG (followed by this comment in the LP5 review: "1997's Chiastic Slide wasn't considered a true follow-up by the band". I can't remember ever reading this at the time.)

My favourite Ae sort of changes from day tot day between Amber - Tri - Chiastic. Today I'm in a Chiastic mood.

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 08:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Bottom line: I hope and they move in a new direction, as they've done with every release so far (someone above said Draft was a step backwards - well even going backwards is a new direction, the first time you do it).

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Chiastic Slide is great because it has Cichli on it and that's worth it for the tag price alone. I think the album peters out towards the end though.

Tri Repetae was nice - a very different vibe to any of the other albums in that it had comparatively linear beats and stuff. Definitely not my favourite though.

I'm going to put on Amber again in a mo as I've neglected it for ages.

LP5 is truly gorgeous - melodic, rhythmic, inventive all at the same time. I was never a big fan of the first two tracks which just sound like erratic drill'n'bass rip offs but the rest is so so good!

EP7 is really really good too. Kind of an extension of LP5, the second half is particularly great. Maphive6.1 invoking the sound of battling hoardes and then something that sounds like a cross between a piano and guitar comes in.

Confield? I really don't know. It's my least favourite. Some of the sounds are just too harsh for me to accept. The bass drum beats on Cfern are genuinely horrible and sound like a four year old hitting a touch sensitive keyboard at random. When this came out everyone was saying the stand out tracks were "Pen Expers" and "Eidetic Casein" - the former sounding like someone hoovering up iron nails, and the latter like a bunch of toy keyrings all going off at the same time. I only really like the ambient "Uviol" on this one.

Draft7.30 is actually a really clever album. I always felt that with Confield there was no reference at all - it was just alien music, whereas you could really hear Autechre's influences on this record, so much so I once layered Funkadelic's "Who says funk bands can't play rock?" over VProc. There's a big old-skool influence on this too.
The first track sounds like a giant Dune worm pounding along the ground, and the second track makes me think of being on a creepy old pirate ship. Maybe my third or fourth favourite album of theirs.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i can unequivocally say that i rate everything they've done.

one of my favorite things about the chiastic period is that they released two great singles off the album. i don't think that's happpened since.

it's tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Chiastic is indeed underrated. I initially stayed away from it due to all the reviews/word of mouth, but found it in the used bin and was delighted by it (as much as one can be "delighted" by Autechre.)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

And I still can't help from saying "Oughta-Ker" instead of "Aw-Tek-Rah"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm sure it's been said befrore but it took me a while to realise "Cichlisuite" should be pronounced "sickly-sweet", and it is one of their sweetest sounding releases. i like that track "Krib" that sounds like it's all samples from an aerosol can.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

chiastic got bad reviews when it came out? how weird (or stupid actually).

i would love if they dropped some 4/4 or trance on us. could you imagine the melodic build ups? holy fuck.

it's tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Well there's this remix they did of Various Artists and that's basically banging 4/4 IIRC, it's on Tobias Thomas Fur Dich mixcd. Every time I hear it I can't believe it's them.

Can't remember any bad reviews of Chiastic Slide.

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

they did a 4/4 track for the warp 10+3 remixes compilation, too. let's say it's not their best work.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

>i would love if they dropped some 4/4 or trance on us.

try 'slow acid' from the Gescom ISS:SA ep... came out two years ago but the pieces date from LP5/EP7 era.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

ooh thanks, milton.

i play around with "we r are why" a lot when i am mixing - it's one of the few 4/4-ish tracks i know by them.

i have that warp remix comp, but can't recall the track vahid mentions. must investigate...

it's tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

i think i have that tobias thomas mix around somewhere, too. that track must be from the sub rosa vs. kompakt days.

it's tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

my favourites are definitely confield, ep7 and chiastic slide; i never got into draft 7:30, although i remember there being one track with good stereo stuff going on. i'm going to give it another go now, actually; i'm not sure i ever heard anything apart from mp3s ripped from the promo cassette. do warp still do promos on cassettes, btw?

gantz graf was the one i really didn't get - i think i gave it one or maybe two listens before writing it off. i should probably reinvestigate that, too.

i too hope for something new, not necessarily a change of direction but something... unexpected, i guess.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

It's now leaked. It's kinda dark sounding, almost like an industrial album at times sorta, and some of it sounds like you could conceivably dance to it. But I've just given brief listens to the tracks.

Vic Funk, Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

yikes, what's it called? Are you on slsk right now?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

It's kinda dark sounding, almost like an industrial album at times sorta

OH DARN.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

what's it called?

firstworldman (firstworldman), Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Whats your slsk name?!

Rizz (Rizz), Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

gantz graf was the one i really didn't get - i think i gave it one or maybe two listens before writing it off. i should probably reinvestigate that, too.

Gantz Graf is useless until you see the VIDEO!!! OMG! It's like a virtual lift from my head whenever I hear Autechre's music. I just wish someone could use the same engine for say, the whole of EP7!!

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2005 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link

downloading

Rizz (Rizz), Monday, 14 February 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

i would love if they dropped some 4/4 or trance on us. could you imagine the melodic build ups? holy fuck.

yeah remember misery where kathy bates has the author dude trapped and forces him to write a book the way she wants? i would totally do that for an autechre progressive trance 12". sean and rob! oh sweeties! i'm comin for you!

Lukas (lukas), Monday, 14 February 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently it's titled Untilted, not Untitled. Sez so on Warp. I think the magic 8 is in the number of letters. I can get this off of indietorrents.

Btw, the "Gantz Graf" video was useless to me. OOH CGI.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 14 February 2005 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Hah, that was fast. I'm plechazunga on s1sk.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 14 February 2005 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

where is the magic # in confield and chiastic slide??

vahid (vahid), Monday, 14 February 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

My head's been so far up Incunubula's ass for the past six months, I forgot about this side of Autechre: the rusting ball bearings banging around in a sluice of valve oil and sulphur. That's how I got on the Au-train in the first place, so this whole ten-year track was running a circle?

Luckily ULVER"s Silencing the Singing is great for melodic build-ups. I'll stay there for the rest of tonight.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 14 February 2005 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Confield - "VI Scose Poise"

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 14 February 2005 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Chiastic Slide - "chiastic" relates to a cross or four-pointed shape.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I am an Autechre-titles geek and once wrote a massive list of theoretical explanations for titles etc including an idea about ep7 being a concept album about security and surveillance.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:29 (nineteen years ago) link

What was your take on LP5 then, lots of air travel references - UnderBOAC, 777, Arch Carrier...

ledge (ledge), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeh! Never got that reference! I thought 777 related to the time signature being 7/7 or something.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

So is anyone here not gonna d/l the leak? I kind of want to wait for the offical release, and besides, it *might* be fake.

Course if I do wait I'll have to stop reading this thread, don't want my judgement coloured before I've heard it.

ledge (ledge), Monday, 14 February 2005 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link

this is most definitely NOT a fake.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 14 February 2005 12:21 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah NYC was pitch black as well. it also boasted the highest male-to-female ratio i've ever seen at a show. -- rajeev
haha you obviously weren't at the squarepusher show in boston - I was shocked.
I have to admit, this definitely puts me off going to some shows if Im not feeling particularly motivated to begin with. I skipped the ae nyc & boston shows cos Im not really feelin the new one enough to justify the drive & $$
anyway yeah, I don't know why there is such poor female attendance at these kind of shows. I can't think of a single good reason for it.

vanessa novaeris (novaeris), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Did you ever find out who the openers were? #2 was pretty damn good.

According to the schedule on Warp's website, SND are playing all dates on the tour incl. Canada.

I saw SND a couple of years ago and they were similarly awesome. I have no idea why their records are so boring in comparison to their live sets.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 13 May 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Got 'Untilted' prior to seeing them live this weekend, it's alright maybe it will grow on me more (only 2 full listens). I like the first three tracks best, they seem to have a really propulsive broken-groove about them, but without just banging the point home. After those it seems to slip into business as usual, not a huge amount of variation. 'The Trees' seemed to stand out more this time.

But, it does seem to be all about the 'craft' and little else here to me. Doesn't feel like a significant advance in sound compared to the records I know by them (Tri Repetae, Chiastic Slide, LP5) but I do love how smudgy, oily and dark it all feels, it's a very 'live' sounding record. Sublimit' is a bit of an anticlimactic closing track compared to some of their other work though. Doesn't really surpass, or expand my expectations of them as a whole record.

fandango (fandango), Monday, 4 July 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Even at a very reasonable home-listening volume... Untilted is one bastard LOUD record, at least for the first three tracks. I think they might be worth the price I paid for this (cheap promo in card sleeve) alone.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
anybody going to see them in Camden (koko is it?) on september 17? i am tempted to make the journey down but not sure whether it will be worth the large train fare.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I am feeling too old for this. Doors at 11? C'mon! I need to be tucked up in bed with a mug of steaming Horlicks by 12 at the latest.

Plus getting home from Camden after tubes have finished = a bitch.

ledge (ledge), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Can someone convince me to get Untilted even though I already have Confield and Draft?

Leeeeeeee (Leee), Sunday, 21 August 2005 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

It's better than Draft and more enjoyable than Confield.

Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 21 August 2005 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link

it's okay. i must admit for a band i once thought were infallible i'm really starting to lose my patience with them.

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 21 August 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

unfortunately dog latin is also right.

Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
"clipper" c/d?

and what, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Can't remember, sing it and i'll tell ya...

Oh it's one of the first three off tri repetae, they're all solid gold; the exemplary tracks on an exemplary album.

Wonder what they're up to now.

ledge, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone know where i can find that webcast?

funny farm, Friday, 30 March 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link


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